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I love playing soccer but find it insanely boring to watch. Most of the time a game can be accurately summed up in a 6 minute highlight video and I just can't justify the waste of time for watching live. Not trying to start a big derail or attack soccer, but I do think the lack of interest for television viewers plays a part, as well as the stymied american exceptionalism that fragile egos don't like which Fiz mentioned. Americans hate to see their team lose to some tiny brown person country with like 2 million people in it
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Good thing we didn't have to in 2016 
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Sep 11, 2019 20:55
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I'm not sure what was the original point of this other than me getting mad at a commercial so talking about youth participation in general should be fine for this thread.
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Sep 11, 2019 20:56
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Play posted:I love playing soccer but find it insanely boring to watch. Most of the time a game can be accurately summed up in a 6 minute highlight video and I just can't justify the waste of time for watching live. I feel like football (and most sports) can be accurately summed up in a six minute highlight video. I think soccer suffers in the US because other sports captured our attention first like baseball and football. Baseball spread like wildfire with teams in practically every town. Football survived because colleges picked it up and all had teams. College soccer didn't really take off until the 1950s or so, and by then, college football was already way more popular. Soccer never had a chance.
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Sep 11, 2019 21:10
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The "compared to other countries" part of my question is carrying a lot of weight. The US is big, so there are millions of people playing soccer, but the US men missing 2016 is illustrative of my point. You can turn on pretty much any event in the summer Olympics and expect to see someone from the US competing for a medal, no matter how obscure it is. Meanwhile, our national soccer team didn't even make the cut to compete in the World Cup.Play posted:I love playing soccer but find it insanely boring to watch. Most of the time a game can be accurately summed up in a 6 minute highlight video and I just can't justify the waste of time for watching live. I've learned recently I enjoy watching soccer and hockey way more in person than on TV. The only edge I would give football for TV viewing is the higher stakes for individual games due to there being comparatively few of them in a season. I can't justify spending three hours sitting at home to watch something like baseball knowing there are at least 161 other games in the season. That and baseball is boring.
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Sep 11, 2019 21:35
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I think the simple answer to that is if you're a premier top flight athlete in America you go into baseball, football, or basketball because that's where the money is. I saw a crazy statistic too that out of 325k soccer participants in Connecticut, 2 went on to play in any form of major league soccer. Not only are we behind in athletes wanting to play soccer, we're behind in sheer talent of soccer players across the board. Other countries probably produce similar small numbers of players because there's only so many positions in professional sports, but they produce higher quality due to everyone being higher quality. You're starting to see it in basketball crazy countries too as France, Spain, Australia, Canada, Argentina, and Balkan countries are producing top flight NBA athletes because of their increased competition. Same will probably happen in south east Asia and China as the years go bye. Being a great athlete only takes you so far, you need the skill there too, and that's why I think soccer suffers on a professional output level here in America.
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Sep 11, 2019 21:47
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FizFashizzle posted:Good thing we didn't have to in 2016 can't lose if you don't participate *eddie murphy gif* Doltos posted:I'm not sure what was the original point of this other than me getting mad at a commercial so talking about youth participation in general should be fine for this thread. which is a great idea for a thread, cheers Doltos posted:I think the simple answer to that is if you're a premier top flight athlete in America you go into baseball, football, or basketball because that's where the money is. I saw a crazy statistic too that out of 325k soccer participants in Connecticut, 2 went on to play in any form of major league soccer. after travelling quite a bit in asia and south america, one of the things I learned is that they are just straight up better at soccer. A 12 year old kid in some of those places could outplay most american 18 year olds who've been playing since they were kids. I remember on my select team one year we got this kid, Beto, who had just recently emigrated to America and barely even spoke English yet. He was 13 on an under-16 select soccer team and was BY FAR the best player on the team. Not even close Bird in a Blender posted:I feel like football (and most sports) can be accurately summed up in a six minute highlight video. You might be right and it's just my bias and ability to recognize the subtleties in the game (which I might not in certain other sports) that accounts for that. Also, as someone mentioned, the scarcity. I don't think there's any other professional sport that plays so few games over the course of a full season
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Sep 11, 2019 22:22
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Doltos posted:During this time soccer and basketball were completely college based. In fact the only reason basketball didn't end up like soccer was because of a group of Canadian investors that owned hockey franchises took a risk on a new sport in order to draw some of that yankee money up north. The college game didn’t get a shot clock until the 80s and Dean Smith's UNC teams and their 4 Corners offense.
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Sep 11, 2019 22:23
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a big thing here in phoenix is that the public high school boundaries are really long and narrow or just big regardless https://www.phoenixunion.org/site/h...for-Website.pdf why participate in sports if you're just going to get home at later than 7pm via bus?
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Blowjob Overtime posted:This may be answered in the article, but is there a geographical/historical reason soccer is so unpopular in the US compared to pretty much every other country on Earth? Basically soccer, rugby and American football all originated from the same game. The first codified rules for each game appeared around mid to late 19th century. Soccer and rugby were both popular in Europe send spread throughout the world's by European expats whereas football was almost exclusively an American thing. Couple that with football not really even being closer to the most popular sport in the US until the second half of the 20th century.
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Sep 12, 2019 02:31
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I'd rather watch "esports" than soccer.
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Sep 12, 2019 07:07
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Soccer is better than baseball
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Sep 12, 2019 07:13
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Doltos posted:I think the simple answer to that is if you're a premier top flight athlete in America you go into baseball, football, or basketball because that's where the money is. I saw a crazy statistic too that out of 325k soccer participants in Connecticut, 2 went on to play in any form of major league soccer. To add to this, I think that's also why there's such a disparity between the U.S. men and women's soccer teams; since female athletes have less opportunities to go pro in other sports, women's soccer has a higher level of talent to choose from. Cavauro posted:Soccer is better than baseball 
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Chichevache posted:I'd rather watch "esports" than soccer. Would be curious to see a comparison of how many kids are in e-sports, if data collection like this is even possible yet
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