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RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


The problem with Mox right before he went to rehab was he would turn purple when he wrestled.

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Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around

RandolphCarter posted:

The problem with Mox right before he went to rehab was he would turn purple when he wrestled.

Well that is a problem

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Ganso Bomb posted:

I loved how Mox looked before he went to rehab, tbh. I’m glad he got sober obviously but he had a look for a brief time that seemed unique at the time, just looked like a big beefy bruiser who was going to gently caress you up. Felt like a very 70s/80s look.

I wonder what the through-line between Mox's look at the time and the 70s/80s was.

Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around

karmicknight posted:

I wonder what the through-line between Mox's look at the time and the 70s/80s was.

Some mysteries may never be solved. They made a whole show about it!

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Ganso Bomb posted:

Some mysteries may never be solved. They made a whole show about it!

I think I saw that show, it had something to do with stunt grannies.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
I'm not sure if it made him a better wrestler, but David Finlay dropping the skinnyfat weight and getting more cut has directly led to the biggest push of his career so far.

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

Nehru the Damaja posted:

We hear a lot about wrestlers who put on mass and stepped up their game and star power. Omega and Ospreay becoming heavyweights and more complete wrestlers. Swerve now looking like an inevitable world champion. Drew McIntyre going from comedy jobber to world champ.

But who has *lost* a lot of weight and improved their craft and position on the card? To be clear, I'm not talking about fat guys who get in shape (e.g. Akira Tozawa) but more like Ric Flair, who was a huge boy before his back injury forced him to cut down to a more slender frame.

my personal favorite was chase owens showing up at the start of every g1 tour visibly overweight and ending the tour very cut and then going straight back to flabby after a few months

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

ItohRespectArmy posted:

my personal favorite was chase owens showing up at the start of every g1 tour visibly overweight and ending the tour very cut and then going straight back to flabby after a few months

the reverse big show

Answers Me
Apr 24, 2012
If New Japan have such a close working relationship with AEW/ROH, how come Young Lions don’t go on excursion there? Too high profile?

Answers Me fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Mar 25, 2024

SG Bamboo
Aug 21, 2013

Smile. Win. Yay!

Easy answer is AEW has such a big roster that guys on excursion wouldn't get as consistent reps as they would in smaller companies. Leube (and Yuto before he got injured again) is working at least once a week to develop their character which would be far from guaranteed in AEW when they're not household names drawing eyes to a television product

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Dr. Quarex posted:

Jon Moxley going away for a little while in 2021 and coming back looking and performing great when we had not realized he looked bad beforehand immediately comes to mind

the two weeks before he left i was pretty concerned, his last promo had me thinking 'something is wrong'

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!
Young Lions getting wasted in American promotions is how you get Okada, so I see no issue in that.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Young boys need reps more than they need TV exposure, and with no house show tours AEW doesn't have a lot to offer them.

Most of them seem to do better in Mexico anyway.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
I honestly figured for a while Takeshita was there on an excursion, to the point that I was surprised when he signed.

SatoshiMiwa
May 6, 2007


If anything AEW and the lesser used younger talent should be making use of New Japan and CMLL to put in reps. Kinda of shocked some of the talent hasn't asked to go on a month tour of Japan or to work Mexico to get some more seasoning. Top Flight especially could use it especially

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Answers Me posted:

If New Japan have such a close working relationship with AEW/ROH, how come Young Lions don’t go on excursion there? Too high profile?

American visas are a pain in the loving rear end to get for something excursion length.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
It hasn't stopped them, Uemura did TNA and indies and Narita was doing Strong/LA dojo stuff

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Benne posted:

Young boys need reps more than they need TV exposure, and with no house show tours AEW doesn't have a lot to offer them.

Most of them seem to do better in Mexico anyway.

Yeah, back in the day they could come to Memphis or whatever territory and work on the constant house show loops which is a terrible, grueling method but did force them to get good at working in front of the same crowds repeatedly and make sure the fans weren't bored.

EdsTeioh
Oct 23, 2004

PRAY FOR DEATH


Dawgstar posted:

Semi-related: Does anybody remember who would turn the Gory Special into powerbomb?

Kyoko Inoue I'm 99% sure.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
How did Shawn Michaels being a guest ref for Hayabusa vs Gannosuke occur? Did WWE and FMW have an agreement or was Hayabusa just really into Shawn as a worker or something?

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
WWF and FMW did have a relationship, I believe. I'm seeing some mention of Shawn being a replacement for Steve Williams who refused the booking out of loyalty to Baba? And also a suggestion that Shawn asked to get some of his school's students booked with FMW in return, which does seem true as Danielson and Lance Cade did a tag match shortly after.

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

Gaz-L posted:

WWF and FMW did have a relationship, I believe. I'm seeing some mention of Shawn being a replacement for Steve Williams who refused the booking out of loyalty to Baba? And also a suggestion that Shawn asked to get some of his school's students booked with FMW in return, which does seem true as Danielson and Lance Cade did a tag match shortly after.

yep. there were plans for the TWA students to start doing ECW shows right up until they stopped running shows, along with wanting to book (if you believe heyman) Samoa Joe and Low Ki

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


You should not believe Paul Heyman, imo

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

forkboy84 posted:

You should not believe Paul Heyman, imo

I remember Paul E saying he wanted Misawa/Kobashi for that Heatwave '98 tag vs. Sabu/RVD, and hooooo boy that would have been a different match.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


C. Everett Koop posted:

I remember Paul E saying he wanted Misawa/Kobashi for that Heatwave '98 tag vs. Sabu/RVD, and hooooo boy that would have been a different match.

I remember Paul Heyman picking up the phone pretending to be his room-mate, in case anyone was calling him chasing money.

Honestly, any of the Between The Sheets Patreon specials on ECW inevitably end up full of amazing Paul bullshittery, either to the sheets, to his own wrestlers, to TV partners, or anyone else with a pulse.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

He also had that story about how he learned he was being run out of WWECW by pretending to hang up on a conference call and then just listening on the line

DeathChicken fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Mar 31, 2024

The Grey
Mar 2, 2004

DeathChicken posted:

He also had that story about how he learned he was being run out of WWECW by pretending to hang up on a conference call and then just listening on the line

I heard him tell that on Austin's podcast and Austin responded with "You really are a piece of work".

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Wasn't there also a story that he lost his job in charge of Smackdown earlier in the decade because he was listening into Raw conference calls that he wasn't meant to be on or something equally dumb?

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




forkboy84 posted:

Wasn't there also a story that he lost his job in charge of Smackdown earlier in the decade because he was listening into Raw conference calls that he wasn't meant to be on or something equally dumb?

Yeah he’d been pretending to hang up and then staying on the line or something.

I feel like there was also a time he told that story and tried to spin it even further with “and the sick part was I wasn’t even listening in when they ‘caught’ me I just genuinely forgot to hang up” but it’s been a while and I might be mixing up Heyman bullshit stories.

Edit: I was close

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2014/05/paul-heyman-talks-to-steve-austin-about-wwe-firing-in-2004-576087/

History Comes Inside! fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Mar 31, 2024

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

History Comes Inside! posted:

Yeah he’d been pretending to hang up and then staying on the line or something.

Imagining Heyman just saying very loudly "CLICK!" and setting the receiver down.

The Grey
Mar 2, 2004

History Comes Inside! posted:

Yeah he’d been pretending to hang up and then staying on the line or something.

I feel like there was also a time he told that story and tried to spin it even further with “and the sick part was I wasn’t even listening in when they ‘caught’ me I just genuinely forgot to hang up” but it’s been a while and I might be mixing up Heyman bullshit stories.

Edit: I was close

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2014/05/paul-heyman-talks-to-steve-austin-about-wwe-firing-in-2004-576087/

That part that I never understood... What's the problem with the Smackdown booker listening in on a Raw booking meeting?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


The Grey posted:

That part that I never understood... What's the problem with the Smackdown booker listening in on a Raw booking meeting?

It's a company run by a psychopath and fail children, probably explains it

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

The Grey posted:

That part that I never understood... What's the problem with the Smackdown booker listening in on a Raw booking meeting?

Kayfabe, sibling! These shows are constantly at war with each other, gotta protect their secrets from each other.

Joey McChrist
Aug 8, 2005

The Grey posted:

That part that I never understood... What's the problem with the Smackdown booker listening in on a Raw booking meeting?

vince is so horny for competition he forces it upon his employees and children

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
Question about a silly spot idea: Has anyone ever clotheslined/lariated someone off of a bike? I'm a pedestrian in my city and need to live out some of the Thoughts I have about some cyclists vicariously.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Grendels Dad posted:

Question about a silly spot idea: Has anyone ever clotheslined/lariated someone off of a bike? I'm a pedestrian in my city and need to live out some of the Thoughts I have about some cyclists vicariously.

I feel like this has to have happened in DDT, possibly involving Kota Ibushi.

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!

Grendels Dad posted:

Question about a silly spot idea: Has anyone ever clotheslined/lariated someone off of a bike? I'm a pedestrian in my city and need to live out some of the Thoughts I have about some cyclists vicariously.

(very awkward spot until the clothesline part at the end)
((well that's kind of awkward as well, but Kota falling on his head is expected))
https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1724981235812835694

Kennel fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Apr 4, 2024

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Kennel posted:

(very awkward spot until the clothesline part at the end)
((well that's kind of awkward as well, but Kota falling on his head is expected))
https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1724981235812835694

Yesss, just what I needed! Thank you!

Grendels Dad fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Apr 4, 2024

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.
I wonder if Kota is just up for anything someone pitches to him or if he comes up with these ideas himself and gets others to go along with it.

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The D in Detroit
Oct 13, 2012
well it would require Kota to know what a bike is so I'm not too sure

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