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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

TriffTshngo posted:

Here's a REAL Wrestling Question for all you chads and staceys out there.

Which one of Chuck Taylor's terrible wrestler names would you use in your NXT debut?

Scoot Tatum
"This Is:" Howie DeWitt
"Raw Dog" Rick Beanbag
Pudd Nelson
Cuba Gooding III
Boomer Scarborough
"No Gimmicks Needed" Steve the Samurai
The Cucumber
Buster Norbert
"Powercat" Jeff Winslow
"The Human Thermometer" Pat Joplin
Frank "Grab-rear end" Hernandez
"New in town" Luke Wilcox
Danny "Double Dip" Dawkins
Adrian "Dill" Picklesby
"The Midnight Oil" Barney Stamp
Oh no, I can't say that one out loud
Bugg Nevans
Bareback Benny Figg
"Cool Dad" Don Crenshaw (reserved for Adam Cole)
"Space Homie" Mike Smith
"Pro Bowler" Benji "Ball Return" Roberts
"Crooked Dick" Johnny Hogg
Dick "The Hammer" Dick
"All Sack" Drew Gulak
"Handjob" Dave Handerson
"Six Dicks Deep" David O'Neil
"Solar System Specialist" Steve Baker
"Long Haul" Lenny Broadway
Jeff "The Tit" Baker
Lemuel "Little Baby Dong" Denver
Mick "The Kraken" McCracken
"Hard Wood" Rich Mahogany
"The Incubator" Steve McGillicutty

Hard Wood Rich Mahogany is a winner

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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

AlmightyPants posted:

Dear god, these are all great! What's the source for them? I'm actually crying from laughing so hard.

Chuck would talk about them on poppin' dogs and talkin' hogs

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Gavok posted:

He also used a bunch of them in Chikara for a time. Back in 2015 he was hyping yet another BS retirement tour. When the 2016 season started, he was pretty much told, "No, you said you were retiring. You gave up the rights to the Chuck Taylor name. Somebody else already picked it up." So Stokely Hathaway made his debut in Chikara as R&B singer Chuck Taylor TM while the original had to start calling himself other names.

Apparently, just losing his name caused Orange Cassidy to no longer physically recognize him.

Then Chuck and Dustin were a tag team for a while

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

CityMidnightJunky posted:

Maybe once at like 3am for about an hour when every other wrestler in the world was either asleep or passed out. Then I guess technically his post is correct.

Whoosh

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Jerusalem posted:

I think a writer pitched that the guy who eventually became Heidenreich would be a frozen Nazi from World War II who gets unfrozen and decided to become a wrestler.

I think part of the pitch was that he'd also be managed by Heyman, to ratchet up the offensivness

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Aphrodite posted:

The pregnancy has resulted in way more TV time for Mike than he was getting, so maybe she's just a genius.

This feels especially poetic since WWE wasn't shy about portraying her as a ditz

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Jarrett is a much much better wrestler, and I agree JJ ain't all that good, he's thoroughly average at best

But James is the worst wrestler I've ever seen who didn't have being green or being immobile due to size like Khali as an excuse

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

ItohRespectArmy posted:

JJ had really good punches tbf. Shane is also a horrible wrestler

He also sells reasonably well, or did before TNA (at which point he sold like a parody of Hogan)

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Edge & Christian posted:

Is there a single The Cat segment or promo that wouldn't have been better if he was replaced by Ernest P. Worrell?

Seems unfair to compare since Jim Varney was classically trained and did Shakespeare regularly between Ernest stuff

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
So was Paul Roma really as bad people claim? I know a lot of it stems from not fitting in with the Horsemen, but putting Sid in there was loving stupid, too (in the sense that he didn't need them).

Incidentally the story of what happened with Roma on the Horsemen DVD WWE made is pretty funny, in an insanely petty sort of way: apparently, The Horsemen actually were complimentary initially, then were told Roma poo poo talked them, and they re-filmed the scenes with AA and Flair burying him.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Randaconda posted:

Paul was a terrible Horseman, but he was an alright low midcarder, I guess.

I wish Austin had found his way into the Horsemen somehow. :smith:

Stunning Steve would have been perfect fit

Grain of salt because I don't remember the source, but there was supposedly an angle in the works shortly before Austin got buried after Hogan showed up, where Steve was supposed to be Flair's illegitimate son.

I think it was supposed to be a Flair vs Austin feud beginning, though, not with Steve joining the crew.

Greg Valentine also claims he was offered to be a Horseman, which actually sorta makes sense considering how close Flair and him are and how close Flair was to Greg's dad Johnny.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

LividLiquid posted:

Hogan constantly pushing his buddies wouldn't have been so bad if his buddies were actual good wrestlers or performers in any way whatsoever, but the people who get de-pushed in favor of them were mostly all time greats, which makes it that much worse.

I don't hate Jim Duggan but Austin jobbing a belt to him is a loving crime, especially since Duggan was loving cooked at that point

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

TriffTshngo posted:

When Pillman's worked shoot turned shoot shoot firing angle was getting super hot Hogan wanted him to be more involved in the Dungeon of Doom/Four Horsemen vs Mega Powers feud specifically so he (Hogan) could pin him (Pillman).

Then Brian used the ol' noodle and said he was still too hurt

Admiral Joeslop posted:

Has Flair ever refused to work with someone, or put them over? I know there was a small feud between him and Foley but they've since buried that hatchet.

After a match in TNA that should never have happened.

He refused to drop the world strap to Luger at one point, I believe

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

lost my old email posted:

why do i know zigglers shoot name why was that in my brain?

He used it on WWE TV when he was Chavo's caddy, I think

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Pope Corky the IX posted:

I wasn't watching wrestling for most of Santino's run, so what the gently caress was the Honk-O-Meter?

HTM is the longest reigning IC champion and Santino wanted to surpass his run

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Dolph Ziggler was also pretty successful (1 loss in 4 years)

Matt Riddle would be another obvious one

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Sep 26, 2019

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Randaconda posted:

According to Bret's book, yes.

(I'm pretty sure it was Bret's book, it might have been a random old Observer)

Sounds like something from Martha Hart's book possibly, too

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Defiance Industries posted:

What's the one that had to be pulled from stores because it was hella libelous?

Martha's, hence my guess!

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Halloween Jack posted:

Every male wrestler is a drunk, a drug addict, a steroid abuser, a violent psychopath, and worst of all, gay. Every female wrestler is a drug addict and even worse, a slut. That about sums up the list, last time I checked.

You forgot pedophilia for the male wrestlers but otherwise accurate

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

What is the worst match, in hindsight, to get five stars from Big Dave

Raven and Stevie vs the Pitbulls

It's a great bit of booking because it ties a ton of storylines together really cohesively but the match itself is sloppy as gently caress, although it's not bad, but it sure ain't 5 stars

Conversely, Dave hosed up by not giving Danielson vs Morishima in a Fight Without Honor 5, IMO

I also think Guerrero vs Lesnar should have gotten 5

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

I just don't see how it isn't 5, unless Goldberg's run in bothers Dave that much. Its REALLY well played out, has a compelling story, Brock takes 2 crazy bumps considering he was still around 300 lbs at the time, and the right guy went over.

If you were just correcting me, I know Dave didn't give it 5. Hence my complaint.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Aesop Poprock posted:

I think Lawler’s wrestled at least a couple matches a year since 1970 and is still going

Ricky Morton maybe, too

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Ganso Bomb posted:

It definitely has its moments of circus activity, like Patterson, Brisco, and one of Godfather's ladies (didn't she turn out to be Victoria or someone like that) all becoming champions in goofy ways backstage.

You also had less silly stuff, too, like Raven as champion and the amazing 3-way match with Kane and Big Show at Mania.

Or Raven's match with Rhino at Backlash.

Rosd Dogg was also a pretty good champ, he had some fun matches as the champ

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Oct 9, 2019

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Aesop Poprock posted:

I think he just got lumped into being a weak comedic heel for too long and nobody was really interested in him when he tried to turn serious much later on. His best roles were easily Ravens lackey in ECW and the leader of RTC and outside of that he didn’t really have much character to support him

He also had a bad habit of getting hurt at bad times. Paul was supposedly going to put the ECW title on Stevie, then Stevie broke his neck....and signed with WCW for money reasons when he got healthy.....then got fired by WCW after he got re-injured.

Then WWECW was gonna push him as an underdog face and he got hurt again. I've always had a soft spot for him, does chickenshit heel really well, good promo, throws a hell of a superkick and used to be a GREAT bumper.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

shiksa posted:

jesus gently caress I cant wait for crow cody

We can probably rule out Stardust being his alternate

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

LividLiquid posted:

I feel so terrible for both him and that little kid who kept yelling "Let's gooooo CeeeeeeNaaaaaaah" the whole match.

Poor kids. They're the best wrestling fans, but sometimes you have to watch them get their hearts broken and it's so sad.

One of the best parts of indy shows is kids interacting with heels

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

TriffTshngo posted:

will chuck taylor ever get the chance to scream at children in aew, i hope so

One of the best things I've ever seen at wrestling show was little kids throwing a bag of popcorn at Chase Owens, and Chase Owens selling for it like it was simultaneously the worst indignity he'd ever suffered, and also, like it was a stiff forearm or something. One of the reasons I always stick up for him, because I think stuff like that demonstrates that Chase understands that you can get over big by showing rear end and making people want to hate you rather than being a cool heel, but at the same time you don't need to pull a Rockin' Rebel and get cheap heat through racism

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Davros1 posted:

Hardyz are famous for this

There's a match where Jeff does the job for Waylon Mercy and Jeff barely looks old enough to drive. Mercy just loving annihilates him with a brainbuster at one point.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

TheKingslayer posted:

Was it Funk that called Dusty an "egg sucking son of a whore"? Because that poo poo still makes me laugh.

Egg sucking dog was the usual insult

TheKingslayer posted:

gently caress if I can remember but there's the one promo where he offers his daddy's watch to someone even though he hates them so they'll tag together. Terry Funk is the poo poo.

Lawler, I think

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Pope Corky the IX posted:

That reminds me of Survivor Series 1990 when the Undertaker was supposed to be a surprise mystery man that nobody but Dibiase and Brother Love knew about, and then Gorilla yells "TOMBSTONE!!" when Taker hits it the very first time.

The tombstone had been around a while in wrestling, just nobody in NWA or WWE used it

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
What caused the rift that resulted in Janela leaving CZW? Money?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Here I was thinking the lyrics were "WIGGA WUG WHOOGA WUG" on repeat, in between "TEST, THIS IS A TEST"

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Kvantum posted:

BR Live in the US or Canada, and Fite.tv elsewhere around the world

Fite in Canada, too

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Hellblazer187 posted:

I have no idea if this is legitimately true, but I've heard and seen in comic books that if you put a roll of coins in your hand it's almost like a brass knuckle effect if you punch someone. Has anyone in wrestling used that as a spot? It seems like it could be similar to a brass knucks spot, but then you could gimmick the roll of quarters to make coins spray everywhere and have a bigger visual.

Socks full of quarters have been used (most recently for a great visual with Corino braining BJ Whitmer) but I don't think what you've described has

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

dialhforhero posted:

In a “The Best Sign” competition you must also include “Roman Reigns is a holocaust denier”

Titty Master or GTFO

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
I really liked Cole's call of Eddie winning the title

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Pope Corky the IX posted:

Wasn't the tweet something like "REAL WRESTLERS WORK HURT - HH" within minutes of Edge's live retirement speech?

Lol, Edge has taken bumps that Hogan would NEVER take. The leg drop THROUGH a ladder. The side effect off a stage through a table. The ladder spear which was probably murder for both Edge AND Jeff Hardy. The nutty bumps in that NO DQ match with Eddie Guerrero.

Someone with time should make a thread about all the hosed up things Hogan has done and said. Like an individual NY 64.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

GEORGE W BUSHI posted:

Nothing, he did it pre-emptively because he thought he might end up saying something stupid.

Huh. Self-awareness. Good for him, better to stay silent and risk being thought of as a fool, then to post infowars and remove all doubt.

I think it was Jefferson who said that...

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

ChrisBTY posted:

I suddenly feel the need to watch 1989 Scott Steiner wrestle Ken Anderson.

Not into snuff films, personally

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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
In fairness the very idea of being a King is kind of a heelish concept

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