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Ok. Now I keep hearing that Maria and Mike Kanellis took Vince for a ride to the tune of 500k/year. is that their combined contracts or each?
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2019 13:02 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 15:05 |
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I still think 'grift' is relative in this context if MRT stating that WWE only shared about 8% of it's profits with the workers (not even taking into account stuff like travel). More like 'they are making money closer to what they deserve relative to the success of the company' is accurate. (Which I think he based on the Observer...this is back during the big New York 64 podcast)
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2019 13:36 |
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I don't remember Mick having a problem with any Maria. I also don't know how many other Marias are in wrestling.
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# ¿ Sep 18, 2019 16:28 |
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shiksa posted:lol what the gently caress is this, does this guy own this rinky dink company? thats the only thing that possibly makes sense. That is exactly what is happening here. Related: Is there a worse professional wrestler than Beau James? Dude makes Khali look like Vader.
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# ¿ Sep 20, 2019 17:36 |
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The only way in which JJ is worse than Beau James is scale. And I say this as somebody who really, really is not a fan of Jarrett. Also: I'm not sure it's actually possible to look worse in the ring than Beau James. I'm a 300 lb 40 year old man with a damaged motor due to multiple bouts of pneumonia as a child, Juvenile Rheumatoid arthritis and absolutely no sort of wrestling experience whatsoever and I can say I could probably put on a better match than Beau James. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Sep 20, 2019 |
# ¿ Sep 20, 2019 17:47 |
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Halloween Jack posted:Beau James is, objectively, a terrible wrestler. But somebody asked "Hey, does anybody have that video of that wrestling move Beau James did?" and someone else answered with a quickness. Being so terrible that people consider you a spectacle makes you the opposite of better than anybody. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Sep 20, 2019 |
# ¿ Sep 20, 2019 18:59 |
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Defiance Industries posted:Wow HBK is an incredible wrestler to pull off a carry like that. HBK wrestled other workers that year. Those didn't get 4 snowflakes and change. Oh, and Jarrett's WCW character was just the drizzling dogshits. We talk about how the nWo was a bunch of 40 year old trying to be hip and cool and with it. They succeeded. Jarrett failed. He failed so goddamn hard. He failed at being cool and hip and with it almost as bad as Beau James failed to apply an armbar. In hindsight all of his Slapnuts poo poo was top shelf "Hello fellow kids" bullshit. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Sep 20, 2019 |
# ¿ Sep 20, 2019 20:54 |
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Weren't both the Angle and Big Show hair v hair matches just to cover up that they were going bald?
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2019 20:30 |
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MassRafTer posted:I hated it less than NECW. Is this just because of the strike you got on your youtube. Because NECW was bad, but SSW was utterly irredeemable. Satan will have trouble fabricating a shittier wrestling show than that to torment me for all eternity when I inevitably go to hell. There are backyard feds with better workers than SSW. In fact I think every backyard fed has better workers than SSW.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2019 03:54 |
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Who was the most popular maskless luchadore ever? Or luchadores if there isn't a clear consensus like El Santo.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2019 19:44 |
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I'm not really the guy either but I will at least give a TL:DR version so you arn't in the dark. Sting and Luger are two performers whose careers seemed to intermingle endlessly, like Hogan and Savage or Cena and Orton. Sting and Luger were frequently shown as being best friends even though Luger was always a shifty rear end in a top hat who could turn heel at any second even as a face and Sting was a consummate goody-goody. It hit a head right before the NWO started with Sting and Luger being in a tag team where Luger would play the nice guy to Sting's face and immediately shift in heel mode whenever Sting turned his back. It is an almost 1:1 parallel between MJF and Cody.
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2019 08:22 |
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Headcanon: MJF will never over the course of his career betray Cody. Just because that NEVER happens in wrestling.
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2019 09:37 |
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I sincerely doubt Cody wears face paint ever again
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# ¿ Oct 11, 2019 23:30 |
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How many times did Lawler wind up punching Bockwinkel in the match?
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# ¿ Oct 15, 2019 11:49 |
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TriffTshngo posted:I think you could easily rehab Braun at this point. They won't, obviously, but he hasn't quite hit Big Show or Kane levels of damaged yet. They won't rehab Braun. They want him to be their new Big Show/Kane. As much as we grew to hate their niche they were both the booking equivalent of a USB cable. Plug em into anything and it worked, albeit not as well as we'd like. They miss that and they need that. Even booked well a monster can't be a monster forever. My hot take is that Big Show was simply too versatile a character (if not a wrestler) to be pidgeonholed into the "monster" role.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2019 00:14 |
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This all having been said: If WWE still put out DVDs they would have a hell of a time filling out a 'Big Show's best matches' DVD. I don't blame him though. Hotter Take: Big Show had the potential to be an all time great if he were smaller and could go all-out during matches. There's only so much you can do with your body when you're that big. I mean the dude tried (this vid didn't show the 20 seconds it took show to get to the top rope) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7RTE6rE_Bg
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2019 09:05 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:I mean WWE in 2019 is so dire I don’t even think you could accuse people of wearing rose tinted glasses if they said they preferred the endless pointless goofy angles Show was involved in Monsters in WWE exist to be immediately vanquished. Like Big Show in 2012 when he spent a month terrorizing everybody after turning heel at a PPV only to be defeated by John Cena the show after. (To their credit I think it was Cena + 4 other guys for once, but he still lost) Or you know...The Fiend. Or Kane when he fought the Undertaker for the first time...and lost. Oh but before we leave the Cena track. Hell if I'm watching WWE right now but I think I'd rather have Seth poopoo and peepee himself then the John Cena "HOW WILL HE OVERCOME THESE OD...oh he just did. Let me at least finish the drat question John" ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Oct 18, 2019 |
# ¿ Oct 18, 2019 09:49 |
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jesus WEP posted:He’s been waiting 13 years for the perfect moment to deploy the greatest idea he’s heard in his entire life From out in the hallway you hear "MOTHERFUCKER WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT! GOD drat MOTHER FUCKER GET IT TOGETHER VINCE" Then he walks back inside and says nothing else about it. And never uses the gimmick because he can't handle it existing and not being his idea. And then Heidenreich wrote poems. The end.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2019 14:20 |
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Scott Steiner. The perfect storm of 'ridiculously athletic' and 'ridiculously ridiculous'
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2019 22:13 |
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If I had to guess I'd say yes. Funk has a...way with insults.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2019 22:54 |
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Does AEW have conventional heel/face dynamics? The Inner Circle/MJF/probably Lucha Bros are heels but everybody else is on a sliding scale where their heelness is depending on the story they're telling, like Best Friends against SCU or the Bucks against Private Party.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2019 04:50 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Not TNA, but the still from that Australian tour used in the Grantland article header is one of the saddest things I've ever seen in wrestling. Just a tired Ric Flair covered in blood gasping at a tired Hulk Hogan covered in blood. This article seems to put all the blame of everything Flair went through on Flair. Which given what we know about his relationship with WCW is probably not fair. But even if you're being fair, Ric Flair is Peter Pan but this isn't Neverland.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2019 13:41 |
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Brock Lesnar. If the dude's neck wasn't thicker than his head he probably would have broken it.
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2019 07:13 |
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Arn't his old money neighbors dead by now? Or is he getting shade thrown at him by their children? I will at least take some small comfort in knowing that Old Money Senpai will never notice Vincent Kennedy McMahon.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2019 20:00 |
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I also love (read: hate) that once you hit super rich status Toil Culture inverts. You earned your money? Ewwwwwww.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2019 20:19 |
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Vader vs Brian Danielson Or really anybody who doesn't know the difference between a worked punch and a shoot punch vs Brian Danielson. One big potato and suddenly he's signing his checks "Daniel Bryan"
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2019 14:29 |
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The Cole Mine just the worst goddamn thing. You can't be having a heel doing their heel schtick for nearly every minute of a 3 hour weekly show
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2019 20:40 |
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harperdc posted:It’s almost unidentifiable as Cole commentary, it’s incredibly clear that Cole had to wake up that early to do the show from the East Coast but there was no way Vince was going to. Are we positive Vince sleeps though?
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2019 14:29 |
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Jerusalem posted:It's impossible Cue Brock throwing Big Show around the way Big Show throws Rey around
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2019 04:45 |
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Over the course of their careers did Randy Savage EVER beat Hulk Hogan by pinfall? Did Savage ever beat Hogan period?
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2019 07:39 |
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I would be royally pitying Savage right now except for the whole 'chronic spousal abuse' thing.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2019 07:51 |
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Hulk Hogan losing a match by pinfall or submission is a holiday in some countries. Mali celebrates 'Undertaker Day' every year on November 27th.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2019 08:23 |
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I can't imagine a polygraph would work on Hogan very well since I don't think he so much 'lies' as 'has lost all grasp on reality'
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2019 09:14 |
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Wait, this Juice Robinson fellow the boards wax poetic about was that hippie dude from nXt. (not Daniel Bryan, the other one) People reinventing themselves after leaving that company is a trip.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2019 16:28 |
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Hogan also did an amazing job playing to the crowd and selling his opponent's offense when it was 'convince the crowd the heel has his number' time. He also came along exactly when Vince McMahon needed him to change the landscape of wrestling. Although Hogan's 'brash, strong face who doesn't always play by the rules and isn't above beating the bad guys at their own game' schtick wasn't exactly groundbreaking (Lawler was doing the same thing in Memphis but he'd never have Hogan's genetic gifts) it still resonated with crowds that were starting to tire of playing nice.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 06:56 |
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I suddenly feel the need to watch 1989 Scott Steiner wrestle Ken Anderson.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 21:05 |
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Over the course of the attitude era there were at least half a dozen spinal fusion surgeries performed on top stars. Austin, Benoit, the entirety of team RECK (and also Test). It was becoming an epidemic so WWE decided to mostly nix any move that could create spinal compression.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 23:09 |
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Imagine Dragons is less 'bad' (they can actually be pretty decent) and more 'overexposed mediocrity masquerading as greatness'. Like Nickelback before them.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2019 03:05 |
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The only casket match I know of that hasn't involved the Undertaker was Fenix/Mil Muertes from Lucha Underground. ...Holy poo poo Darby Allin could become the new casket match guy. He's already up to body bags. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Dec 9, 2019 |
# ¿ Dec 9, 2019 10:37 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 15:05 |
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The only thing I understand about Nick Gage is that I do not understand Nick Gage. He may have one of the world's most fascinating minds. Wait, I also understand that I find him scary as hell.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2019 19:04 |