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thetoughestbean posted:I don’t think they live in a capitalist society No, Eden and its students' families make it extremely clear that Ostsnia is capitalist. Consider Becky, for instance.
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The moment, the name cards were introduces for each character, I knew it was going to be a whodunitYtlaya posted:You'd think that Loid would notice that the killer appeared at the exact time and place Anya mentioned, lol. Though I guess "it's a weird coincidence" is still more logical than the reality.
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Darth Walrus posted:No, Eden and its students' families make it extremely clear that Ostsnia is capitalist. Consider Becky, for instance. Wealth predates capitalism and continues to exist in non-capitalist societies.
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Paracelsus posted:Wealth predates capitalism and continues to exist in non-capitalist societies. Nonetheless, some of the students are children of wealthy CEOs. That is a sign of capitalism in the economy. Though most modern are not purely capitalist or purely socialist per say.
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Flair posted:Nonetheless, some of the students are children of wealthy CEOs. That is a sign of capitalism in the economy. Though most modern are not purely capitalist or purely socialist per say. Corporate entities date back to at least Rome, and continued to exist under feudalism and mercantilism, but I'm not sure I would call those societies capitalist.
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Paracelsus posted:Corporate entities date back to at least Rome, and continued to exist under feudalism and mercantilism, but I'm not sure I would call those societies capitalist. That's fair (though there are no societal signs that Ostania has feudalism and mercantilism economy would not impose restrictions on its exports). What I am suggesting is that Ostania may ultimately be a mixed economy (like many modern societies), but having wealthy CEOs, politicians, high-ranking military officers, etc. are present in capitalism, socialist market, etc. (I just have a feeling that the signs point more towards a mixed economy that leans more towards capitalism.)
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While the rich and powerful obviously exist in socialist countries, the uh, aesthetic of the elite in Ostania doesn't really fit mid century eastern bloc socialism. Also it seems to have some form of democracy capable of peaceful regime change despite having secret police and poo poo. Ostania is weird and while it's obviously drawing from East Germany in some ways it's certainly not a parallel. Among other things there doesn't seem to be a superpower backing either Ostania or Westalis.
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I kind of view Ostania as being similar to late Tsarist Russia, actually- their secret police might look like the Stasi, but maybe they're actually like the Cheka? Also, I love the confirmation that Yor is turbo-horny for Loid to the point where even sleeping in the same room with separate beds is enough to get her to cool off in a blizzard- and that Master Spy™ Loid still can't pick up on it  I do wonder how the punny names were presented in Japanese, though.
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Yeah, it's weird. I assume the author didn't want every bigshot and potential villain to just be [party leadership director] and [reactionary general]. Ostania seems to have not just corporations, but CEOs, mergers, acquisitions, boardroom politics (as seen in the chapter in which Anya's classmate is mad that his father's company is being aggressively bought out). I don't rememver seeing any reference to a stocks trading, but I might have missed it.
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It's fruitless to try to map the politics 1:1 to West/East Germany, it's just a trapping/aesthetic and not really the point of the series. If you really wanted to highlight any substantive reason for the conflict you'd need to have at least some of the series set in Westalis, or at least describe the conflict in more specific terms than having the countries named after compass points. Honestly it just would make things even funnier if both countries were more or less culturally, economically, and politically identical and the entire basis of their split/rivalry/foreverwar is some completely trivial tiff.
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Ostania is clearly capitalist. Westalis is a socialist utopia.
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Internal propaganda portrays it as communist with Westalia as capitalist but Ostania has all of the trappings of not just market capitalism but the hyper income inequality and classism of modern late stage capitalism. Just as New York is the fifth character of Sex and the City, so too is Berlint yet another example of a main character with a distinction between public and private persona. For another example of a romance allegorically set in dialogue with the conflict between East and West, public and private, try Jenny Erpenbeck’s recently translated novel “Kairos”
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Tree Goat posted:modern late stage capitalism. This seems redundant
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adorno liked "late capitalism" to pick out a specific kind of multinational post ww2 corporate capitalism and who am i to argue
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So a new trailer for the upcoming video game has dropped: https://youtu.be/HLs6N8_p8yw?si=zvVUWVA5qf1PuMOP
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David D. Davidson posted:So a new trailer for the upcoming video game has dropped: I feel like the true SxF experience would be this and then between every day you play either Metal Gear Solid or Bayonetta.
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ImpAtom posted:I feel like the true SxF experience would be this and then between every day you play either Metal Gear Solid or Bayonetta. And then for Bond you play a modified version of Ghost Trick. Or a bizarre good boy version of Untitled Goose Game
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New chapter! For a girl who's courting expulsion, Anya sure is popular. https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1020001
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Tournament arc Tournament arc Tournament arc!
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Everything about this chapter is delightful. I love the way SPY X FAMILY is able to swerve deftly between incredibly high stakes and incredibly low stakes and take them both with a straight face.
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I love that anya goes from ~elegant~ on the left to total dork on the right within a matter of panels
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poo poo... I think this might be my favorite chapter, it had me cracking up the whole time.
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i forgot why she calls him sy-on boy
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She doesn’t know what a scion is. What word is she mangling in Japanese?
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She calls him "jinan," which literally means "second son." So Viz definitely makes her sound a bit dumber.
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For all that Anya and Damien are the stars of the chapter, I have to say that I really like how Damien's buddies are standing up for their bossman
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Some Numbers posted:She calls him "jinan," which literally means "second son." it's becuz she can detect telepathic powers coming from psion boy
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Shout out to Becky for being the most emotionally mature person there despite being 6.
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She's trying to date Loid
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Emotionally mature was probably the wrong phrase. What I meant is that I enjoy how emotionally supportive she is towards Anya.
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Anya's dress is very nice, but I can't imagine putting a "six"-year-old in an off-the-shoulder number without bits sliding off/wonky/sideways after ten minutes.
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panko posted:she probably had it made for peanuts I don't think peanuts are that valuable a currency for a tailor, but I may be wrong.
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Saoshyant posted:I don't think peanuts are that valuable a currency for a tailor, but I may be wrong. They will be if Anya grows up to be one
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I'm pretty sure Twilight and/or Fankie has moonlighted as Tailor at least once in their life.
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yes, in between stints as tinker and soldier
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ZiegeDame posted:100% chance Yor picked out that dress "It has so many places you can hide a knife!"
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Mirage posted:Anya's dress is very nice, but I can't imagine putting a "six"-year-old in an off-the-shoulder number without bits sliding off/wonky/sideways after ten minutes. i know adults that would have that go wonky after less than ten minutes
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