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Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

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Always needed any extra kick in the rear end. Probably get caught up again by the 2020 date anyway

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Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

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Halloween Jack posted:

I don't really understand why the body-hopping shenanigans of Saulot, Tremere, and Tzimisce play such a big role in Gehenna.

Tremere had the most lore-central position because being the Wizard-like clan in a roleplaying game gave them huge appeal for writers and readers, and the 'history' (as was told to me) was that all Tremere were actually just Tzimisce that ate their way up to Saulot so all three clans get circled around.

The body-hopping part mostly feels like a way to keep the players from just offing the physical body with numberwang before going through the riddle of how to 'kill the soul'.

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

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GimpInBlack posted:

It's a geist whose arms have been broken in like a dozen places. Probably in whatever horrific incident killed them in the first place.

Geist, in general, have a tendency to still have the marks of the wounds that killed them. Other ghosts may or may not, depending on level of trauma and how strongly they associate their new identity with their death, but because geists are exaggerated by the rivers of the underworld, their Corpus almost always remembers the wounds that killed them.

Is there a factional trait associated there, where this Giest is the Grimmist Reaper of Falling On Your Face With Your Hands Out, or are these echoes of their demise just a fun flavor trait?

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

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Night10194 posted:

The lack of interest in that is the bigger problem, yes. It's something I notice in a lot of games, not just CoD: There's not much consideration of what victory would look like or what people could be working towards.

The God Machine suffers in the same way that most RPG setting antagonist suffers: there is no writing out of the arcs and themes of what a campaign should look like by publishers. Those books only sell to a fraction of the consumer base and risk being prescriptive enough to be metaplot.

e: quote for new page

Gerund fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Oct 2, 2019

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

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But Purple, you're suggesting a universal Humanity as being 'good' or 'evil' versus a mix of different cultural norms wherein one can become dominant over others because of material circumstances.

God Machine is a metaphor for the underlying culture of Capitalism.

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

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Tuxedo Catfish posted:

By comparison one of my favorite personal theories about the nWoD is that True Fae are a branch of especially successful Abyssal infiltrators, given their tremendous narcissism, their tenuous hold on existence held together by bargains and theatrical performances that will literally kill them if they break a promise or fall out of character, their desire to transform human beings into playthings and reflections of their own reality, and their power over dreams.

e: and also the fact that they're not really people at all, so much as collections of living stories, which is similar to how some Abyssal entities are portrayed (most notably The Prince of 100,000 Leaves, a living alternate history that wants to overwrite ours).

So does the accumulation of new titles and need for Wyrd-fueled opposition, and the suggested need for reality to exist by their continuing creation of Changelings, represent a way in which the Abyssal nihilism has been perverted to being locked into the current reality wherein changelings can escape to?

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

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Howard only disliked civilization because he was pro-lynching of black men and had issue with courts preventing that.

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

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LeSquide posted:

Ooof. I don't doubt you, but do you have a source for this?

'One Who Walks Alone' by Novaline Pryce

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Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

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I'm like 1500 posts behind but the daily fun of reading through RPG writer's weird choices, and how games reacted to them, has been a joy.

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