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infernal machines posted:i only used it a few times. i remember it being just weirdly clunky. it looked like windows 3.1, but there were enough ui differences to make it weird to navigate at times USB support being missing entirely was a problem with Windows NT 4.0 Workstation in the later years. But there were third-party products that would add in USB support.
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do you think i could browse the modern web with windows 3.1
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no i mean, unless you use a proxy that strips and flattens everything and is http only. but effectively no.
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load up a vm and try for yourself
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I've posted with emacs and lynx but windows 3.1 sounds rough.
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Beamed posted:do you think i could browse the modern web with windows 3.1 ie5 was the last supported version on win 3.1 so, no
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now that i think about it, ie 5 had pretty impressive cross-platform chops
am i missing any others seems like it ran on a bunch of poo poo
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on the other hand, the modern web is total dogshit, so you might be at a net positive there
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OldAlias posted:load up a vm and try for yourself My VM fusion won't work on this Mojave operating system what the HECK
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Why would you expect the Desktop version of ios to be able to run a VM?
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because my fifty bucks 
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:now that i think about it, ie 5 had pretty impressive cross-platform chops #wow #iefacts
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Joe 30330 posted:Autoexec.bat could just be re-ran if for some reason that was necessary wait, what? was this always the case? no-one told me, heck 
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Sep 23, 2019 15:33
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it's just a batch file, like any other, so yes
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Sep 23, 2019 16:19
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config.sys was only read at boot, though
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Sep 23, 2019 16:20
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yes, because it was system configuration options loaded by the kernel
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infernal machines posted:yes, because it was system configuration options loaded by the kernel indeedy-do
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i'll be frank here, gently caress dos. i don't miss it.
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Sep 23, 2019 16:28
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I miss knowing exactly what was happening and why at all times.
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Jerry Cotton posted:I miss knowing exactly what was happening and why at all times. it was only ever an illusion anyway
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:it was only ever an illusion anyway Thus of old: bit goes in, bit comes out UNLESS YOUR SOUND BLASTER IS THE WRONG IRQ Thus now: bit goes in WHAT THE FUXK IS APPLE BONJOUR THIS IS AN OSBORNE
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:now that i think about it, ie 5 had pretty impressive cross-platform chops when ie was good it was pretty ridiculously good it is popular to imagine that ie hegemony was more about microsoft strong-arming than it was, when really the peak dotcom bubble coincided with there being no sane alternative to ie (i really really tried to live mixing netscape4 and like mozilla m12 in the early naughts, but they were just incredibly trash-tier)
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:when ie was good it was pretty ridiculously good while netscape was definitely totally doomed in the long run (their technical debt was so bad that mozilla decided to build a whole new browser from scratch than try to fix the original netscape code that was given to them) you can't ignore that microsoft's abuse of their monopoly power was at least part of the reason why netscape ended up in that position. netscape's business model was to sell web browsers (and web servers, but i don't know how much success they ever found in that market), and having a free competitor with equal functionality made that impossible. the reason ie was free was because microsoft had a monopoly on client operating systems which they could use to fund ie development and later to bundle ie to force it into consumer's hands before they even knew they could make a browser choice. ie probably would have won in the end (and netscape probably would have still collapsed) even without those monopoly tactics due to ie's technical superiority but it certainly would have taken longer a lot longer (look at how long its taken google to build a near-monopoly on browsers back up with chrome/blink).
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netscape died because it sucked. the idea that Microsoft should have charged for IE because "it wasn't fair to bad developers" is totally idiotic. IE was free because web browsers are a core os feature. altho thats not to say netscape didn't leave a lasting legacy. javascript will forever taint the web
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Lol k
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Mr.Radar posted:you can't ignore that microsoft's abuse of their monopoly power was at least part of the reason why netscape ended up in that position. your thesis is correct but your reasoning is dead wrong Mr.Radar posted:netscape's business model was to sell web browsers (and web servers, but i don't know how much success they ever found in that market), and having a free competitor with equal functionality made that impossible. netscape gave away the browser for free from day one, and even their enterprise licensing business in browsers (support contracts) was pretty small selling the web server and related items was a billion dollar business the reason microsoft got sued by the doj wasn't that they were bundling ie and outlook for free, it was that they were prohibiting oems from bundling anything else it's unlikely that the presence or absence of preinstalled ie made any financial difference for netscape. they exited in a sale to aol for billions of dollars, and aol sold the enterprise division to sun microsystem for another undisclosed amount they lost the browser market, but that never mattered to anyone except microsoft p.s. did you ever wonder why they open sourced mozilla? the project was a clusterfuck and the profit potential was $0. there was no god drat money in it. their crown jewels on the server side were not open sourced.
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Anyway IE was free so that MS didn't have to pay royalties to the company that wrote it. Or something like that anyway. I'm sure Fishmech will be here presently to correct me because I can't be arsed to Bing it right now.
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is nbsd a fishmech alt
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Gentle Autist posted:is nbsd a fishmech alt Unless someone edited Wikipedia to say child murder is OK, Fishmech has never advocated for it.
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Gentle Autist posted:is nbsd a fishmech alt no fischmeche likes windows and nbsd likes linux. big differences
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windows has a linux now too, something for everyone
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:your thesis is correct but your reasoning is dead wrong oh, that makes sense (especially the part about their server business). to be fair i was 8 years old at the time this was all going down so i only ever knew the consumer side (and remember my dad buying a boxed copy of Netscape at one point). so really what killed Netscape was Apache/the "LAMP" stack and IIS?
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Mr.Radar posted:oh, that makes sense (especially the part about their server business). to be fair i was 8 years old at the time this was all going down so i only ever knew the consumer side (and remember my dad buying a boxed copy of Netscape at one point). so really what killed Netscape was Apache/the "LAMP" stack and IIS? nothing "killed" netscape, everyone involved got rich as hell. i'm not sure there is another definition of success available for a vc-funded venture. you can still buy the old netscape products to this very day, from oracle or ibm, depending on the product i guess netscape the household brand is gone, but who cares? there was never any money in being a branded web browser
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basically what killed netscape-the-browser was not microsoft competition or the aol buyout or any of that external poo poo it was someone with an actual mba taking the reins at netscape and noticing that they were pouring money into a hole in the ground with absolutely no potential for future returns and so we saw one of the first big dump-it-and-run type open sores releases
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pram posted:no fischmeche likes windows and nbsd likes linux. big differences fishmech (aka nintendo kid) didn't want to reveal his massive love for another sperg domain, so uses nbsd as his unix posting safespace
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Gentle Autist posted:fishmech (aka nintendo kid) didn't want to reveal his massive love for another sperg domain, so uses nbsd as his unix posting safespace you've unraveled the mystery of why our timezones never overlap it's 24 hour posting
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Gentle Autist posted:fishmech (aka nintendo kid) didn't want to reveal his massive love for another sperg domain, so uses nbsd as his unix posting safespace this is making a lot of sense
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Bring back Reversi, anyway.
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hell yeah and programs minimising to the desktop. gently caress your taskbar
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Soricidus posted:hell yeah maybe you would enjoy gnustep on linux just sayin
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