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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:are there pcie 4.0 cards out yet lots mostly NICs and nvme devices
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lol that apple released a mac pro with an old chip, an old chipset, and crap GPUs in a proprietary format, to replace the fabulously successful trashcan mac, which had an old chip, and old chipset, and crap GPUs in a proprietary format they learn nothing
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BobHoward posted:in what sense is the xeon w-32xx family and associated chipset "old", it's literally the newest workstation cpu intel makes it’s a warmed-over rehash of sky lake hcc from 2015 same speeds and feeds, but a nice fresh model number! BobHoward posted:and in what sense is the new proprietary gpu equivalent to the old, given that the old was not remotely compliant with the pcie card electromechanical spec while the new is a superset of it you still don’t have any choice in gpu vendor. Radeon is the only game in town, because apple likes it that way
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BobHoward posted:have you not been paying attention to the way intel does workstation / server cpus? they're always trailing consumer (and the handful of xeons which are just rebadged consumer w/ ecc enabled) in this way. the delay from tapeout date to product availability is simply much shorter on the consumer side, they're doing much less stringent validation and it's a profoundly easier job in a lot of cases (multi socket support is a nightmare to test) well in this case, this chip came out in 2015, and the server version came out .... later in 2015. BobHoward posted:it's weird to complain about a big high core count capable machine using the literal best intel cpu option available, the only legit angle to critique from is that maybe apple should have selected amd this time around it is not apple's fault that intel is still shoveling out a warmed-over reheat of a design from five years ago, but it's extremely funny that apple still chose intel
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The Management posted:switching to AMD is a lot of work, and they would have had to start it before it was obvious that intel was going to gently caress up their entire product line. at this point this is just more motivation to abandon intel for arm. it was obvious that intel had hosed up extremely badly two years ago. how old do you think this mac pro project is?
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:also, let's be real, intel has been promising the new better thing any moment now all along, and up until relatively recently they had some shreds of credibility left well it's more like, "why bother" fabulously expensive, warmed-over chip, stuck with radeon gpu still. was this product really necessary? i am sure there are a few people who will be thrilled to have real rackmount cases but other than that, who was looknig for this?
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BobHoward posted:this is one of the cpus you can get yes these "cascade lake" parts are a rehash of skylake HCC, the original skylake xeon parts, complete with the original 14 nm feature size, and the original yields. it's not even a die shrink. it's just a new name on old poo poo (the original skylake xeons predated the "W" scheme, which is why they came out in 2017 -- new name on old poo poo then, as well as now) it's a five year old design with five year old performance the newest intel parts are called "ice lake," but they can't be made with big enough die sizes on the 10 nm process to actually deliver a server part. also, they are actually slower clock for clock than the old warmed over skylake stuff intel has been really loving up badly Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Feb 5, 2020 |
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Fabricated posted:The Mac pro isn't much of a value but even so it's kinda stupid to expect Apple to turn on a dime and switch to AMD processors and Nvidia gpus i'm not sure i expected them to turn on a dime i just question the value of releasing a product that shares all the problems of the prior generation product. why even bother? what was the point? sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something
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