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Why does everyone hate Electronic Arts and loot crates? I love Loot Crates, surprise mechanics; whatever you call them. In fact, I've been buying them since '94. Must of us probably have. They're called Trading Card Booster packs, and if you've ever bought pokemon cards or Magic cards or Yugioh cards you've bought a loot crate. And it was fun.
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Sep 10, 2019 22:22
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because cards are actual physical objects. owning a duplicate means you own two of something.
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Sep 10, 2019 22:25
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as someone who has bought lots of loot crates, buying lottery tickets is a more financially sound decision also my rear end is made of cast iron and nothing can hurt it
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Sep 10, 2019 22:28
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Trading Card Booster also suck. The games were good, but they cost an extortionate amount of money to get the cards you wanted. I can kinda live with Living Card Games where you pay for an expansion pack and get all the cards in one go though.
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Sep 10, 2019 22:28
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Bug Squash posted:Trading Card Booster also suck. The games were good, but they cost an extortionate amount of money to get the cards you wanted. I can kinda live with Living Card Games where you pay for an expansion pack and get all the cards in one go though. Would probably play Magic again if it was like this (Or even Hearthstone)
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Sep 10, 2019 22:36
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Loot crates are directly targeted at the people who Pirate games.
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Sep 10, 2019 22:42
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They should be called poot crates, IMO.
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Sep 10, 2019 22:46
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I got one and it had about 8 FunkoPops of Peter Serafinowicz's character from the Guardians of the Galaxy movie inside it
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Sep 10, 2019 23:14
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It’s because most of you guys are probably millennials (cringe) who have had everything in life handed to them on a silver platter. Loot boxes aren’t like mommy and daddy who give you everything you want.
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Sep 11, 2019 02:19
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Very early to give up the game.
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Sep 11, 2019 02:22
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Nice first posts in months, hope that $10 + plat was worth
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Sep 11, 2019 02:28
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A number of reasons: - It's completely unnecessary from a game developer's part to use paid-for loot boxes. You can have 'surprise mechanics' with any kind of randomly spawned loot. There is zero benefit to any player from lootbox mechanics, the only people who are benefiting are the people you're giving money to. - The additional thrill of having spent real-life money on a loot box uses the same psychological exploits as gambling in a casino or buying lottery tickets. Gambling is known to be addictive to some people and lootbox mechanics are very consciously set up to exploit that to try and get people addicted (and in most cases, in those cases where you do 'win' when opening a lootbox, all you get is some digital doohicky that has artificial scarcity that the game developers can put in there at almost zero cost, rather than actual real world money that presents at least some financial risk to the casino). Gambling addiction is a crippling disorder and consciously trying to exploit is is scummy to the extreme. - Game balance can actually be negatively impacted by lootbox mechanics, depending what's in the lootboxes and how they're implemented. If you give people the choice to either grind or spend money to earn their 'keys', you're liable to end up with a horribly grindy game that could have been much more streamlined. If you lock content behind lootboxes, then only those people willing to spend a randomly determined (and likely large) sum of money will actually be able to access said content. And if the lootboxes contain useable items, you give a gameplay advantage to those people who are willing to fork out more money, skewing things in favour of those who spend more. And the reason I never played Magic: The Gathering or any similar trading card game is precisely because the above apply to those as well, which I consider to be unethical, money grubbing, and detrimental to game design and balance. I personally would love it if every game that contained lootbox mechanics were officially branded as 'gambling' by law and would face the same sales restrictions as lottery tickets and casino visits.
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Sep 11, 2019 02:31
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Stevefin posted:Nice first posts in months, hope that $10 + plat was worth 10 dollars and plat is nothing to me, just like buying a loot box or 20 lootboxes is nothing for me. I love supporting game developers and I show them love by giving them money for lootboxes. Do you really not have an extra 10 dollars to give great corporations like EA or Blizzard as a little thank you each week? The lootbox is honestly secondary to me, because I just like supporting great talent. No one is forcing you to buy lootboxes.
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Sep 11, 2019 02:35
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infinite anime posted:No one is forcing you to buy lootboxes. No, but they're actively making games less fun for the people who won't. Not because they have to - because they choose to. I'm all for replacing lootboxes with a 'Donate to EA' button that does just that.
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Sep 11, 2019 02:37
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Soul Reaver posted:A number of reasons: I’ll take these in turn. -The gamer absolutely wins when buying a lootbox regardless of what is inside because you’re giving money to people who work hard to keep your favorite game running. Maybe if the original star wars battlefront or everquest were smart enough to implement lootboxes their servers would still be up. Instead those companies get bought out by much better, smarter companies, ie EA. -why is being addicted to gambling wrong but being addicted to a game without loot boxes good/healthier? I’m a big boy and can decide if I want to buy a lootbox or not. -games can be balanced AROUND the lootbox.
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Sep 11, 2019 02:39
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infinite anime posted:-games can be balanced AROUND the lootbox. https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/17/17581270/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-removes-war-crates-free-update Quick google search says no
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Sep 11, 2019 02:49
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i put a loot crate in my bum and it hurt
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Sep 11, 2019 02:52
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Stevefin posted:https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/17/17581270/middle-earth-shadow-of-war-removes-war-crates-free-update ...? Wow, some racist tolkien fanboys got crates removed from some big piece of poo poo game I’ve never heard of? You win!
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Sep 11, 2019 02:53
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i just tried putting a pack of magic cards in my bum and it also hurt so im not sure either work well
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Sep 11, 2019 02:55
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infinite anime posted:...? Wow, some racist tolkien fanboys got crates removed from some big piece of poo poo game I’ve never heard of? You win! Tolkien fanboys do not play games because it 'ruins his work' the other is to get the real ending you had to spend lots of money in loot crates for orcs to even have a chance to see it, its funny they decided that with the ability to not able to buy orcs they decided to make is easier
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Sep 11, 2019 03:25
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infinite anime posted:-why is being addicted to gambling wrong but being addicted to a game without loot boxes good/healthier? I’m a big boy and can decide if I want to buy a lootbox or not. gambling has lots of restrictions on it that limit where it can be done, who can do it, and what sorts of gambling can be done, often because prior to those restrictions being put into place they were doing the same shady poo poo that game companies are doing right now.
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Sep 11, 2019 03:42
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infinite anime posted:10 dollars and plat is nothing to me, just like buying a loot box or 20 lootboxes is nothing for me. I love supporting game developers and I show them love by giving them money for lootboxes. Do you really not have an extra 10 dollars to give great corporations like EA or Blizzard as a little thank you each week? The lootbox is honestly secondary to me, because I just like supporting great talent. this is a gimmick account right?
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Sep 11, 2019 04:30
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Maybe if you pulled your racist head out of your rear end you would realize that once again the Japanese are putting out the superior product. Congrats on your space warrior helmet from Star Wars Extended Universe 17: Revenge of the Nerds or whatever, I just got an S++ big tittied anime babe that will destroy the next tier of dungeons, that I can view on my phone at any time of day
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Sep 11, 2019 04:40
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Iron Chef Ramen posted:this is a gimmick account right? do u mean fyad poster infinite anime say it aint so
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Sep 11, 2019 04:51
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As long as lootboxes don't affect mechanics or progression I honestly don't give a poo poo about lootboxes but Battlefront 2's lootboxes were rear end. Progression was pretty much spend credits and hope you get the card that gives you increased damage and health for your class and if you didn't have purple tier cards you'd be having one hell of a great time getting bumfucked over by whales.
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Sep 11, 2019 05:25
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I mean booster packs for card games are also predatory, not a great comparison you're drawing.
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Sep 11, 2019 06:50
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Carados posted:I mean booster packs for card games are also predatory, not a great comparison you're drawing. at least they give you playground clout & enrich local bullies who is going to be impressed by your digital hat, nobody
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Sep 11, 2019 06:58
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DC Murderverse posted:gambling has lots of restrictions on it that limit where it can be done, who can do it, and what sorts of gambling can be done, often because prior to those restrictions being put into place they were doing the same shady poo poo that game companies are doing right now. Except you get lootcrates for free on Overwatch just by playing the game. Extra content for free-why the buttsalt?
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Sep 11, 2019 12:24
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Iron Chef Ramen posted:this is a gimmick account right? Haha! I made you think I was dumb! Somehow this is a great prank!
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Sep 11, 2019 14:39
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deece troll 7/10
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Sep 11, 2019 17:09
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Wendell posted:Haha! I made you think I was dumb! Somehow this is a great prank! it's more doing a bit and being accosted by gullible people who think you're being unironic
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Sep 11, 2019 17:15
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I'm getting mad about a guy pretending to like something.
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Sep 11, 2019 19:07
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Just bought 100 dollars worth of Riot Points on League of Legends and I'm going to use it all on keys to open chests, you depressed bastards.
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Sep 14, 2019 23:24
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Sep 14, 2019 23:54
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infinite anime posted:Just bought 100 dollars worth of Riot Points on League of Legends and I'm going to use it all on keys to open chests, you depressed bastards. I'm upset about this.
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Having the videogame industry design games around the concept of loot crates is cancer. Selling lootcrates to 7 year olds on their iphone with daddy's credit card is cancer. Fifa is like the top grossing game because of lootcrate player packs or whatever. producers: Make a real loving game that doesn't rely on sapping people's money consumers: please stop buying lootcrates you loving rubes Some games are inherently about random chance, like magic such as you mentioned. They too tease out just how much fuckery they can pull before people stop buying. Top tier standard decks costing like 50-80 if you play that cheapass blue one owns. I had a standard deck valued at probably 300-400 and that is just dumb. That's why I stopped playing. Why bother spending that much? It was fun, though. 90% of magic cards become bulk rare when rotation hits, so you have to weight the cost/benefit over time. I think they did an analysis and said it's always best to buy individual cards if you know what deck you want rather than buying packs and hoping to get what you need or trade for what you need. I got a box of the ultimate master's and my estimated value of the cards I got was more than the price I paid, but what if I didn't make that back? Gambling will always be a thing and some people are irresponsible. Legit go watch the episode of south park with the terrance and phillip mobile game. It's great and explains the dangers of microtransactions. vandalism fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Sep 15, 2019 |
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Sep 15, 2019 00:30
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Loot crates more like lame crates.
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Sep 15, 2019 00:40
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Since the weird corprete troll wanted to reserect this again. This happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIvHMcT-3e0&t=722s This is jims video about the summery report the UK published after it got everyone together and EA gave us the buzz word suprise mechanics infinite anime posted:Just bought 100 dollars worth of Riot Points on League of Legends and I'm going to use it all on keys to open chests, you depressed bastards. Also why? it would of been cheaper and eaiser just to buy the skin you want, since you know riot gives you that option for about 90% of their skins
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Sep 15, 2019 01:45
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You could wrap the $100 around your willy and rub yourself raw with it, that'd probably be more fun too imo.
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i loving love loot and i loving love crates. really excited to check out this "loot crate" people keep talking about
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