Star Citizen: $48,000 is only $334/month for 12 years

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Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Star Citizen: It's probably easier than you think

# ¿ Oct 4, 2019 18:22

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 19:11

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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So they're putting in a bunch of FPS stuff because that's what the engine they're using was actually built to do, right? Even though the FPS gameplay doesn't look particularly... dynamic.

# ¿ Oct 9, 2019 13:44

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It's because they chose the wrong engine to begin with with the effect that making nice doors and guns is much easier than making space flight and combat feel good.

# ¿ Oct 17, 2019 19:09

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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"Mark, any comment on Squadron 42?"

"Oh yeah, that game - didn't that come out a couple of years ago?"

# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 15:56

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they don't call him derek dumb, now do they? :useyournoggin:

# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 19:54

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trucutru posted:

Is the first gameplay system the boob slider?

first, last, and only

# ¿ Feb 12, 2020 18:26

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talk about a cargo cult

# ¿ Sep 30, 2020 23:42

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FIDELITY OVERWHELMING

# ¿ Oct 19, 2020 14:03

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trucutru posted:

they are incompetent. It has nothing to do with their chosen engine or that it is supposed to be a MMO.

no, that's an overly reductionist and simple response. most of these weird bugs are due to the engine choice, which was decision that came from the incompetency of a single person

# ¿ May 13, 2021 19:14

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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"Dad, I got into Harvard Law! I'm gonna be a lawyer!"

"No! I got you that Star Citizen account 10 years ago so you would be a CITIZEN, dammit! Now get your butt back in that gamer chair and keep mining!"

# ¿ Jul 30, 2021 18:16

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TheAgent posted:

Twofer

Is that a corg-huahua?

# ¿ Sep 17, 2021 16:52

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Wild guess but I imagine that Rockstar didn't begin development of RDR2 by choosing an engine that required them to rescale everything to a minute fraction of the original size in order to produce a world of the required size, thus throwing off all physics calculations as small floating point issues become exponentially more problematic.

# ¿ Sep 20, 2021 16:51

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code:

You stand before the Star Atlas.
Do you:
a) Read page 1 (Stars A-F)
b) Read page 2 (Stars G-W)
c) Read page 3 (Stars X-Z)
d) Read Star Appendix (Glossary and Terms)
e) Close Star Atlas
>_

# ¿ Oct 12, 2021 22:10

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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HOIP springs eternal

# ¿ Nov 2, 2021 21:15

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I haven't played computer games in 20 years but when I heard about Star Citizen I couldn't wait to pay thousands of dollars to continue not playing games.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2021 15:14

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Mirificus posted:

https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1458493177661378564

"barring any unforeseen technical complications"

# ¿ Nov 10, 2021 19:35

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Rotten Red Rod posted:

Man, remember when Lowtax was funny?

Me neither.

I mean... yes? That's the whole reason this place exists at all, is that people found Jeff K and Leonard Crabs funny.

# ¿ Nov 11, 2021 17:46

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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It's very ambitious to try to develop and release Squadron 42 before they've finished figuring out how spaceships should work.

# ¿ Jan 12, 2022 23:23

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It's ok, they just need to dedicate a server per mine.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2022 22:46

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TheAgent posted:

[*]SQ42 supposedly undergoing a huge push for release but encountering some issues
[*]These issues include mostly gameplay
[*]Overall ship balance is not even being considered until sometime in the neat future
[/list]

Gee

# ¿ Jan 28, 2022 00:14

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Edit: meant to put this in the GBS thread :sweatdrop:

Mozi fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Mar 14, 2022

# ¿ Mar 14, 2022 21:51

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The Titanic posted:

Here's a better quiz:

How many posts has the official Twitter account made to imply the game is in a state that it is not currently in?

So far this post brings you to at least 1. Be sure to find them all!

I'm not certain humanity has made contact with any intelligent life, including ourselves.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2022 18:32

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Mirificus posted:

Wouldn't it be more effective to simply lower a trawling net from my killer spaceship and dredge the rivers clean?

# ¿ Mar 19, 2022 22:39

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Once river tech is fully implemented, pee tech will be but a short extension thereof.

# ¿ Mar 29, 2022 17:18

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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I wish they would make another Morrowind (or at least something in that spirit of being risky and weird) but Skyrim was an undeniable massive blockbuster so for whatever faults it has you can't blame them for going with what works. I haven't been able to see what it's actually like to play Starfield so who knows, not hyped but am open to being pleasantly surpised.

# ¿ Apr 10, 2022 05:27

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trucutru posted:

Is the five jackets guy still in the game? I still remember a few years ago CIG making a lot of noise about a new latina quest giver and I think she never materialized and that was it for that branch of their subsumption? AI.

They're still working on fleshing out the initial deliverable for the jacket pipeline but as soon as that is complete...

# ¿ Apr 12, 2022 23:28

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Imagine five speculative, pie-in-the-sky game system concepts on the edge of a cliff. As one falls over, it gets replaced by a new one. Star Citizen works the same way.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2022 23:29

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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I think he lost most of his money in speculative investments at some point so this is all trying to get back to where he used to be.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2022 02:26

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Fidelitious posted:

Yeah, I agree that that age is and should be over with. Like you said there was that weird period where it was a thing to put the "auteur's" name on the game and marketing: Sid Meier, American McGee, Peter Molyneux, John Romero, and so forth. And it was always a lie, even in the 90s and 2000s these games had big teams of people.
It went to the heads of some of these guys for sure and they started to think they actually were the geniuses that the marketing portrayed them as. And now a huge number of them have degraded into complete failures. It's kind of incredible what the failure rate is on these modern ventures by old names.

At least Sid is still sane (and retired, hopefully.)

There's definitely truth in what you're saying in that these people didn't program the entire games themselves but for Sid at least having played most if not all of his stuff there's a definite through-line of a basic sense of fun gameplay that I really think he helped create.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2022 18:23

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2022 19:04

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The Titanic posted:

I wish I saw the vision other people see in how they think this is some day going to be like Ready Player One and it will be full of realistic physics and be like living in another real universe.

The amount of work to make this be less jank filled and crumby is astronomical. And that's not even trying to make it this huge mmo either. Just getting the arena part of the game working is an impossible task.

I guess it would be fun to see stuff like this after 10 years of development and not think it's anything short of a complete disaster where every ounce of money just went into the graphics budget (at least what wasn't syphoned off to other things anyhow).

It looks good- but the code and engine and performance. Those are some huge show stopping red flags.

It's OK, now that river tech is fully pipelined and they've moved onto realistic AI bedsheets soon they'll be able to continue development on the basic flight model.

# ¿ May 8, 2022 23:07

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Scruffpuff posted:

I'll give you a real-world parallel I've been dealing with personally for the past few weeks. We have a horrifically inefficient application that's written so poorly it winds up DOSing all of its endpoints. We tasked a developer to fix it, with my assistance, the only rule being "we don't have time to rewrite it." (Any senior developers know, already, where this is going.)

Once we cracked into the code, the labyrinthine arrangement and nonsensical logic, filled with mishandled classes that nevertheless penetrated every corner of the code, incorrectly scoped variables, random use of multiple third-party tools, the usual mess you find when code is on its fifth repair attempt.

In the end, we were able to reduce the outbound connection problems significantly, so from the outside it "looks" fixed. But what we did - what we had to do - to make it work - it is the stuff of developer nightmares. But we had no choice. It's a miracle it works at all, so you compile and release, drink heavily that night, and dread the next special project.

That was a simple application that management didn't have the balls to order a rewrite on. It will eventually go down and sink its dependent apps, and whoever picks up that ball is probably going to put in their notice about 10 minutes after checking in the code.

No matter how good an idea any dev at CIG has, no matter what their experience level, and no matter how dedicated they are, it can't and won't stand against the code base they're getting thrown against. And they can't do the correct thing and rewrite, because funding will end. So they use the word "refactor" liberally (and incorrectly) and work within the adamantite boundaries they're now stuck with.

I want to guess - you wrapped all outbound calls with something like 'generate random number between 0 and 1, abort if < 0.8'

# ¿ May 9, 2022 17:55

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Thoatse posted:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/IncompatibleComplexDutchshepherddog-mobile.mp4

My initial backing on Kickstarter of Star Citizen has already been worth it just from all these cute GIFs.

# ¿ Jun 1, 2022 22:54

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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We're making great progress on the pipeline for the checkerboards and once we manage to get them to stop exploding it should be a matter of just a few years before the complete game of checkers is playable.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2022 23:25

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Star Citizen: Move Slowly and Break Things

# ¿ Jun 15, 2022 20:54

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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4th Stimpire Queen posted:

Pushing a stretcher is still one of the best things you can do in SC.
Don't miss the bonus floating NPC towards the end, that poo poo straight reminds me of Control.

https://v.redd.it/5dwrd2uvmf691/DASH_1080.mp4

Typical, people just can't resist tying themselves in knots looking for reasons to criticize Star Citizen.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2022 04:25

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Buying another Idris to fight against this scurrilous skullduggery.

# ¿ Jun 22, 2022 20:59

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Ah, but you're forgetting that now that the bedsheet pipeline is in place server meshing will be right around the corner!

# ¿ Jul 8, 2022 17:45

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Thoatse posted:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DecimalThoroughCrow-mobile.mp4

Hmm that's a good cobra pose but can he do downward dog?

# ¿ Aug 29, 2022 17:04

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 19:11

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Holy poo poo, PES!

# ¿ Aug 30, 2022 18:36

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