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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
https://leftvalues.github.io
some of the questions are bad but

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

quote:

LeftValues

Question 1 of 72
Reforming capitalist society to achieve better rights for workers is desirable.

first question and it already sucks rear end lol. yeah, sure in the short-term but only as a component of a long-term revolutionary strategy, etc. etc.

Sing Along
Feb 28, 2017

by Athanatos
this pathetic quiz can't comprehend my ideologies

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

finished it anyway

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro




So basically about what I expected. Thought maybe I'd be a bit more towards Utopian and Internationalist but about what I expected.

99.8% match with Eco-Anarchism & 98% match with Anarcho-Communism while coming out with Council Communism is all about right. 0% match with Marxist-Leninist is very funny and also cool.

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

i wanna overthrow capitalism because im afraid of dying but not really that fussed about the specifics so i ended up with eco marxism

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



I got council communism, am I excommunicated now?

e: because I'm technologically challenged

Debbie Does Dagon has issued a correction as of 14:32 on Sep 3, 2019

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Help me I'm a centrist

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011


this is the healthiest balance between idealism and practicality

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
very general questions, had me hem hawing at some because perspective and context matters~

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006

https://leftvalues.github.io/results.html?a=50.0&b=72.1&c=21.7&d=44.6&e=58.3&f=37.5&g=21.9

Centrist Marxism.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

did my best but a lot of those questions were incomprehensible to me

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


these things are kinda hard to not make dumb

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
answered every question with "unsure" and apparently i'm a flithy centrist :qq:

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:
Bunch of reformists in this thread.

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
MY shtick in this thread will be to get pissed off at anyone who's not an Eco Marxist

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
I answered neutral on a bunch of questions I actually had opinions on because none of the choices reflected what I actually think.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Perry Mason Jar posted:

MY shtick in this thread will be to get pissed off at anyone who's not an Eco Marxist

i have more ecological purity than the eco marxists

its bullshit

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

Lastgirl posted:

i have more ecological purity than the eco marxists

its bullshit

you serious bro? im getting pissed off right now

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 4 days!)


rename cspam to the Santa Claus alliance

RobattoJesus
Aug 13, 2002

Pfft, I'm a filthy centrist.

I'm the infuriating boyfriend who replies "I don't mind, you choose" to every single question like "what should we do tonight?", "what do you want to eat?", and "should we enact Marxism via violent revolution?"

mcclay
Jul 8, 2013

Oh dear oh gosh oh darn
Soiled Meat


Thats about right

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:



eco-marxism sounds like Gaia skipping the whole captain planet bs and picking up an AK

in other words it sounds good

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 4 days!)

save the rainforest, kill the rich

Halser
Aug 24, 2016


apparently we're all eco-marxists here

if only I knew what marxism is

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
council communists rejoice! for i am now one of you



i think i got eco marxism the last time this thing went around but i've become a lot more cynical about the environment since then

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

R. Guyovich posted:

first question and it already sucks rear end lol. yeah, sure in the short-term but only as a component of a long-term revolutionary strategy, etc. etc.

yea i quit on the first question, poo poo is weak

besides i already took an ideological test and it identified me as house lannister

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp


I don't know that this is especially accurate though, I ended up with a lot of "neutral" or "disagree" answers because of how the statements were worded. Like, I can't agree that "the means of production, such as factories and farms, must be publicly owned" because I don't agree that that is the only possible option in every circumstance. Generally speaking, sure, it's the best choice. But that's not how it was worded! #autism

I got 78% Democratic Socialism, which is probably closer to accurate.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

if you're not an eco-marxist get the gently caress out

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

cram all decentralists into a giant blender and make a meat-blood slurry

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

I got "Orthodox Marxist" which seems to be different than most other people are getting. From what I can tell, Orthodox Marxist is what you get if you basically answer like Eco-Marxist except with a bit less focus on ecology (probably because I was "unsure" on some of the questions about harming the environment, since I personally think harming the environment is only bad when it will have bad consequences for humans at some point).

vvv Ah, apparently there was one other person (my partisan and productivist ones were a little lower than yours, though it apparently didn't change the end result)

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

these things are kinda hard to not make dumb


Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 22:43 on Sep 3, 2019

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Calibanibal posted:

cram all decentralists into a giant blender and make a meat-blood slurry

good luck getting through the bureaucratic red tape to do this, and then seizing another decentralized economy when yours is bollocked from the kleptocratic greed of a central economy as party apparatchiks get fat off the labor because negotiated coordination is :effort:

post your results or :getout:

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Ytlaya posted:

I got "Orthodox Marxist" which seems to be different than most other people are getting. From what I can tell, Orthodox Marxist is what you get if you basically answer like Eco-Marxist except with a bit less focus on ecology (probably because I was "unsure" on some of the questions about harming the environment, since I personally think harming the environment is only bad when it will have bad consequences for humans at some point).

vvv Ah, apparently there was one other person (my partisan and productivist ones were a little lower than yours, though it apparently didn't change the end result)

i got eco marxist but was 98.8% match for orthodox marxist

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

ya basta i guess



Calibanibal posted:

cram all decentralists into a giant blender and make a meat-blood slurry

come swim in my meat poolie

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 4 days!)

Lastgirl posted:

good luck getting through the bureaucratic red tape to do this, and then seizing another decentralized economy when yours is bollocked from the kleptocratic greed of a central economy as party apparatchiks get fat off the labor because negotiated coordination is :effort:

literally republican talking points

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



yeah whatever those questions should be better

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Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Peanut President posted:

literally republican talking points

how else are you supposed to make economic planning fluid and not sluggish with susceptibility to graft and corruption but also not greedy in their own vacuums where other local economies might do better than others based on random factors like weather and geography?~

is there like a way where you can combine the two, because based on the questions i read, i kept thinking about how central planning basically didn't do much in favor if there's a hierarchy of top level managers directing you and exploiting the labor rather than a bunch of groups coordinating throughout regions without undermining each other and working towards a common goal and patching out resource scarcities to complete each other, but its so generalized :shrug:

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