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i started watching the jack ryan series and one cool thing that's happening now is that the bad guys in poo poo like this are victims of the american empire, but must still be defeated anyways. like the villain saw most of his family get blown the gently caress up by us planes in 83 and i guess now he wants revenge? i'm supposed to not sympathize with him? there's a scene in episode 2 where some cia higher-up is like "he's got the same motivation as the rest of them: death to the west, create a new caliphate" and like... that's not a motivation, that's a goal. and jim from the office just sits there dumbly and goes "i think... he's different..."
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also jack ryan is the most mary sue rear end character ever. he's a former marine and lone survivor type who got out, became a doctor of computers or money or some poo poo, went to wall street but quit because he's too "moral" and then joined the loving cia. and despite being some goober who sits behind a computer and tracks financial transactions he's totally buff and will kick "terrorist" rear end. every time someone calls him "doctor ryan" i can't help but laugh
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Sep 11, 2019 11:20
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i dunno what's worse, when movies/tv depict americans not torturing people because of course we would never be evil or when they depict americans torturing people but its actually good because hard men must make hard choices or this jack ryan poo poo where they hint at torture and saintly knight jack ryan doesn't torture, he gives the guy food and water like they depict the actual on-screen interrogation as them just yelling at a guy for hours, but they nod towards the idea that guys in other cells are getting their poo poo wrecked. jim from the office looks at a nearby guard with an expression of deep concern over this
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Sep 11, 2019 13:42
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Freaking Crumbum posted:i just can't accept jim as a hardass action hero. i know he's ripped to poo poo and too swole to control now, but i still can't not see him as goofy skinny jim in my mind. the one action scene he's been in so far was terrible
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Sep 11, 2019 14:52
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episode 3 of jack ryan is the most dogshit evil propaganda i've ever seen victor, the drone pilot, starts the episode by murdering an innocent man on a motorcycle, for which his partner riot grrl gives him a dollar. he has a bunch of these dollars, all numbered for each kill. he goes to vegas to try and lose it all in a series of crazier bets that wind up winning big. he is taken back to a hotel room by what appears to be a married couple. victor has sex with the woman while the man watches and then the man beats him before they leave in the b-plot of the episode, hanin, the wife of the terrorist suleiman, is trying to run with her kids. suleiman finds out but she escapes with her two daughters anyways. suleiman finds out and sends hanin's uncle fathi and this creepy soldier who was hitting on his daughter yazidi to get them back. the two men track them to a public market and begin chasing them, while victor and riot grrl watch through their predator drones. yazidi captures the daughters and fathi tries to think of a way to stop him, but yazidi kills him. yazidi then drags hanin off to rape her, and the drone pilot victor goes against orders, and when hanin momentarily escapes he blows up yazidi with a missile. hanin gets into fathi and yazidi's truck, looks to her kids and says "see, i told you god would protect us" victor leans back in his chair, obviously happy with himself for doing something good this show is disgusting
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Sep 12, 2019 13:23
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oh yeah there's also a scene where a french intelligence agent tells jack ryan that muslims in france become radicalized because in america someone can be african-american or chinese-american, but muslims will never be french. the implication being that america is better because we don't have racism, i guess? ten loving minutes later she asks ryan "how can you possibly work for your government, knowing what they've done?" and dopey rear end ryan is like "i think i can change things from the inside."
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Sep 12, 2019 15:05
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vyelkin posted:dont forget that they show the villain being a secular muslim frenchman in a paris banlieue and then one time he gets arrested by the racist french police for protecting his brother and goes to prison and when he comes out of prison he's magically now a jihadi and that change is never explained except for a vague sense of "oh i guess french prisons are full of muslim extremists and therefore every arab who enters a french prison becomes a jihadi" i haven't gotten that far yet. that's stupid. suleiman carrying a grudge from his family getting blown up in lebanon in 83 makes way more sense, because that i can sympathize with
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Sep 12, 2019 15:25
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sorry to bother you owns. critically, it doesn't stop at the workers getting a union and improving their conditions, it ends on a real call to action for class warfare and depicts the proles kicking down the doors of the rich the first purge is almost as radical
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Sep 13, 2019 12:46
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zombieland is a remarkably low-energy movie with a main character who today would be understood as an incel
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Sep 17, 2019 15:11
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Some Guy TT posted:yang promised to reach out to shane gillis gotta wonder if hes rethinking this beer summit idea since its the thing most likely to piss of his base of asian american liberals yang doesn't have a base. he has fans. he's not a serious candidate, just a guy looking to stroke his ego and get some name recognition for whatever his next big venture is
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Sep 18, 2019 15:37
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wasn't the role originally like a kickass fighter pilot or something? and then murphy passed so he was written to be an everyman for ernie hudson? they should've let hudson play a fighter pilot
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Sep 23, 2019 15:16
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i liked each season of stranger things better than the last but its pretty trashy. only watch if you want a sort of bottom-shelf wannabee spielberg tv thing
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Sep 24, 2019 20:33
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although the fact that it depicts the ussr as an all-powerful presence that can build a secret mega base in america and break through the dimensional veil is pretty optimistic
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Sep 24, 2019 20:36
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Peanut President posted:winston as an everyman is what makes him good though, he's the straight man i like winston and i agree that he's great as an everyman. i just figure hudson would have liked to get the chance to play a fighter pilot
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Sep 25, 2019 11:06
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the funniest part is the production stills that show the clown mask protesters holding "eat the rich" signs
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Sep 25, 2019 14:31
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calling it now, joker movie will be good
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Sep 25, 2019 15:28
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Farm Frenzy posted:yea the movie appears to be conflating OWS/bernie with incel mass shooters becasye its idiot lib trash but the thinkpiece writer honed in on a dumber thing to fixate about i'm more interested in how its going to use anti-capitalism as window dressing also i don't see where they get the incel thing from because he clearly hooks up with zazie beetz's character. which, uh weird choice but whatever
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Sep 25, 2019 15:46
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speaking of weird sex stuff i was loling about how in glow season 3 they have alison brie and betty gilpin's characters hook up with crusty ancient dudes in like some sort of anti-wish fulfillment poo poo. even the doughy faced guy from mad men was a step up, same for porno stache guy from season 2 try to fathom the idea of being sexually attracted to mark maron
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Sep 25, 2019 15:51
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well, shield is gone, but they invent the cia at the end lol
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Sep 25, 2019 16:38
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lol the clown protesters have "eat the rich" signs. they're going to cast anti-capitalists as terrorists y'all
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Sep 26, 2019 14:50
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get that OUT of my face posted:didn't they do the same thing with Dark Knight Rises lmao yeah it demonizes occupy wall street because nolan felt an uncomfortable tingling in his bank account when he saw that there's a moment when the proletarian catwoman is walking around town looking distressed as rich people are dragged outside and beaten and their stuff is looted. she says to her friend, who is loving this "this used to be somebody's house" (inside a rich townhouse) and her friend goes "now its everyone's house" and catwoman, who has made a career out of stealing from rich people, looks horrified they even said that bane's coat was designed to look like an "eastern european revolutionary's coat"
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Sep 26, 2019 15:28
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ikanreed posted:In post scarcity star trek future I want to open a free restaurant like cisco's dad. i remember watching a video where a guy trying to figure out the economics of star trek was like "if star trek was truly communist, then small businesses like sisko's dad's restaurant wouldn't exist"
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Sep 26, 2019 20:20
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gradenko_2000 posted:watched Hustler tonight and its a pretty CSPAM movie, would recommend i dunno, the image of subway and dhl on the moon was pretty depressing. same with the lunar war. felt like the movie was trying to paint a pretty bleak picture of space colonization under capitalism
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Sep 29, 2019 01:02
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ad astra is a clear case where the studio looked at a rough cut of the film was realized it wasn't what they paid for, but decided to just sell it as an action-adventure movie and ignore the fact that its not that it has my favorite line and delivery of 2019 movies so far roy spends the whole movie slowly coming to terms with the understanding that his father was not a hero but was in fact an obsessive rear end in a top hat who most likely killed a bunch of people to satisfy his deranged dream of discovering sapient life outside the solar system. and when he finally gets to his ship near the rings of neptune he comes face to face with his father who he hasn't seen in almost 30 years amid the floating corpses of the people he killed. they have a short bit of tense conversation and seemingly without prompting his father says "i never cared about you, or your mother or your small ideas." and roy sheds a single tear but its cathartic for him to know that his dad was a big piece of poo poo all along and he shouldn't worry about him anymore. it was a great moment, and made the rest of the movie worth it
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Sep 30, 2019 17:03
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i'm definitely gonna watch the watchmen show. it'll probably be bad, in which case its great for content. and if somehow lindelof pulls it off and its good, that'll be fun too
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Oct 1, 2019 21:10
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always be my maybe is a pretty average romcom with one incredible part in the middle that makes the rest of it worth the time
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Oct 2, 2019 20:54
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i remember reading the ultimates back in the day and lol at their cap what an absolute trash garbage comic book. stupid and racist
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Oct 3, 2019 11:18
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gradenko_2000 posted:that line still cracks me up everytime. just pure Bush-era patriotism 9/11 broke our brains and 11/9 finished the job
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Oct 3, 2019 12:12
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in the mcu cap is a guy who bought the propaganda about america hook line and sinker and then we gave him superpowers
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Oct 3, 2019 16:24
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Percelus posted:in the first movie, not the second two he still buys it in the second two, he just thinks that america went downhill at some point. he's a pretty dumb guy, which makes him great at fighting the symptoms of evil and bad at identifying the cause
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Oct 3, 2019 16:30
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Percelus posted:i'm not going to argue the mcu has good politics but the second movie is basically about drone murder and preemptive strikes while the third is idk but he goes rogue or something personally i like the second movie and i agree with you that, superficially, the message is somewhat good. also a great bit to do is when someone mentions the whole hydra thing, just drop operation paperclip on them to blow their minds
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Oct 3, 2019 16:40
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Zerilan posted:Winter Soldier is good. i liked parts of civil war but as a whole it just doesn't hold together. although the best bit imo was when they're like "you got a bunch of people killed with that whole ultron thing you dumbasses" because superhero movies love to gloss over the thousands of dead and injured people that would be left behind by those battles. they even had a whole scene in ultron where they evacuate the city and they still show them that its not enough
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Oct 3, 2019 16:47
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gradenko_2000 posted:my favorite pendulum swinging on this is Batman v Superman where they just happen to keep fighting in places that are explicitly mentioned as being totally abandoned "the finance district is obviously abandoned after sundown!"
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Oct 3, 2019 16:53
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wow last i heard scarlet witch was just into robots
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Oct 3, 2019 17:11
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the vulture is the hero of homecoming, as he's the only one willing to call stark out for what he truly is. and mcu spider-man is basically a pinkerton but he does it for fun
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Oct 3, 2019 17:36
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WampaLord posted:Vulture is not actually a working class hero, look at his loving house! "I have a family to support" goes out the window when you're spending millions on having the nicest home in the nicest suburb. who's he kill? logan marshall green? big loss. dude pulls off bloodless heists to steal from the worst capitalist on the planet who hosed him over and makes a nice living for him and his crew
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Oct 3, 2019 17:55
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also nobody here said vulture was a working-class hero, that's a weird hallucination
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Oct 3, 2019 17:58
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Percelus posted:tbf i read his killing of logan marshall green him just trying to make things easier for the public by no longer having a tom hardy doppleganger to confuse them y'know i used to think this too, but logan marshall green owns. upgrade in particular is fantastic. if we're eliminating tom hardy clones, we should get jai courtney instead
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Oct 3, 2019 18:11
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Percelus posted:i've never once confused jai courtney with tom hardy but jai courtney is worthelss so if you want to kill him go ahead at least i won't have to suffer watching anymore movies with him i spent a long time looking at courtney in suicide squad and he's basically just more tom hardy. and somehow he was a bright spot in that dismal film
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