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Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
lol

bulgogi hoagie posted:

have you considered that there are good and less good ways of implementing capitalism, same for socialism. hell I'd even argue that capitalism and socialism are not even really in opposition because socialism can only exist in a stable state as part of a capitalist system

whereas communism is actually outright impossible


sure it's hella gay that the rich people of America outright feel that they can get away with anything. but the answer to that is reining in the current system, not crashing it and replacing it with a fairy tale

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Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
The early pages of the lf thread had some quality lib takes

Jewel Repetition posted:

Homework Explainer posted:

it does, but hey who's this guy marx anyway? he's dead now. shows how much he knows

Isn't that the guy whose ideas caused every country that tried them to go to hell?

Jewel Repetition posted:

Liberal democracies wage a lot less war, especially with each other, than any other political system.

Yudo posted:

^^^Trump over Stalin for sure.

You are desperately trying to minimize the calculated and cruel murder of millions of people because it makes your politics look bad.

LGD posted:

I don't really care that people all make the "right" choices, you don't really care that you're advocating a system that produces food that is worse than we feed to our pets. I'm pretty ok with where I stand on this issue.

As opposed to the robust history of successful implementation, lack of political infighting, and non-abuse that we've seen in countries that have adopted centralized food production and distribution systems? Politics exists, it is a thing, and the notion that we will achieve communism and history will end in a perfect stasis is actively delusional. Personally I think the system that produces high quality foods and consumer goods that offer people choice is the one that will prove more resilient vs. a centralized system oriented around making sure everyone gets an equal portion of the "right" stuff. History would seem to back me up here, since it has been the hyrbid democratic-capitalist nations that have buried all the attempts at communism while delivering a higher standard of living to the average citizen.

I mean your central complaint right now is that capitalism is making our poorest too fat. It's true, and a social problem we need to address but lol

fishmech posted:

Contrary to popular complete misunderstanding, very few Americans are simultaneously overweight (or even normal weight) and lacking in any nutrients. Americans with nutritional deficiencies are primarily those who are extremely poor and can't get enough food to become fat, usually due to being barred from food aid systems for one reason or another (typically, homelessness). Other people likely in America to be nutritionally deprived: anorexic people (for obvious reasons) and vegans (almost always because of B12).


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