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Jerusalem posted:The Andrea Dworkin/Candy scene was fantastic, I was fully expecting Candy to come in and hit them with a big powerful speech and instead she took some really hard personal blows and basically made zero headway, but not in a way that felt like it was just a stubborn refusal to listen. Yes! What a loving scene. I was blown away. Felt really bad for Lori this whole episode. She's just got herself a newer, richer, spiffier C.C. The scene with her seeming ticket out of the exploitation of pornographic films turning out to be exploitative b-movies. Oof. That was a gut punch. escape artist fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Oct 2, 2019 |
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What happened to the pimps? They were such a huge presence in the series but none of them have even shown up in this season. I guess they were suggesting that their lifestyle was ending last season, but you’d think the characters would still pop up.
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Comrade Fakename posted:What happened to the pimps? They were such a huge presence in the series but none of them have even shown up in this season. I guess they were suggesting that their lifestyle was ending last season, but you’d think the characters would still pop up. As much as I'd like to see Lester Freeman show up in a fur coat again, I think their complete disappearance is intentional. Nobody in the show is even slightly concerned about what happened to them. They adjust to the new paradigm and don't look back. Reminds me of season 5 of the wire, the effect of the decline of journalism isn't directly felt. Only it's absence is felt. (at the end of the season when we realize their is a full scale gang war going completely unreported. )
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Comrade Fakename posted:What happened to the pimps? They were such a huge presence in the series but none of them have even shown up in this season. I guess they were suggesting that their lifestyle was ending last season, but you’d think the characters would still pop up. Cici was murdered with a screwdriver. Method Man was shot by the Karate Kid. Larry is probably dying of The Bug somewhere and will appear when it's dramatically appropriate.
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TheOmegaWalrus posted:Cici was murdered with a screwdriver. Black Thought got killed by Slim Charles. Apparently it’s in his contract to kill a different rapper in every show
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veni veni veni posted:Everything Abby related has pretty much been crap from the beginning, but this street artist subplot really takes the cake. Overall the show has really glossed over the time jumps from a character perspective, but they've been kind to Abby because she's finally at an age that Margarita Levieva can believably play. (The bit of grey in Alston's hair has also done a lot of heavy lifting.) I mean, a college student, really.
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Hate to say it, because I really enjoy the overall feel of the show and David Simon's eye for detail, but so much of this season has just felt like a foregone conclusion that it's dulled by interest. Video being all the rage, the gay characters getting AIDS, the ascendancy of Wall Street, drugs emerging among organized crime, the anti-porn movement... None of that has to do with the writing, since they're just portraying what things were like in '80s New York, but it does feel a bit like they're just going through the motions. Also, Margarita Levieva is not a very good actress and everything related to Abby has been really boring. And I didn't feel much when Frankie got murked just because it felt like he's been living on borrowed time the whole show and it was telegraphed from a mile away this season. That being said, Lori's storyline is still keeping me interested and the Andrea Dworkin scene was really good. If you found the conversation with the anti-porn crusaders interesting, you should read this essay: https://nplusonemag.com/issue-35/essays/cashconsent/ It's written by a long-time porn actor reflecting on her career and how porn and porn actors have been portrayed and treated by different interest groups, chief among them Dworkin's.
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IMHO the show is also losing some of its authenticity; less location shots, I haven't seen anything in Tad's Steaks even ONCE, they keep bringing up CES but I'd sure love to see them show a little of what it was like in Vegas. Also the lack of appearances from the Private / Swedish Erotica / European part of the market, the hardcore German stuff was really popular then. From what I recall actually having gone to Winter CES in Vegas a few times, at first they allowed the adult video firms to exhibit, but eventually things got out of hand and they were banished from CES for causing too much of a commotion. Eventually they just started doing their own expo, and managed its date to dovetail with Winter CES. Maggie is still pretty good as the proto-Candide Royalle, don't really have much feeling for anyone else (including the guy who dies just last episode.)
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Oct 4, 2019 22:51
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I wasn't looking at the time when Lori bought the gun, I thought for sure Craig was going to take a shot to the gut in a Waffle House parking lot or something. Instead we've just got ourselves a third act Chekov.
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Oct 8, 2019 13:07
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so did vince just set off a mob war
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double negative posted:so did vince just set off a mob war Well, one is going to be starting soon anyway -- late 1985 was when John Gotti took over the Gambinos, and since Rudy has already expressed his contempt for Gotti, I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up on the wrong side.
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Selachian posted:Well, one is going to be starting soon anyway -- late 1985 was when John Gotti took over the Gambinos, and since Rudy has already expressed his contempt for Gotti, I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up on the wrong side. yeah, so knowing that one is historically imminent, i’m wondering if this show is going to position vince’s murder of that dude as some significantly precipitating event
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Oct 8, 2019 21:47
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Overall this has been my least favorite season but that episode was great.
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Lori’s mental breakdown was one of the most uncomfortable scenes I’ve seen on the show and it terrified me a little.
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He's got the bug.
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Ohhh poo poo...There was so much going on in this episode I actually forgot about that scene.
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drat. I'm waiting to watch it all at once so I can drink heavily for a weekend and have an excuse for once.
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nooneofconsequence posted:He's got the bug. Did he get the results? I only saw him ask about getting tested.
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Yeah, we don't know that Mike's sick, we just saw him having a moment of clarity. (I'd completely forgotten he was on the DL until then, too.)Ubiquitous_ posted:Lori’s mental breakdown was one of the most uncomfortable scenes I’ve seen on the show and it terrified me a little. I absolutely hate "It was all in their head" reveals...but that one was tightly structured, believable and stunningly effective. Incredible camerawork and a hell of a performance from Emily Meade.
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As much as I love her performance (she was great in the one season of The Leftovers she was in, too), I would like the last scene she was in to be the last time we see Lori. It would be really fitting after Harvey and Candy's conversation about how women enter the industry, (some) flourish, and then just disappear.
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Preview spoilers: Seems to confirm what we suspected, Mike appears to be very sick from HIV.
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Dmitri-9 posted:Did he get the results? I only saw him ask about getting tested. He wasn't looking too good, though.
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All right, which one of you is working on this show?! FINALLY, two characters are having dinner at Tad's Steaks after I complained!
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Well that was a rough ride. Gonna be interesting to see where Tommy goes from here.
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nooneofconsequence posted:He wasn't looking too good, though. "I gotta go."  I knew the show was going to go out on a down note, but man, I didn't expect it to be this down. Mike's sick, Eileen seemingly gave up on her son, Lori's on a path of self destruction and Vincent just lost the one guy still looking out for him (Though part of me suspects that Vince is going to be saved by Gotti's escalation of gang violence; he'll be forgotten as the inter-familial squabbles kick into high gear/the people gunning for him go down first.) Melissa/Margaret being back in town so soon wasn't much of a surprise, that played out about how I anticipated. Though she's maybe got a way out of the life now with Reg ( ) pointing her towards work in the theater scene.
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Agreed, I feel like Vince is going to slip by as the retaliatory hits go back and forth and eventually everyone forgets how it all started: with Frankie loving up
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Oh man I was not expecting that ending gently caress you Tommy.
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gently caress Finale is gonna somehow be even more of an absolute bummer
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MVP of the ep goes to Black Frankie, for his incredibly violent prison story and his agreeing nod when Tommy says "I would just shoot a motherfucker."
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holy poo poo i really didn't see that coming with lori. even when she grabbed the gun and put it to her head i didn't think for a second she was gonna use it until the moment she did
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Suxpool posted:holy poo poo i really didn't see that coming with lori. even when she grabbed the gun and put it to her head i didn't think for a second she was gonna use it until the moment she did When she told the guy her real name, I got a bad feeling. When she neatly squared up Eileen's Visa with the cash on the dresser, I knew what was coming. I still can't believe it happened.
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Cacator posted:MVP of the ep goes to Black Frankie, for his incredibly violent prison story and his agreeing nod when Tommy says "I would just shoot a motherfucker." alive frankie’s story was great, but goddamn the rest of this ep was rough. lori’s spiral into suicide was one of the most miserable things i’ve ever seen on a tv show
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Oct 22, 2019 05:57
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Jesus. I almost wish I hadn't decided to get caught up on this season.
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Very good interview over at Rolling Stone this morning about this week's episode with a few surprising revelations (Pelecanos and Simon seemingly always knew Lori was going to commit suicide, and Emily Meade knew from the time she took the role that it would have a "tragic" ending. She also had the option of taking a role with a "happy" ending, making me wonder if that was Darlene...or if Ashley wasn't originally meant to come back/be murdered in Season 2.)
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all this sadness and i’m still fixated on the notion that we’re never gonna find out what the gently caress happened to larry
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that was an important story told well, but I feel loving filthy and need a good cry in the shower.
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