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I just found out that the dude who played Luca Brasi in the Godfather was a wrestler (and possibly also a for real made man). Anyone know anything about him or his prograps career?
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2019 02:02 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 05:26 |
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I believe it's worked shoot-style matches a la UWFi or the like. So lots of grapplefucking and MMA-esque striking.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2019 18:41 |
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karmicknight posted:This is a pretty accurate understanding. The Bloodsport shows started as basically an excuse to watch Matt Riddle shoot on Low-Ki, only when Low-Ki dropped out to prevent his own embarrassment Minoru Suzuki was brought in to complete the feel of the show as a love letter to the UWFi worked shoot-style. After Riddle got locked in the fed GCW tapped Josh Barnett as the go-to lover of both the English language and UWFi. Also Low-Ki tried to get the promoter to pay him despite having dropped out of the show and presumably having to give MiSu a pretty hefty payday on short notice.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2019 20:24 |
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forkboy84 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifolC4Nt140 Literally 4 posts up, dude.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2019 16:49 |
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I recall his match with Taker at WM being surprisingly watchable for early in the Streak.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2019 01:29 |
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There's basically only 2 ways to really sell a hair vs hair stip for a heel. The Roberts/Angle 'it totally grew back see!" where they're bald for 7 times longer than it would really take for it to grow out. Or the Minoru Suzuki "here's your fuckin' hair shitlord now piss off" way.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2019 16:11 |
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Plus it was the best reverse then full GTR combo I've ever seen Goto do. It literally looked like we witnessed a murder.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2019 19:12 |
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ChrisBTY posted:Weren't both the Angle and Big Show hair v hair matches just to cover up that they were going bald? That is why you do a hair match, yes. Or if you're sick of having long hair at 40.
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2019 21:10 |
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The Hollywood Blonds becoming part of the Horsemen would've been a really smart way to keep the group relevant in the mid-90s and could've been used to springboard Austin and Pillman up the card... if Hogan, Dusty et al actually wanted to push new talent.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2019 01:24 |
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Ziggler's more because Nick Nemeth is like a cargo cult for Shawn Michaels.
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2019 20:54 |
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STONE COLD 64 posted:[Doubt] No need to say such awful things about YTR's mother, Detective Phelps.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2019 22:48 |
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Cain Velasquez has a good shout as well.
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2019 01:21 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:Owens has a friendly relationship with Austin and has been wanting to use the stunner in WWE for a while before he started using it. Austin gave him his blessing as long as he did it right It's also bizarre because everything about Becky's character and storyline screamed 'use stunner as finish' but then KO started doing it so she's doing a weird uranage and they're trying to make her into the Rock instead.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2019 19:47 |
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Goddamnit, that gif just made me laugh so hard I can't breathe
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2019 02:56 |
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Incidentally, nothing makes it clearer that JR and Excalibur are calling that match in post than JR getting the name of that move correct.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2019 02:11 |
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To be fair, there is an element of self-awareness necessary if you're thinking about it for the purpose of learning your taste in a new hobby. Like, absolutely just watch a show and decide if you like it, but then maybe ask yourself what you liked ABOUT it, and why. Was it the presentation, was it a particular wrestler, or a certain kind of move or match, was it a promo... and then that can give you a grounding to explore more. But yes, it's similar to music or books or TV. Watch/read/listen to thing, figure out why you liked thing, ask people who know about thing if they can tell you where to find other things similar to thing you liked.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2019 02:22 |
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TheCool69 posted:I guess this is the right time and place to ask this, but somehow i dont get all the complaining people do when someone signs a contract . On top of everything people have said, it actually can make people worse. Lack of ring time and WWE's narrow view of what 'working properly' is being drummed into wrestlers who absolutely do not work that style can result in regression. Especially when resisting the indoctrination like Chris Hero or Buddy Murphy (or Seth Rollins) can get you a reputation as 'unteachable'. And at the end of the day, wrestlers are performers. Ask any friend you have who's been in a band or done acting if they'd have been happy to sign a deal with a major label/studio to sit in a green room not performing. Sure, the money's nice, but never getting to do the thing you're good at can be incredibly demoralising. You see it with guys like EC3 and Mike Bennett.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2019 21:35 |
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Low Desert Punk posted:what's going on with ICW these days? i kept up with it and PROGRESS like three years ago when the scene was hot before the NXT UK deal. i remember hearing talk that they might have to shut down since lionheart died Hastened the death of the UK indy scene so Mark Dallas could show his pals the 2 texts Triple H sent him 3 years ago.
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 21:50 |
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Vince has a very specific idea of what a good match is, so if that was what was on, I imagine he'd watch and enjoy. Vince Russo is the one I'm not sure actually likes wrestling as much as lovely bigoted melodrama.
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 22:45 |
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LividLiquid posted:Shut the gently caress up. No way! Sting got it from the inventor, Riki Choshu
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2019 03:50 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:What caused the rift that resulted in Janela leaving CZW? Money? I believe the promoter tried to hardball the talent into not working for other groups in the area, which includes GCW which Janela is heavily involved with.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2019 01:52 |
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I don't know if Brock would go to the other corner, simply because he's about as WWE a product as you're gonna get. Trained in OVW (which is basically a studio show) and then basically only WWE except for the cup of coffee in New Japan.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2019 23:05 |
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NJPW also put up a free match every week on Monday both on World and on their YouTube channel. It's usually a marquee match from a few years ago, so it's a good way to take the temperature of if the product is for you.
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# ¿ Oct 28, 2019 23:15 |
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2019 Tomohiro Ishii This is also my answer to any 'who would you want to see wrestle X' fantasy question. Yes, including when X = Ishii.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2019 03:48 |
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jesus WEP posted:They had a really good match at Rev Pro a couple of years ago I know! I watched on New Japan World but it's not up anymore. It was so good despite them only doing lik 5 moves the whole match.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2019 14:45 |
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Has Wade Keller ever been asked/addressed why the Torch is like the only dirtsheet/site that ignores anything outside North America unless they're basically forced to? Like Dave is always at least aware of Mexico and obvious keeps an eye on Japan even beyond NJPW, but even PWInsider the odd time I glance at it has results from New Japan or Triple A.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2019 01:30 |
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TheCool69 posted:I'm dying at that Michael Cole line about Malenko. The truly bizarre thing is that it's from Chris Benoit vs The Great Sasuke of all things, as I recall.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2019 00:09 |
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I'd argue late-era Mankind and regular Mick were basically the same as well.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2019 20:17 |
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MassRafTer posted:Rapping Cena and Fruity Pebbles Cena were pretty much as distinct as Foley's gimmicks. They were all the same dude. Honorable mention to IWGP champions Keiji Mutoh and The Great Muta (because I laugh every time they run the champion rollcall and count them as separate)
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2019 23:34 |
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Maxwell Lord posted:So with most promos/interviews/etc. in WWE being pre-scripted, how much rehearsal time do the wrestlers have on average? Because some of the typical stiffness of them feels like "we barely had time to learn these lines", but also they probably are expected to stick to the exact wording as much as possible. And apart from maybe some of the "sets" I don't see a lot of places for prompters or whatever. And let's assume for the moment we're talking about an episode where Vince didn't rewrite everything fifteen minutes ahead of time. Maybe a couple of hours, and during that you also need to go over your match if you're working that night.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2019 00:22 |
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Thank you friend, hopefully this will force him to actually learn their names rather than just shouting "Everyone's Dad" for Tully and "Everyone's Daddy" for Arn ...why would you want him to stop that?
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2019 01:12 |
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Impossible, that would involve Trump implying a non-white person is competent.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2019 15:30 |
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I spent five minutes looking for that gif of Show shaking his fist in impotent, hilarious fury, and couldn't find it, as a result of that comparison
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2019 00:05 |
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I 100% promise you Finlay was not the one getting the win after LIJ was a thing.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2019 00:34 |
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And let you do stuff like 'wrestler will be fined $100 per punch thrown' so the crowd gets to pop when the babyface is so mad they willingly spend a bunch of money to beat up the heel.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2019 02:11 |
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The Lord of Hats posted:So, I’ve only really gotten into wrestling hard with AEW (I previously watched the first two seasons of LU), and I’ve been listening to a shitlod of wrestling retrospective stuff at work to pass time. Which is, naturally, a very different perspective from having watched live. Basically the promos and charisma, plus being booked incredibly strongly. (partly due to the ego and politicking, partly because his overness dictated it) Hogan was absolutely NOT a good worker. He could work a particular style of match and sometimes, when it was the right storyline, it could get over huge, but even the infamous 'he worked harder in New Japan' claims are exaggerating. He's fine, but unspectacular, mostly getting over because he shoot KO'ed Antonio Inoki on accident.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 02:27 |
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FunMerrania posted:I remember Dreamer was doing them as his finisher while he was in the wwe. This is a lie. You need to win matches for a move to be your finish.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 22:11 |
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Bryan is one of the people that's a big enough star that he'll have some leeway to improv.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2019 12:49 |
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:A tiny handful get creative control over most of their promos, Bryan and I think Bray being the obvious ones Cue flashback to Twitter morons and Vince (via Cole) ranting about Bryan's lack of charisma and promo ability.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2019 16:25 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 05:26 |
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Suzuki had Tanahashi in a kneebar for like 6 minutes when he won the IWGP IC title.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2019 21:33 |