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an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Oh man that Shadows of the Empire video is fantastic and something I think a lot about when playing games. It's kind of wild how many games have to make structures that don't make sense and why, and how cool it is when a game gets it right.

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Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

an actual dog posted:

Oh man that Shadows of the Empire video is fantastic and something I think a lot about when playing games. It's kind of wild how many games have to make structures that don't make sense and why, and how cool it is when a game gets it right.

yesss!! i really wish he'd do more videos in that style with brent porter

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

lately i've been into stuff like classics of game and silva gunner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=user?ClassicsOfGame
classics of game just curates weird obscure stuff, you've probably seen some of it linked about
silva gunner is hard to descirbe, it's kinda about game music, but they have a house style where they'll do like covers of songs or just weird jokes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3L-tJRRd64

imhotep
Nov 16, 2009

REDBAR INTENSIFIES

Zas posted:

lately i've been into stuff like classics of game and silva gunner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=user?ClassicsOfGame
classics of game just curates weird obscure stuff, you've probably seen some of it linked about
silva gunner is hard to descirbe, it's kinda about game music, but they have a house style where they'll do like covers of songs or just weird jokes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3L-tJRRd64

That first link says 'video unavailable'. but i'm curious to watch it, I was just thinking about how I would like more video game audio stuff in general on youtube, there's a really great GDC talk about Nier: Automata's sound design, and how it handles stuff like the transition to the 8 bit renditions of tracks when you hack, as well as other parts of the game that do stuff like that, but way more fascinating (I don't want to spoil Nier so I don't want to give away that particular set piece and what it does), but yeah I'm glad that video games are doing interesting stuff with sound lately, or at least in the last year or two games have been doing more dynamic stuff with music and sound, like Mario Odyssey and Breath of the Wild handle music cues really well, just off the top of my head and because they're like the two most popular games to come out in the last few years.

And yeah, Shadows of the Empire is really great, it's pretty strange how it tried stuff like that in like early 1997 and on a console too. The amount of really great, but weird stuff like those challenge points that are way out in the distance, like they said, just feels like something you'd try if you were messing around trying to test the boundaries of the game. And it's level design is actually visually pretty on point, like, for how grey and brown everything is, the levels are so sparse, then they have these oddly shaped ledges on one side of a canyon that you traveled super far to get to. I kind of want to play it again, I know it like the back of my hand, but not the sewer level because I was terrified of underwater levels as a kid and had one of my friends who lived down the street beat it. And now that I'm not as afraid of underwater levels it should be interesting to experience basically playing it blind 20 years later.

imhotep fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Sep 9, 2019

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.

exquisite tea posted:

Innuendo Studios. I feel that Life is Strange is a game that a lot of people either really love or despise, but often misunderstand in either direction. This is the one analysis out of many that really, truly gets what the game is about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19xgdLF5agU&t=2s

i really enjoyed this video, thanks!

Ibexaz
Jul 23, 2013

The faces he makes while posting are inexcusable! When he writes a post his face is like a troll double checking bones to see if there's any meat left! When I post I look like a peacock softly kissing a rose! Didn't his parents provide him with a posting mirror to practice forums faces growing up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yorTG9at90g

Gamemakers Toolkit is a fantastic channel that's well worth a sub, consistently good analysis.

Old Binsby
Jun 27, 2014

i don't have any good videos to add to the thread, sadly, but i'm thoroughly enjoying the backlog you are all providing. the aesthetics of far cry 2 even has a comments section that doesn't make me want to claw out my eyeballs, which is a first in internet history afaik. In fact, some of the comments are themselves pretty insightful critiques :pusheen:

Prokhor
Jun 28, 2009

In one moment, Earth; in the next, Heaven.

LionEyez posted:

What I like about the critique is that I initially thought hbomberguy had a good point and maybe Dark Souls 2 wasn't as bad as I thought. But point by point, Mauler shows us that the arguments presented are flimsy at best.

Fuckin woof on this one brother.



If it takes you a half hour into your ten hour epic to reach your thesis statement maybe you shouldn't be making a video.

I think everyone can sniff out the Gamer stench from the dude subscribed to every single Sargon of Akkad channel.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice
Isn't Crowbcat a goon? I could swear he used to post in one of the Steam threads years ago.

Anyway, that Far Cry 2 video is amazing and so well-done that it's given me and a few people I linked it to a newfound respect for the game.

_jink
Jan 14, 2006

noclip is great, here's a random doc about the making of warframe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOE6528pwFc

other personal favs are the making of rocket league, doom, horizon: zero dawn, and hitman. channel also has loads of other misc stuff of varying (but usually quite high) quality

- - -

folding ideas doesn't have many videos specifically about games, but they're all good. here's one about shovelware:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--SXFB7m6mk

his other two recent videos on fortnite's predatory monetization & colonialism in minecraft are also extremely good!

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more
yo i also wanna boost civvie 11 again because 1) he's quite funny and insightful imo and 2) if he hits 100k subs his imprisoned mortal coil has to do a video about duke nukem forever. the audio mixing in his earlier videos is bad, which is why theyre marked "old and crap," but theyre still rly good and his new stuff has perfectly fine production quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_cHAtwr8_U

LionEyez
Aug 17, 2014

Prokhor posted:

Fuckin woof on this one brother.



If it takes you a half hour into your ten hour epic to reach your thesis statement maybe you shouldn't be making a video.

I think everyone can sniff out the Gamer stench from the dude subscribed to every single Sargon of Akkad channel.

Yeah uhh, I have a lot of free time on my hands

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more
civvie 11 is at 96k subscribers... only 4k more for the DNF video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x01057G-Skc

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more

LionEyez posted:

Yeah uhh, I have a lot of free time on my hands

me too, but im curious if you were actually Watching all of the video or just putting it on in the background for listening. i can understand the latter. the former... that would inspire More Questions

Prokhor
Jun 28, 2009

In one moment, Earth; in the next, Heaven.

sea of losers posted:

civvie 11 is at 96k subscribers... only 4k more for the DNF video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x01057G-Skc

I watched this video and then a bunch more of theirs, very good and fun.

Ty for the recommend

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

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this guy makes music but also critiques horror games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYu7_wzuKk

LionEyez
Aug 17, 2014

sea of losers posted:

me too, but im curious if you were actually Watching all of the video or just putting it on in the background for listening. i can understand the latter. the former... that would inspire More Questions

I tried treating it as a podcast but that didn't work too well, as he showed a lot of clips. So yeah I watched the whole thing. Not all at once mind you, but back then I had terrible insomnia while at the same time too tired to game, so I started watching a lot of youtube. I happen to also have a fascination for the newer Star Wars movies and Mauler did a few critiques on TFA amd TLJ as well, where he put into words what I felt but couldn't quite articulate myself.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


I really appreciate this thread and I'm making my way through videos posted here that I haven't seen before. Please continue posting here even if it's slow. It could work just like the fantastic Appreciation of Weird, Sick and Twisted Animation thread in Blockbuster Video.

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more
my boi SCG coming in with another slammer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVqRW7oX__U

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

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Palpek posted:

I really appreciate this thread and I'm making my way through videos posted here that I haven't seen before. Please continue posting here even if it's slow. It could work just like the fantastic Appreciation of Weird, Sick and Twisted Animation thread in Blockbuster Video.

i implore you: instantly ban anyone who posts AngryJoe or AVGN (update: maybe not AVGN, according to some other posters)
reasons as follows:
1. theyre both famous enough to live off youtube money / fame without patreons or they have tons of patreons or whatever, so they've already "made it" as far as youtube reviewing goes
2. they both try to be funny by being really angry
3. neither of them are funny and both of them just seem impotently petulant, without providing anything else of value in their content
4. in fact just ban any reviewer with "angry" in their name. or make the poster go make a "bad dumb videos about videogames" thread and put them there

one may notice that many of these reviews (not all, but many) are chill and not angry. this is because being angry about something severely clouds your judgment and temporarily turns you into a smoothbrain. anger can be funny intermittently as part of a larger video (like pyrocynical getting mad about condemned's tazer) but constant anger and frustration reek of a toddler's approach to criticism and a scrooge mcduck lowest common denominator approach to trying to get that sweet sweet youtube ad revenue.

this is why civvie 11, someone who gets angry and frustrated at games and is good at making it funny, takes time to play games he actually likes. he also expresses his anger in other ways, such as confusion, fear, dread, everything being portrayed through the framing device of him being tortured by the US department of special corrections, very skillful editing/cuts, giving credit where it's due, and making a bunch of fitting movie references (like in his kreed video). if all you do is rail on every single thing you play, only conveying your emotions and not the reasons the game is making you feel the way you do, then you just become a bitter child

for content: here's tehsnakerer making the best video on hunt down the freeman that exists. HDTF is a game that should very understandably make any player angry, but he's very good at dissecting why and explaining himself without just yelling about what he wanted out of the game or filming himself dressing up in a $5 homemade astronaut suit made of tin foil and motorcycle helmet and yelling and jumping around (AngryJoe i will not forgive you for wasting 6min of my life with your no man's sky review):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2DZaQgGcI

i suppose this is the real difference between a good reviewer and a bad one: a good reviewer will explain WHY a game is bad in detail and WHY it elicited such a reaction from them. a bad reviewer will just show footage of the game or dress up in a costume and appeal purely to emotion, like basically every republican politician or NRA member or pewdiepie.

the reason im so emphatic about this thing is because, as i am trying to demonstrate with the thread, there are a SHITTON of people who review games rly well in a unique style and theyre not getting even 1/100th of the support that those other dickheads do. if we dont want games criticism to become more of a toilet than it already is, we NEED to support the ppl who are making quality content or they will just let their channels die or become complacent and fade away. support doesnt have to be $$, it can be just liking a video, subscribing to the channel, and reposting it.

sea of losers fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Sep 14, 2019

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more
pyrocynical makes his bread by being a professional youtube gossip/drama coagulator/interpreter but sometimes he reviews games, and when he does he does a good job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDjZ-tg_24w

edit: this might seem less like a review because he's practically fellating the game, but he does a good job of explaining why, and the game deserves more attention than it's gotten.

sea of losers fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Sep 14, 2019

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

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Prokhor posted:

I watched this video and then a bunch more of theirs, very good and fun.

you might say theyre... loving RAW

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

sea of losers posted:

i implore you: instantly ban anyone who posts AngryJoe or AVGN
reasons as follows:
1. theyre both famous enough to live off youtube money / fame without patreons or they have tons of patreons or whatever, so they've already "made it" as far as youtube reviewing goes
2. they both try to be funny by being really angry
3. neither of them are funny and both of them just seem impotently petulant, without providing anything else of value in their content
4. in fact just ban any reviewer with "angry" in their name. or make the poster go make a "bad dumb videos about videogames" thread and put them there
James Rolfe actually has neat informative videos, but they're about his bigger interest, movies, which obviously isn't in the purview of this thread.

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

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Accordion Man posted:

James Rolfe actually has neat informative videos, but they're about his bigger interest, movies, which obviously isn't in the purview of this thread.

i can believe this, but i wouldn't know about it personally because it seems to take a backseat to his content where he just gets angry about everything. also calling himself the Angry Movie Nerd might've helped

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

i mean tbh he barely really gets mad anymore. the last video of his i watched was his seaman video which wasnt amazing or anything but was mostly just jokes about how meta the game gets, not him yelling swears at him.

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more
well i suppose i'm just not up-to-date on his later, less anger-focused material. if he has a Good Video about Videogames then post it i guess. my main concern with this thread is to bring attention to the little guys who do a good job but dont make a living off of youtube vids, or are trying but struggling. this is partially why i like spicy chicken god alot: he works a job, he has to still live with his parents because he cant afford his own place right now, i think he's only 23 years old, yet he puts what little free time he has into these passion project videos for others to enjoy. the love for doing it shines through

sea of losers fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Sep 14, 2019

LionEyez
Aug 17, 2014
A gaming Youtube channel I can recommend is ThorHighHeels.

He covers a lot of older, obscure titles. Specifically a lot of ps1 and ps2. His main series is "So I've been playing", short videos combining a bit of history about the game and his personal feelings. Helped me discover some games I never even knew existed. Such as 10.000 bullets, for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULHaopx-sdQ

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

sea of losers posted:

i can believe this, but i wouldn't know about it personally because it seems to take a backseat to his content where he just gets angry about everything. also calling himself the Angry Movie Nerd might've helped

He straight up only releases a few Nerd episodes a year nowadays, on account of being busy with life (wife and a kid, IIRC) and other passion projects. Angry Joe gets a lot of hate but his heart is generally in the right place.

That said, I agree that there's not much point in posting their stuff ITT because while I don't think either of them are Bad their stuff tends to be on a totally different wavelength to the kind of chill, cerebral game critique that's this thread's bread and butter.


Also, content: Nobody's posted NitroRad yet? He specializes in 3D platformers and survival horror and while I haven't watched anything in the latter category the former contains just about every obscure also-ran mascot platformer ever as well as the big boys, and every time he tries to take them at face value and appreciate what they brought to the table even if the execution wasn't perfect.

John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Sep 14, 2019

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica
Monster Factory is the only gaming video series I've watched more than once + has contributed so many wonderful phrases to my daily vocabulary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EExZ-X-CHOs

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

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AESTHETICS OF FAR CRY 3 BY FACE FULL OF EYES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5T4SeG18so

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

sea of losers posted:

AESTHETICS OF FAR CRY 3 BY FACE FULL OF EYES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5T4SeG18so

YES

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Woah that was insanely good

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

an actual dog posted:

Woah that was insanely good

He's incredibly based the Far Cry 2 video is even better.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

net cafe scandal posted:

He's incredibly based the Far Cry 2 video is even better.

yea I can see why his videos take five months

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


sea of losers posted:

AESTHETICS OF FAR CRY 3 BY FACE FULL OF EYES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5T4SeG18so
Thanks

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

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pro QUAKE by CV-11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whizTpYtWxA

Vier
Aug 5, 2007

Metal Gear Solid 4 was a Mistake by Steak Bentley [3:26:53]!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93-_r0w7ykI

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

miy mwoiultlh tbreaptpreude ifno srteavtiecr more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfYQvlLylQ0

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

Vier posted:

Metal Gear Solid 4 was a Mistake by Steak Bentley [3:26:53]!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93-_r0w7ykI

I dont want to start a derail about bad videos in the good video thread but theres no way this video is good.

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sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

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net cafe scandal posted:

I dont want to start a derail about bad videos in the good video thread but theres no way this video is good.

here's the better video about that game, by superbunnyhop (its less than 48min)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QGpsvlrdPA

on that other 3h+ video:
it's not Bad, but it's a sort of stream-of-consciousness not organized thing and they probably couldve made this video wayyyy more succinct if they tried. this is a fairly common issue and only a few ppl rly manage to either edit their videos down well OR be just That Enjoyable to listen to

sea of losers fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Sep 18, 2019

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