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AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
late night with the devil was ok. i liked the debunker dude. it cheated at being found footage way too much though :lofty:

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Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


LegoMan posted:

The Rock has been acting for 23 years

Longer considering wrestling is stage performance

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

AARD VARKMAN posted:

the VHS series and REC are the best found footage movies. VHS 2 probably has the best hit rate but horror vignettes rule and they all have at least one story i really liked

in that vein archive 81 is maybe not as good but enjoyable

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

it's called Under The Blacklight though

details, details

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

AARD VARKMAN posted:

the VHS series and REC are the best found footage movies. VHS 2 probably has the best hit rate but horror vignettes rule and they all have at least one story i really liked

theres a quite good obscure one called “home movie” with adrian pasdar

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

LegoMan posted:

The Rock has been acting for 23 years
He's a veteran celebrity, not a veteran actor.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

ArmedZombie posted:

in that vein archive 81 is maybe not as good but enjoyable

i really liked it but it kinda just ends on nothing because NETFLIX didn't renew it

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Walton's role as the antagonist in I'm a Virgo was also (unsurprisingly) very good.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

A Buttery Pastry posted:

He's a veteran celebrity, not a veteran actor.

wrestling is acting. acting is only barely an artform, gatekeeping it is stupid

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

indigi posted:

wrestling is acting. acting is only barely an artform, gatekeeping it is stupid

all those memorable scenes from Monday Night Raw. I wish I could list them all.

LegoMan
Mar 17, 2002

ting ting ting

College Slice
The point was a veteran actor doesn't always equate to "good"

Kind of thought that was obvious

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

all those memorable scenes from Monday Night Raw. I wish I could list them all.

https://youtu.be/V9O94UTDAJQ?si=wLMNXIQKVTEfRzvp

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys
i call him "the lock" because any time he's in something you're "locked in" for a good time

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

indigi posted:

wrestling is acting. acting is only barely an artform, gatekeeping it is stupid
But he has focused his efforts entirely into being a celebrity, rather than his acting. It's like calling someone a veteran engineer because they've technically done a little engineering their entire professional life, even if they almost immediately went into management.

CaptainBeefart
Mar 28, 2016


DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

all those memorable scenes from Monday Night Raw. I wish I could list them all.

Brett The Hitman Hearts brutal attack on the Mad TV set disturbed me as a kid. That was real.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

A Buttery Pastry posted:

But he has focused his efforts entirely into being a celebrity, rather than his acting. It's like calling someone a veteran engineer because they've technically done a little engineering their entire professional life, even if they almost immediately went into management.

his entire career is acting. do you think he really eats 45 pancakes with peanut butter on them

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
if acting is just being a liar as a profession, wrestlers have gotta be the worst liars on the drat planet.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
I feel l like if you are hiring The Rock to act in your production then you aren't hiring him to deliver a nuanced, thoughtful performance. You are hiring him to act like The Rock.

CaptainBeefart
Mar 28, 2016


DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

if acting is just being a liar as a profession, wrestlers have gotta be the worst liars on the drat planet.

I bet you wouldn't say that to Rikishi's rear end.

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

indigi posted:

wrestling is acting. acting is only barely an artform, gatekeeping it is stupid

Yeah but he sucks at acting

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

CaptainBeefart posted:

I bet you wouldn't say that to Rikishi's rear end.

if we are talking his run with Scotty2Hottie and Grand Master Sexay, I'm willing to make concessions.

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

indigi posted:

his entire career is acting. do you think he really eats 45 pancakes with peanut butter on them

trenbolone is a hell of a drug

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Gumball Gumption posted:

Yeah but he sucks at acting

nah

CaptainBeefart
Mar 28, 2016


DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

if we are talking his run with Scotty2Hottie and Grand Master Sexay, I'm willing to make concessions.

Love finding common ground with others :)

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

it's called Under The Blacklight though

Lmao woops

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Knuckles is one of the most surprising new shows of the year—yes, really. I know what you’re thinking: How could a spinoff of the incredibly popular Sonic the Hedgehog movies starring one of the franchise’s most popular characters be “surprising?” In fact, Knuckles is something of a Trojan Horse. While it presents itself as an action-packed show about Knuckles (voiced by Idris Elba), the no-nonsense red echidna, it’s really about his friendship with a goofy human, Wade Whipple (Adam Pally). More than that, over the course of the six-episode Paramount+ series, Knuckles mentors Wade as he competes in a major bowling tournament—see, I told you it’s surprising!

It’s not totally absent from the typical Sonic the Hedgehog hijinks, of course. Along the way, they run into dastardly foes determined to kidnap Knuckles. But in response, Wade decides to take his new bestie somewhere the bad guys would never think to look: his mother’s house. That leads to what is this series’ most special installment: a glorious, emotional, and poignant episode about a Shabbat dinner. Yes, I’m serious—the third episode (titled “The Shabbat Dinner”) of what is seemingly a big-budget action series about Knuckles from Sonic the Hedgehog is all about the weekly Jewish tradition of Shabbat.

For those unfamiliar with Shabbat, Wade’s mother, Wendy (played by Stockard Channing, instantly entering the pantheon of great Jewish TV moms), explains it perfectly to Knuckles: “Shabbat is the day of rest. It’s about home.” Basically, according to Judaism, God created the world in six days, so on the seventh, he rested. For modern Jews, like myself, Shabbat is an opportunity to connect with family and spend time together without distraction. It’s one of those family things that you can’t stand doing as a kid, but the older you get, the more special and valuable it feels.

In-depth portrayals of Judaism on screen are so rare, and when they do appear, the focus is largely kept on bigger holidays, like Hanukkah or Passover. Rarely do we see media give time to the religion’s more regular, intimate traditions, and it’s remarkable that a show about an alien echidna has devoted an entire half hour to exploring exactly that.

Family traditions aren’t all sweet and tender, of course. Wade didn’t realize he was rocking up to his mother’s home on Shabbat, and he has largely unpleasant memories of the occasion—his father abandoned his family when Wade was young, so most of his Shabbats involved meals gone horribly wrong, fighting with his sister, and mishaps with farm animals. For Wade, Shabbat does not conjure warm feelings; instead, it’s a crushing reminder that he’s from a broken home.

Channing as the Whipple matriarch delivers a warm and inspired performance. The details are delightful. She’s devoted to calling Knuckles “Knuchles,” with a hearty emphasis on the “ch” sound, she’s a former Krav Maga instructor, and like many wonderful Jewish mothers, family and family tradition are paramount.

At the dinner table, Wendy and Knuckles connect when talking about the history of their people. Knuckles reveals that the echidnas were wiped out by a fleet of giant owls and that he is the last of his tribe. “Our tribe has been through some tough times too,” she responds, adding, “minus the giant owls. He’s basically Jewish!”

While Wendy bonds with Knuckles, Wade and his sister Wanda (Edi Patterson), an FBI agent, are constantly bickering, rehashing their lifelong sibling rivalry. Annoyed that Wade has caught her in a lie, Wanda retaliates by stabbing Wade with a fork. Wade justifiably freaks out, but it’s Wendy’s reaction that is most telling. She stares blankly, hand on her cheek, looking exhausted. Despite her best efforts, including cooking all of Wade’s favorites from various Jewish holidays, it’s clear that this Shabbat is set up to be a disappointment, just like every other. And there are few things more heartbreaking than a Jewish mother’s disappointment.

Later that night, Knuckles finds Wendy alone, watching Pretty Woman. She shares how the Whipples’ Friday night tradition was to have Shabbat dinner, then sit together with an old movie, basking in the warm glow of the television screen and the joy of each other’s company. Now an empty nester, Wendy cooks a whole Shabbat dinner every week, desserts and all, regardless of if her family will come or not; she just tries to keep a semblance of tradition alive. It’s a level of poignancy you wouldn’t expect from a show like Knuckles, but “The Shabbat Dinner” is nothing if not unexpected.

At the end of the episode, Knuckles reminds us that it’s supposed to be an action show, delivering a brilliant set piece to wrap things up. The baddies have found Knuckles, and they launch an assault on the Whipple house to capture him.

“Knuchles, protect the candles at all costs,” Wendy tells Knuckles before the fight breaks loose. Set to “Hava Nagila”—an iconic Jewish folk song often performed during celebrations—the camera swirls slowly around the kitchen island as Wendy and Knuckles work together to take down the invaders. Knuckles uses his physical prowess, while Wendy cleverly uses what’s available to her—dinner plates and frying pans—to keep the enemies at bay. But the whole time, the action is almost secondary to the Shabbat candles, which are always centered in the frame. The candles are important, of course, but what they represent is doubly so. Shabbat candles are a symbol of the family, of the division of light versus darkness. I cannot pretend that this funny fight scene didn’t make me cry, because tears were definitely streaming watching Wendy and Knuckles fight to protect the Shabbat candles.

They succeed, and Wade and Wanda come to the kitchen after fighting other assailants that broke into the house. The Whipple siblings expect their mother to be devastated over the destruction brought to her house, but Wendy stands quietly with a big smile on her face. Their family, which had drifted apart, is now standing together, united. Eventually, she says, fighting back tears of joy, “My kids finally came home for Shabbat… this is the best drat Shabbat dinner we’ve ever had.” Watching this family bond together as the Shabbat candles go down is honestly one of the most emotionally cathartic experiences I’ll have this year.

It’s no secret that 2024 has been a tough one for everyone, including people of Jewish faith. In recent months, antisemitism has flourished online and in the news, and religion has been frequently weaponized and politicized. A powerful, earnest celebration of the Jewish faith and the power of Shabbat feels like exactly the kind of healing that we need right now—especially during Passover, which began just days before Knuckles premiered. And this moment of beauty comes from, of all places, a show about a Sonic the Hedgehog character.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

all those memorable scenes from Monday Night Raw. I wish I could list them all.

The Christmas episode where goldust reads a Christmas poem then degeneration X shows up in mistletoe thongs is an all-timer I rewatch it every holiday season. Hell that whole invalid goldust era is incredible.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
I am 100% on board with classifying Dustin Rhodes as a good actor. the exception that proves the rule.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Some Guy TT posted:

At the dinner table, Wendy and Knuckles connect when talking about the history of their people. Knuckles reveals that the echidnas were wiped out by a fleet of giant owls and that he is the last of his tribe. “Our tribe has been through some tough times too,” she responds, adding, “minus the giant owls. He’s basically Jewish!”

Serious mlp made me realize the holocaust was bad vibes here

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

so are the giant owls the babylonians or the egyptians or the romans in this metaphor

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


Nichael posted:

Walton's role as the antagonist in I'm a Virgo was also (unsurprisingly) very good.

i didn't like him in invincible at first but he has subtle voice inflections that add a lot to a relatively flat character. which makes it funnier when half of his lines are with jason mantzoukas

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys
we finished Justified a few weeks ago and just recently started the new one, neo-Justified

Justified kicks rear end, Raylan Givens is good and he knows that cops and himself are ftl

the new one has a lot of really dumb characters but at least it's more slop for me, the slop lover. no goggins so far but otoh it's more olyphant so it's impossible to say if it's good or bad

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

new justified was meh

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Some Guy TT posted:

so are the giant owls the babylonians or the egyptians or the romans in this metaphor

palestinians.

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

lumpentroll posted:

new justified was meh

that's my read so far yeah

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022


lumpentroll posted:

new justified was meh

the nepo daughter couldnt act at all

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

withak posted:

I feel l like if you are hiring The Rock to act in your production then you aren't hiring him to deliver a nuanced, thoughtful performance. You are hiring him to act like The Rock.

Are you suggesting he didnt give a virtuoso performance as Black Adam?

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

tristeham posted:

the nepo daughter couldnt act at all

yep

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

tristeham posted:

the nepo daughter couldnt act at all

she's awful

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the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys
the other thing that keeps bothering me about neo justified is the defense lawyer character keeps showing up and shouting "oh i don't think so raylan givens! i'm a lawyer!!" and it's presented as that somehow blocking or impeding the investigation. it's detroit, those cops would have disappeared her psycho client before the feds even got a whiff of him

even back in the holler, that guy wouldn't have stood a chance. but neo-justified keeps going "oh golly they told us to get a warrant, there's nothing we can do!" big difference in tone imo, but i haven't read the stories/book(s?)

at least the proper justified series always recognized that every cop is lazy, corrupt, or both

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