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Notorious b.s.d. posted:lol that apple released a mac pro with an old chip, an old chipset, and crap GPUs in a proprietary format, to replace the fabulously successful trashcan mac, which had an old chip, and old chipset, and crap GPUs in a proprietary format in what sense is the xeon w-32xx family and associated chipset "old", it's literally the newest workstation cpu intel makes and in what sense is the new proprietary gpu equivalent to the old, given that the old was not remotely compliant with the pcie card electromechanical spec while the new is a superset of it that is quite meaningful, since you can replace the apple proprietary gpu with any standard pcie card, and the new machine has a ton of slots open (unlike the old, where you're limited to a maximum of 2 of the fully proprietary low-power gpus) there's stuff to quibble with about the new mac pro, but claiming they are doing things they aren't and have therefore learned nothing is p dumb
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the talent deficit posted:lga3647 is all 14nm+ which is like 4 nodes behind their consumer stuff. the best w-32xx available today is basically a three year old part and there aren't gonna be any new processors on that platform in the future have you not been paying attention to the way intel does workstation / server cpus? they're always trailing consumer (and the handful of xeons which are just rebadged consumer w/ ecc enabled) in this way. the delay from tapeout date to product availability is simply much shorter on the consumer side, they're doing much less stringent validation and it's a profoundly easier job in a lot of cases (multi socket support is a nightmare to test) it's weird to complain about a big high core count capable machine using the literal best intel cpu option available, the only legit angle to critique from is that maybe apple should have selected amd this time around
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:well in this case, this chip came out in 2015, and the server version came out .... later in 2015. this is one of the cpus you can get https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/193754/intel-xeon-w-3275m-processor-38-5m-cache-2-50-ghz.html products formerly cascade lake, launched q2 2019 if you look at the other xeons w, the previous generation, code name skylake, launched q3 2017. 2015 was when client skylake shipped like i said, it‘s a real thing that intel server/ws silicon takes much longer to get out the door than client silicon of nominally the same generation
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