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The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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Cavauro posted:

don't know if this helps but you could try spelling it in all the different ways you can come up with. i searched Booblelu Glanna and it came up with a few pornography links. keep on trucking

Can I get those links? Just to make sure I avoid them in my search of course.

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The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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TriffTshngo posted:

Wasn't he always regarded as a really good talent early on, pre-Goldust? I remember a lot of wrestlers saying Dustin totally lived up to his nickname at the time, "The Natural," he just had the issue of... y'know, having virtually no charisma, made even more apparent by being associated with his insanely charismatic dad.

Was there ever anyone with a blue chipper gimmick who got it over/showed a ton of charisma?

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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Pope Corky the IX posted:

Tony and Bobby hated one another, and the former usually knew what was going to happen while keeping the latter in the dark.

But Bobby was also smart enough to figure it out. I still love when Hogan came out as the third man and Bobby is yelling “but who’s side is he on?” While everyone else dismissed him.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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The ones that sprung to mind are Cutters and Stunners.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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Red posted:



King of the Ring 2001: Kurt Angle vs. Shane McMahon - Street Fight

The buildup to this match was kind of odd, if I remember right. Basically, Kurt Angle was competing in the King of the Ring while trying to settle a feud with Shane McMahon, who had announced WCW was coming soon. Shane, at this point, hadn't really wrestled before, if I recall correctly. So, he used the KotR tournament to his advantage: he tried to prolong Angle's tournament matches against Christian and Edge. His interference helped Edge win the crown, so, rightfully, Angle comes into their match pissed off. The Street Fight angle was presumably used to cover Shane's non-wrestling ability, but holy poo poo - I had no idea this match was going to be as bloody as it was. As a match, it's fairly basic: Angle destroys Shane, unless Shane is able to fool him or run away. Angle's exhaustion supports the psychology of the match, with him struggling to catch and KO Shane. He keeps having to push himself harder and farther - leading to throwing Shane through windows and doing a super Angle Slam. It's a tremendous spectacle that's a fun to watch, but a little worrisome considering how Angle dealt with injuries later.

I feel like this is the match that gave Shane his pass for a good long time to be in matches because the damage he takes is immense. It’s hella unsettling watching them try again and again to get him through those windows and I remember watching it live and even then feeling like I wanted them to just call it.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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Are there any good books that focus on the history of Japanese wrestling or Mexican wrestling (like, separately, not in one book)? Or even better, if they are about the history of specific companies or even like, the Four Pillars of AJPW?

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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FunMerrania posted:

I remember the Jeff Cobb poo poo talking, how he'll never make it in Japan cause he has no fire.

And that he smelled

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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Harlem Heat’s theme borrows from Kraftwerk’s Sex Object:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaIcBGKNFy0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix07wGATlHk

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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NikkolasKing posted:

Why was The Kat fired from WWF? I'm relistening to some of the last Retro Raws and Nitros and I remember - and th podcast confirms - that she was all over TV for a year or two. Then she's just...gone.

I know she was Lawler's girlfriend and he left over her firing or something but I'm not sure how all this is connected.

He quit when she was fired.

I went to her Wikipedia because I seemed to remember something about it but then:




Uhhh I don’t think I’m gonna trust either of those sources.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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NikkolasKing posted:

In a Retro Raw/Nitro podcast, Bryan and the gang recounted how -Pac was crotched on the top rope. Vinny quotes JR as saying "X-Pac's manhood just exploded all over that top turnbuckle."

Bryan then says "I don't think that happened but later in his life something similar did happen. Legitimately. Worse, much worse."

What is this in reference to?

He tore his rear end in a top hat on a Bronco Buster and lost a lot of blood.

https://deadspin.com/sean-x-pac-waltman-tore-open-his-anus-on-a-failed-bro-458710791

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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Smoking Crow posted:

Iirc the rock refused to put over Shawn michaels because he was rude to rock's grandma

Rock was a Bret Hart guy and Bret just talked about it recently, but Shawn and HHH were apparently really lovely to Rock when he first started and tried to get him to quit, which pissed off Owen and Bret, who talked him through it.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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F A B U L I S T

yes, diamonds on my neck,
yes I'm fabulist

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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I feel like Poisonranas have started popping up far more often in matches.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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Tato posted:

The Bob Holly book is a good read even though he’s an rear end. It’s interesting to read and see the perspective of a low card job guy, especially illuminating on just how little most guys were getting paid before the Attitude Era kicked off.

Not excusing it, but a lot of his anger or disappointment with other guys in the book is based off that. Working super hard, never moving up the card, finally something takes off but your tag partner has a drug problem and is pissing off management. Or a guy getting a speeding ticket in a rental car in your name and not even telling you about it. Extra fees and payments, time off the road to go to court and not getting paid for it, etc.

Unfortunately, like most Bob doesn’t seem to blame Vince for creating these lovely working conditions. He thinks well of him for selling him the stock car stuff on the cheap.

Who got a speeding ticket in bob’s car?

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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El Gallinero Gros posted:

One of Jericho 's greatest strengths is knowing how to put people over.

That story from his 1st book about Bob Brown explaining why its dumb to bury your opponent, particularly if the plan is for you to job, should be required reading for any wrestler with mic skills.

That and Heyman talking about giving an amazing promo in WCW only to come backstage and have Dusty disappointedly say “that was entertaining, but where’s the money?”

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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I might be way off on this, but didn’t the Briscoes have a gimmick of winning 2/3 falls matches in the first two falls? Or was the 2/3 falls match just their thing?

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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History Comes Inside! posted:

It’s the first reply to the exact same question you’re answering

Guess I shouldn’t try to answer questions first thing from waking up

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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I guess not his gimmick, but Al Snow’s entrance was supposed to be like a rave.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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There’s a pretty great time lapse video of Dustin putting on the Goldust makeup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJQ3yZ8QdhE

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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Super No Vacancy posted:

i just listened to a podcast about zeus being the worst guy a director/producer/etc ever worked with and apparently he would rudely demand a caesar salad from the nearest PA whenever he got to set, and also probably could not read

What’s up, fellow Scott Hasn’t Seen listener

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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Does anyone have the promo Regal did during his reign of terror (when he was Raw GM and won King of the Ring) where he talked about killing his grandmother with a hammer?

Im almost positive it was on Byte This is one of their web shows of the time but it was filmed at Raw.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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RenegadeStyle1 posted:

Am I tripping or is the theme Owen Hart gets in 1997 a reworked version of Let It Whip by Dazz Band?

I can hear it, but it sounds to me more like someone just ripping off the first riff of the chorus of Let It Whip and changing it enough to not get sued.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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little munchkin posted:

not sure of the reasoning but yea they were prosthetics

They were doing a There’s Something About Mary bit with the fake old lady boobs.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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edogawa rando posted:

Why is the choice an immediate cold turkey termination of the gimmick, or carrying it her entire career? I reject the very premise of your question.

Timeless Toni Storm moves from the 1940s black and white aesthetic, to 1960s~70s New Wave cinema aesthetic, starting with a deconstructivist approach similar to Godard when he did À bout de souffle or Une femme est une femme, or Easy Rider, something like that, until she reaches the modern day.

Or she eventually drops the title, give her time off, and then bring her back as the All New Toni Storm, who refuses to acknowledge Timeless. Like, "I haven't the slightest clue what you're on about, darling" and looking confused whenever it's mentioned.

They’re gonna bring Kevin Dunn in for all the Godard jump cuts.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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CommonShore posted:

Toni Storm as Klaus Kinski

Tbh her promos aren’t terribly far off from this

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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She’s going to have the first cinematic wrestling match that qualifies under the Dogme 95 vow of Chasity

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The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
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I’ve always used Rey/Eddy from Halloween Havoc as a first match for fans. They tell a story in the ring, Rey does some amazing poo poo, pretty short overall

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