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Important kick coming
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Mar 16, 2024 22:40
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That was a great dummy, Goddamnit.
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Mar 16, 2024 22:41
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Lovely hands to get that wide
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Mar 16, 2024 22:41
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Mar 16, 2024 22:42
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Freeman’s tap tackle there. Underhill is liable for a citing here
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Mar 16, 2024 22:44
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Mar 16, 2024 22:46
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Mar 16, 2024 22:46
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Oh well Good game
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Mar 16, 2024 22:46
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Great game.
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Mar 16, 2024 22:47
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Exciting game that
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Mar 16, 2024 22:53
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for some reason i thought the france england game was tomorrow so i missed it 
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Mar 16, 2024 23:08
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Good game. I'm actually looking forward to this England team.
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Mar 16, 2024 23:26
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England have produced 2 back to back good games, not just good performances but genuinely good games. It's a world gone mad. For Scotland I'm not sure exactly how we move forwards. Just a lot of frustrating errors, over throwing a lineout is such a core skill, do we simply not have the skills across the board. The team feels confident and playing tactically a good game. Against Italy we just imploded after the disallowed try just couldn't get into the game after it. Against Ireland a broadly good performance strewn with basic errors. With France we were in the driving seat and even without the disallowed try we should have won that one. Maybe a change in coach would help but I'm not sure who and what practical thing they could do to improve Scotland.
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Mar 17, 2024 11:48
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Look on the bright side, at least they’re not Wales.
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Mar 17, 2024 16:56
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Gatland really hasn't been the same since the Great COVID Lockdown of New Zealand 2020. Under his guidance, the Chiefs were tracking pretty well for a play-offs spot in the 2020 season, before the season was cancelled. When Super Rugby Aotearoa was played after lockdown conditions were lifted, the Chiefs went 0 from 8 against the rest of the New Zealand franchises. After he left to prepare for the upcoming Lions tour, putting his assistance Clayton McMillan in charge for the Super Rugby Trans-Tasman competition, the Chiefs suddenly went 4 from 5. They came last out of the NZ franchises, but were comfortably ahead of all the Aussie teams.
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Mar 17, 2024 19:30
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Gatland is a fraud oval office so it's p funny
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Mar 18, 2024 13:23
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Looke posted:Gatland is a fraud oval office so it's p funny As long as he's not the lions coach again.
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Mar 18, 2024 14:24
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The Lions vs SA 2021 series is the worst anti rugby ever played, and Gatland deserves much of the blame (Rassie too tbf)
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Mar 18, 2024 19:28
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68625302 Actual good news about English club rugby? I don't know how to process this.
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Mar 22, 2024 09:36
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I've never played rugby and am not terribly familiar with much of the rules, so can someone more up on them explain to me the proposed changes to the scrum law that World Rugby is looking at, because I've seen a handful of videos appear in my YouTube feed sensationalizing it as some insidious plot by the WRU to target South Africa; which seems...unlikely. I started one video by a guy called Wildkard I've seen other rugby YouTubers mention favorably and just couldn't deal with his energy. I had to shut it off within 10 seconds. I looked up the proposed law change instead, and at least from my uninformed reading it just seems like the proposal is that while a scrum will occur as normal in future, if the scrum is collapsed that the offending side can choose to allow the opposition to have a free kick instead of a second scrum in order to prevent penalties from repeated scrum failures because their pack isn't big or disciplined enough. Which seems like a rather benign change to me. It also doesn't seem like it's going to make having a good pack/scrum pointless, since you can still gain a scoring position from it via a penalty kick. I also noted a comment in the queue of that video that this was the rule around about 2006, and that larger packs still dominated at the time after Eddie Jones tried picking a more athletic pack for England at the time; which makes it seem even more harmless to the overall game, if true. I absolutely wasn't paying attention to the sport that far back though. Am I just reading it wrong? Is there more to the law I'm missing? Is this just a storm in a teacup some pundits are trying to use to drum up views?
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Mar 22, 2024 22:58
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The main change I've seen that folk were moaning about was the removing the option for a scrum from a free kick. Just now if your scrum is dominant you can opt for a scrum, milk a penalty and so on.
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Mar 22, 2024 23:15
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Aramoro posted:The main change I've seen that folk were moaning about was the removing the option for a scrum from a free kick. Just now if your scrum is dominant you can opt for a scrum, milk a penalty and so on. Wait...that was an option? I thought it was just a choice of either "kick for sticks" or "kick for the corner", with the occasional "tap kick" in order to try and grind over the line if you were 5 foot from the try line or something. I didn't realize you could even choose to pick a scrum at the time, and I'm not sure I've ever even seen that happen. Granted. I only watched Six Nations games or URC games involving the 4 Irish provinces. Is it more of a Southern Hemisphere thing? Or even just a South African tendency? 'Cause I only really just started paying attention to Super Rugby via highlights this year after seeing Mark from 2 Cents trying to scrounge up support from his viewership for the completion recently. And even then, I followed his advice, picked one team (Moana Pasifikia*) and am really only paying attention to them for now to see if it'll grow out my appreciation for the competition generally. * I picked Moana Pasifikia because they're a new franchise, don't have a great track record so it's not just "here's the favorites" or anything and honestly, mostly because I think their jerseys are slick as poo poo. I've been umming and aahhhing over buying several jerseys from their official store for the last week or two after looking it up, because while the few home jerseys there are mostly similar (and great), the away kits for this year and last year are pretty different and both great. As is, I just got my Italian jersey from the Six Nations shop since they were selling them at half price, and it's a really nice design for a team that seem to have finally hit a stride after years on the brink. tsob fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Mar 22, 2024 |
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Mar 22, 2024 23:28
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tsob posted:Wait...that was an option? I thought it was just a choice of either "kick for sticks" or "kick for the corner", with the occasional "tap kick" in order to try and grind over the line if you were 5 foot from the try line or something. I didn't realize you could even choose to pick a scrum at the time, and I'm not sure I've ever even seen that happen. Granted. I only watched Six Nations games or URC games involving the 4 Irish provinces. Is it more of a Southern Hemisphere thing? Or even just a South African tendency? 'Cause I only really just started paying attention to Super Rugby via highlights this year after seeing Mark from 2 Cents trying to scrounge up support from his viewership for the completion recently. And even then, I followed his advice, picked one team (Moana Pasifikia*) and am really only paying attention to them for now to see if it'll grow out my appreciation for the competition generally. He said free kick. Not penalty kick.
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Mar 23, 2024 00:10
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A free kick is like a half penalty. You can't kick for goal, and if you kick for touch you don't get the throw at the line out. It's usually given for technical infringements that aren't necessarily foul play, which is why it's often given at scrums where the ref can't clearly penalise one team. Your choice is either tap and go, kick for touch (but lose possession), kick infield, or scrum again. Most teams will just opt for the scrum because if you just won a free kick you are likely to milk a penalty on the 2nd scrum, doubly so for dominant physical teams which is why SA have come into the conversation. New law stops that choice. I'll be interested to see if this leads to more free kicks given at scrums for marginal calls when the referee would have given a penalty. Could be a good change for speeding up the game or could be another step in reducing the role of the scrum which I don't like.
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Re: scrum option, NZ and Aussie teams tend to tap and go at free kicks. As per World Rugby, these are the rules being proposed. Some of them are perfectly sensical, and I'm a big supporter of the 20-minute red card. Some of the rhetoric I've heard about them is loving absurd, like when I encountered some people convinced beyond reason that it also meant reduced sanctions at the judiciary for some reason. Like, the player that got sent off has no further part to play in the game, why would they face a reduced ban? loving ridiculous. I also haven't seen anything to support the assertions of people like Nigel Owens who have spoken out against it. quote:First phase: Law Application Guidelines reinforcing existing law A lot of the rules are about making the game get a loving move on, so poo poo that literally doesn't matter like throw-ins not being straight at uncontested lineouts or halfbacks taking an age moving the backline around at rucks, as they organise a complicated and choreographed dance routine that would put even Toni Basil to shame. Ben O'Keefe was on a recent episode of the Aotearoa Rugby Pod, and he was talking about how viewership has stagnated for quite some time now, so that's motivated a lot of these. Meanwhile, the elimination of the croc roll is simply about player safety, so fair enough. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Mar 23, 2024 |
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Mar 23, 2024 00:18
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tsob posted:Wait...that was an option? I thought it was just a choice of either "kick for sticks" or "kick for the corner", with the occasional "tap kick" in order to try and grind over the line if you were 5 foot from the try line or something. I didn't realize you could even choose to pick a scrum at the time, and I'm not sure I've ever even seen that happen. Granted. I only watched Six Nations games or URC games involving the 4 Irish provinces. Is it more of a Southern Hemisphere thing? Or even just a South African tendency? 'Cause I only really just started paying attention to Super Rugby via highlights this year after seeing Mark from 2 Cents trying to scrounge up support from his viewership for the completion recently. And even then, I followed his advice, picked one team (Moana Pasifikia*) and am really only paying attention to them for now to see if it'll grow out my appreciation for the competition generally. If a team is dominant in the scrum and has a penalty near the opponent’s try line they may opt for a scrum (especially if they have just received a scrum penalty) to either push over for a try or force the opposition into conceding a penalty and possibly a yellow card for repeated infringements and/or a penalty try. In the RWC SF between SA and England England were on top for much of the r game until SA’s front row (front row of the scrum, 1-3) gained scrum dominance over England and used that to leverage themselves back into the game. At one point the SA 15 caught the ball and called a mark, and for the first time that almost anyone had seen called for a scrum rather than taking the free kick. SA got a penalty from the resulting scrum, furthered its psychological dominance, and ended up winning the game. I don’t agree with reducing the place of the scrum (and not just because I am from SA! Our strength may wane in future). Scrum is an integral part of the game and having to pick good scrummagers as opposed to good breakdown players, a good throwing hooker etc simplifies selection and reduced the game’s complexity and richness. I am not going to correct myself so as to serve as a warning about the mysteries of memory. The Willemse scrum call was against France, not England (although the scrum winning the game against England is right… I think…) therattle fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Mar 23, 2024 |
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edogawa rando posted:A package of law amendments will be considered by the World Rugby Council at its 9 May meeting. Each is aimed at enhancing game continuity: Huh, that's very simple and clear wording; no idea why the one article I read on it after Googling the topic made it so complicated and apparently, completely wrong. Planet Rugby posted:If passed, a team would no longer be able to request another scrum if the referee awards a free-kick from an infringement by the opposition at a scrum. I can see how just removing the option for a scrum at all is more controversial, though that said, how often do scrums happen as a result of infractions like that as opposed to other causes, out of interest? That aside, I'm not really sure I get World Rugby's obsession with "speeding up the game". At no point when watching the game have I ever felt like the big issue was that things were going too slow, or that there was too much time between play and/or set pieces.
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Mar 23, 2024 01:19
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More like the Poo-lamers.
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Calling a mark awards you a free kick so stopping you calling a scrum for it might be really important if you're also allowing marks outside the 22
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Mar 23, 2024 09:47
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Crusaders move to 0/5 and they lost 8 lineouts against the throw that game.
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Mar 23, 2024 10:21
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Scrums should just be a way of restarting the game, the constant attempts at milking penalties or reset scrums due to collapsing is just boring to watch so removing one way for teams to slow the game down is no bad thing in my eyes. SA fans complaining about a WR conspiracy against them is nothing new though, despite calls for the game to get a shift on during restarts for years.
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tarbrush posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/68625302 with promotion/relegation reportly back next season htis could be good
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Went to Welford Road for the first time last night, to watch Gloucester beat them away for the first time since 2007. It's a nice ground but the atmosphere was a lot quieter than I was expecting.
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Vaders Jester posted:Scrums should just be a way of restarting the game, the constant attempts at milking penalties or reset scrums due to collapsing is just boring to watch so removing one way for teams to slow the game down is no bad thing in my eyes. Even as an ex prop and full-blooded scrum enjoyer I have to agree, the
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They tried to do this but I think they need to enforce it, if you have a dominant scrum, balls at the back and it goes down the use it don't just keep grinding until you get the penalty. You already got the shove and on the front foot, that's plenty of advantage to use. The Scrum - > penalty - > lineout - > maul - > try pipeline is just boring at this stage. Make people earn the yards. There's plenty for forwards to do on the pitch, you dont need to focus so much on the scrum. Oh and make them drive straight in the scrum. All of them.
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Aye, I played in the backrow so no stranger to scrums but the professionalism around them is grim at times. If the props are shite, get them pinged but otherwise just get the ball in and out.
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Exciting finish in the Wales Scotland match.
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Aramoro posted:They tried to do this but I think they need to enforce it, if you have a dominant scrum, balls at the back and it goes down the use it don't just keep grinding until you get the penalty. You already got the shove and on the front foot, that's plenty of advantage to use. The Scrum - > penalty - > lineout - > maul - > try pipeline is just boring at this stage. Make people earn the yards. There's plenty for forwards to do on the pitch, you dont need to focus so much on the scrum. That’s fair enough. Re-the lineout, maul-try- pipeline, I was going to write some thoughts, having watched most of the six Nations (but in the end didn’t think my thoughts were going to be that insightful or interesting), but one thing I did think was that mauls weren’t as dominant as in the past; teams seem to be figuring out some form of maul defence .
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Aramoro posted:
And make scrum half's feed straight!
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