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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Nobody judge me for the thread title okay

New season of Netflix hit GLOW came out yesterday and it is super good! It follows them doing a live show in Vegas following the cancellation of their TV show at the end of s2, and therefore losing the rights to take their characters to another network. Alison Brie is still hilarious, Marc Maron is still sulky, Betty Gilpin still has Various Struggles. I’m not sure if I liked it as much as s2 but it’s still another solid season.

Discuss!

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Grem
Mar 29, 2004

It's how her species communicates

Said it in the chat thread but holy crap that first scene was nuts, anyone who hasn't seen the show should at least see that.

Randallteal
May 7, 2006

The tears of time
It was weird hearing that Debbie's kid is only eight months old in the first or second episode. And that's after however long of a gap there is between the second and third seasons. Makes the timeline of the first two seem super compressed.

Edit: Betty Gilpin's killing it with the silent rage faces this season.

Randallteal fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Aug 11, 2019

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
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Randallteal posted:

It was weird hearing that Debbie's kid is only eight months old in the first or second episode. And that's after however long of a gap there is between the second and third seasons. Makes the timeline of the first two seem super compressed.

Edit: Betty Gilpin's killing it with the silent rage faces this season.

They said 10 months, which still seems way too young.

Binged the whole thing today. It was really good, although I think it had some structural issues. Season 1 & 2 sold the hell out of the struggle to pull this crazy thing off. Season 3 doesn't have any unifying arc with the same driving urgency, although the character drama was still on point. Possibly the strongest season yet in that regard.

PotatoJudge
May 22, 2004

Tell me about the rabbits, George
Ruth's fanny pack is killing me.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Straight White Shark posted:

They said 10 months, which still seems way too young.

Binged the whole thing today. It was really good, although I think it had some structural issues. Season 1 & 2 sold the hell out of the struggle to pull this crazy thing off. Season 3 doesn't have any unifying arc with the same driving urgency, although the character drama was still on point. Possibly the strongest season yet in that regard.

I liked the change. I think it would have started to wear thin if they were still struggling (think Silicon Valley). The character stuff was very good and it was funny.

Randallteal
May 7, 2006

The tears of time
I think I like Debbie's Zoya better. I couldn't help but laugh out loud like an idiot at "Oh Darling, I'm your daddy now" and her needling of Bash was great.

PotatoJudge
May 22, 2004

Tell me about the rabbits, George
Toby Huss playing a Boz like character makes me want to re-watch Halt and Catch Fire again.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
e9 i'm glad bash figured things out

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Strong season from a directorial standpoint - they did a lot of weird, creative things like the camping episode and the gimmick switching/christmas carol stuff and that was fun to see. Agreed with the sentiment that they are better off not focusing on a struggling show, and it was nice to see how they just kind of got along with all the other Vegas performers instead of being treated as outsiders.

That said, there were definitely structural issues - the drag performer/gay bar storyline was fun, but felt like it was from a different show and it didn't quite work trying to stuff other plots like Tex into it, IMO. Also, barely any wrestling outside of two, three episodes or thereabouts? I think it's only going to be a growing problem that a lot of the character storylines are starting to diverge, yet the show kind of needs them all to be together, otherwise it just feels off - like the whole Sam/Justine directing plot just took me out of the Vegas stuff entirely when it popped up.

hope and vaseline
Feb 13, 2001

Ep 3: I'm loving dying at Melrose's whole hooker mix-up, I can't breathe

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
I’m surprised that we saw absolutely nothing of the movie that was going to be made except an audition, but then again this is a TV show about a TV show that’s now about a theater show.

I definitely liked the freaky Tuesday episode the most. Hopefully next season we have more of the wrestling of the gorgeous ladies of wrestling. And more for Arthie to do.

Is it just me or was Birdie the nicest by far this season? You absolutely get a sense that she’s right and bash is wrong about so many things.

Golden Bee fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Aug 11, 2019

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
I don't normally binge watch shows but I had a lazy Saturday and wound up watching the final 7 or 8 episodes. Really good season but I still don't really get what Ruth sees in Sam other than "not Russell."

Also I feel like the fire at the drag ball wasn't really dwelled on enough. Everyone experienced this horrible hate crime that could've killed people and then Yolanda was like "it wasn't targeted at you so get over it" and then it just isn't touched on again.

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
I think that’s a weakness of having nine different plot lines in the show.

OldMemes
Sep 5, 2011

I have to go now. My planet needs me.
Just finished the season, and I really liked it, aside from maybe some pacing issues in the last two episodes.

One of the things the show has done well is balance a big cast, and for the most part they did again, even if Stacey, Dawn and Reggie got kinda sidelined for the the other characters.

I did like the move from them being underdogs to having something more established, it gave it that knife edge 'when is it all going to fall apart' tension, which all came to a head in the camping episode. Anyone else nicely suprised that Sam didn't try and pass off the screenplay as his own work - I assumed that was going to happen, given the scenes of his writing, and that Justine gave him a copy with no front page, so it was a nice bit of character growth there.


Same thing I noticed in Stranger Things, there seemed to be a lot less licensed music in this season than the first two, I guess its a cost cutting move?

I was dissapointed by the abscense of GLOW-bot this season.

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
The first episode of the new stranger things seems to be wall-to-wall copyright music, I don’t know what you’re on about.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Also Debbie’s bulimia never really came up again huh?

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Just finished the season, and yeah, it was a bit scattershot and short on actual wrestling (although Carmen doing the Undertaker was awesome).

Really liked Sheila's story this season, and she was awesome doing the "Miss Julie" monologue.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
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Henchman of Santa posted:

Also Debbie’s bulimia never really came up again huh?

No, but the burger and fries did

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

bounced super hard off the first episode, but two and three won me back. geena davis is a treat and I'm pretty sure my fancy grandma owned that sequin power suit thing

also, is the outro animation new this season? it's loving amazing.

DryGoods
Apr 26, 2014

Dogs, on the other hand, can connect with that pathos.
Binged this season the other night and loved it. I feel like it's in Stranger Things territory, where intellectually I pick up structural issues but I'm enjoying the character stuff so much I'm still in love.

I'm happy with each character and feel like I have a good grasp on who and what they are. But Reggie feels like a background character. She could be removed for S4 and I probably wouldn't notice.

It feels odd when the group is hanging out and she's sorta just there.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Absolutely superb season - the best so far. GLOW has metamorphosed from a fun, gaudy show into what feels like a top tier drama.

Bash and Debbie's plots this season were my favourite. Really strong stuff. Bobby and Sandy were great additions, too.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

PotatoJudge posted:

Ruth's fanny pack is killing me.
It's official, she's become a real wrestler.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Someone found the clip of Bayley and Sasha they rotoscoped for the intro. Now I want to know where all the other clips came from!

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Tehran 1979
Jan 28, 2019

by Lowtax
I'm certainly not complaining but there's been a pretty big increase in the amount of nudity, type of it and amount of the women who are comfortable going nude this season. Really feels like they're trying to up the ratings with it or something.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Pretty weird how they don’t address what Sheila even does in the show after she destroys her character. It’s good for her mental health and everything but it was literally her job to pretend to be a wolf.

Retrowave Joe
Jul 20, 2001

Well, if the last episode is any indicator they don’t have the legal rights to those characters anymore, so she’d have to get a new gimmick anyway.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


Re: Sheila

I initially thought she was supposed to be a stand-in for otherkin or furries or something and early on the show leaned heavily towards everyone around her choosing to accept that this is who she is as a person, but then... she just kind of gets over it? I'm getting somewhat mixed messages from this whole subplot.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



DryGoods posted:

I'm happy with each character and feel like I have a good grasp on who and what they are. But Reggie feels like a background character. She could be removed for S4 and I probably wouldn't notice.

It feels odd when the group is hanging out and she's sorta just there.

I've watched every season and I honestly can't remember anything of note Reggie has done. Heck, I read the AV Club review of ep 4 and when they mentioned Reggie I was like 'Who?' Hopefully she gets to do something in S4.

Episode 5 was a total hoot. 'And coming into the ring... a Nun. Because why the Hell not.'

I'm also looking forward to them showing Tamme getting to be a manager next season. Her storyline kinda fizzled after E6 and Carmen bringing up managers.

Maybe she can become Reggie's manager and finally give her some kind of memorable storyline.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

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Fun Shoe
Reggie seems to be having a lot of fun as a background character, so I hope they do actually give her something to do. I think (hope) her character switch was teasing a more interesting role in the future if they get another season.

It is a bit weird, since her S1/S2 characterization (what little of it there was) mostly revolved around being angry and that seems to have gone out the window. Every time she appears in a scene this season she seems to be happy and enthusiastic about whatever she's doing.

Tehran 1979
Jan 28, 2019

by Lowtax
Yolanda was just a completely unsympathetic bitch the whole season which made it really disgusting that in the end she's pushed as the one who was "right" about everything.

BlackIronHeart
Aug 2, 2004

The Oath Breaker's about to hit warphead nine Kaptain!
Ep 5: The character swaps are amazing, I can't choose my favorite. "I feel like I'm on acid."

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Tehran 1979 posted:

I'm certainly not complaining but there's been a pretty big increase in the amount of nudity, type of it and amount of the women who are comfortable going nude this season. Really feels like they're trying to up the ratings with it or something.

it seems about on par with season 1, i think there was less in season 2

lost my old email
Jun 20, 2019

Hakkesshu posted:

Re: Sheila

I initially thought she was supposed to be a stand-in for otherkin or furries or something and early on the show leaned heavily towards everyone around her choosing to accept that this is who she is as a person, but then... she just kind of gets over it? I'm getting somewhat mixed messages from this whole subplot.

i also did not quite get what they were going for UNLESS we are not really supposed to worry too much about sheila as a character in of herself and she exists more as a foil for ruth?

Doronin
Nov 22, 2002

Don't be scared
I'm watching the episode where they do "freaky Tuesday" and switch characters and this is loving hilarious. Bash progressively becoming more and more defeated as the show goes on was one of my favorite bits this show has done.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Tehran 1979 posted:

Yolanda was just a completely unsympathetic bitch the whole season which made it really disgusting that in the end she's pushed as the one who was "right" about everything.

It's a little understandable in the context of the times- she's actually living as an out lesbian in 1986, which is dangerous, and Arthie's acting like "maybe not, I don't wanna label myself" which, to Yolanda, seems like she's giving herself an out if she decides it was just an experiment. Like the same conversation in a modern setting would bring up questions of bi erasure and letting people just find who they are at their own pace, and I don't think Yolanda's 100% in the right, but I can understand her maybe having been with a few women who then decide "This was fun but no I'm not one of those".

On a similar note I see why the issue of the fire isn't developed much further- the police aren't going to investigate a hate crime against a gay bar in '86 (hell it's a hard enough time getting them to do it now), so it's not like they can find out who did it or do much besides just, well, try to keep on.

To be sure there's a lot of stuff left unresolved, but in that case it felt like "there's nowhere we can take this that isn't horribly depressing", and I think the wider issue of being gay in Reagan's America is one that the show is going to pick up going forward. Assuming Netflix does the right thing.

Anyway, a good season. I've heard LaToya Ferguson suggest the dearth of wrestling may be because there was a bit of a delay between s2 and s3 and the actors weren't quite ready to get back to throwing each other around, so if Netflix renews this show I hope it's soon.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
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Henchman of Santa posted:

Also Debbie’s bulimia never really came up again huh?

Debbie took a pretty loving quick turnaround this season, without really any arc between. Like she started going on this downhill ride of loving every guy in the casino and hating not being with her son. Then her son moves to Vegas and she gets a boyfriend and is all of a sudden wanting to be the producer and more.

There is just nothing in between her obviously going downhill and then running into Tex and her being on the top of the world.

Although, I think there is probably a lot of instances like that in the show with it only being ten 30-40 minute episodes for a season.

lost my old email
Jun 20, 2019

SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

Debbie took a pretty loving quick turnaround this season, without really any arc between. Like she started going on this downhill ride of loving every guy in the casino and hating not being with her son. Then her son moves to Vegas and she gets a boyfriend and is all of a sudden wanting to be the producer and more.

There is just nothing in between her obviously going downhill and then running into Tex and her being on the top of the world.

Although, I think there is probably a lot of instances like that in the show with it only being ten 30-40 minute episodes for a season.

there was a big rear end time jump where ruth spent 6 months taking her makeup off

edit: also doing a christmas episode in the height of summer was A Choice

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
I liked that they managed to set up the Christmas play in less than a day, get all the costumes, make a new set, learn all the lines, the whole works.

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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

Debbie took a pretty loving quick turnaround this season, without really any arc between. Like she started going on this downhill ride of loving every guy in the casino and hating not being with her son. Then her son moves to Vegas and she gets a boyfriend and is all of a sudden wanting to be the producer and more.

There is just nothing in between her obviously going downhill and then running into Tex and her being on the top of the world.

Although, I think there is probably a lot of instances like that in the show with it only being ten 30-40 minute episodes for a season.

I'm also not really sure why she decided to screw Tex over unless I didn't catch something. Surely she could have everything she would be getting via Bash if his bid was accepted, without all the drama?

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