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So this thread is inspired by a thread someone started the other day asking what "Hoteps" were, and instead of getting a real answer, a bunch of white liberals tripped over their own dicks to stumble in and declare that using the term "Hotep" is racist.  - it's an incredibly specific school of belief, and if anything, Black leftists/liberals hate Hoteps more than anyone. I'll let The Root explain: https://www.theroot.com/hotep-explained-1790854506https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw5bYlTs9Wk Hotepism is a meme ideology seperate from Black Power, Black liberation, any sort of cohesive Black empowerment movement, as it's incredibly anti-LGBT (degeneracy!) and treats women as property, leaving one asking the question: "How can you be pro-black when your pro-blackness only recognizes and benefits like 30 percent of black people?" -Damon Young It's sort of like looking at all the white men who hold all the power and wealth in modern society and think, "well actually, it should be us, but everything else should stay the same." It's very similar in form to the more mystical alt-Right/Nazi identities of white people that gently caress with Nordic runes and poo poo like that meme I'm sure everyone has seen of, like, the viking, the knight, some other dickhead all saying "remember who you are" to some random white dude a thousand years in the future that isn't dying from easily preventable causes - "we were kings," "wheat field gf," etc. The funnier bits that elevate this to a "Meme Ideology" is the more conspiracy theory elements that arise in their circles - I'll let HBO's A Black Lady Sketch Show explain with their own parody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNfoPKiUztE Now what precisely is a Meme Ideology? It's not a singular belief, as everyone has their one weird quirk beliefs, and it's part of what makes us human and individuals. A Meme Ideology is a rather insignificant, mostly online only political worldview that only has the numbers it does thanks to the internet's ability to lock people into bubbles and feedback loop themselves into becoming ideological hardliners. I know of some of them, like the one I posted above, but here's a breakdown of other meme ideologies, and I will break down a few notable examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3SM40yI8ec  Anarcho-Primitivism is a belief that due to climate change, human beings should abandon all forms of modern technology as it stands, and revert to primitive caveman tribal society. Of course, this would result in the death of untold millions who need the advances of modern technology just to live - glasses, medicine, wheelchairs, etc. It's like outdoorsy people that go camping once and think everyone else should live like this. A prominent example would be the DSA An-Prim Caucus:   for nipples Anarcho-Capitalism is a belief that all governments should be destroyed and massive corporations like Apple, Google, Facebook, and other for-profit institutions with a supreme leader, underlings, and a singular focus (profit) should rule over everyone's life. It's basically Syndicate 2012, and it's Marx's contradictions of capitalism after doing 8 lines of coke, as its most hardline believers fail to realize that these corporations are governments in and of themselves. A prominent example would be Sea-Steading, which recently lead to this incredible headline: https://www.thedailybeast.com/bitcoin-couple-nadia-thepdet-and-chad-elwartowski-face-death-penalty-for-seasteading-off-thailand   Monarchism is a belief that society should return to the rule of Kings and Queens having supreme power over everything, with all that entails. Basically, the French Revolution got it wrong, and feudalism was right. Which like, hey, if you really feel that way, why don't you start a tech or finance monopoly, since they're making everyone serfs in the modern era anyways. A prominent example would be the pictured above Prince Louis Alphonse of Bourbon, Duke of Anjou, who is technically next in line in succession, and is seen by some monarchists online as the legitimate king of France. He also likes fascists, apparently. Makes you think!  Anarcho-Tankieism is a belief in decentralized crushing of all opposition to the glo- okay, I made this one up. Please feel free post about other meme ideologies, and do not be afraid to come up with your own!
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an-prims are just larpers having a fun time, it's like those people who do wild nordic larping with facepaint and plastic swords (both are shirtless and both are nerds)
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Sep 20, 2019 10:47
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someone please explain 'post-leftists' to me
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Sep 20, 2019 11:03
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Farm Frenzy posted:someone please explain 'post-leftists' to me not to be confused with us, the left-postists
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Sep 20, 2019 13:59
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I'm still pretty sure Posadism is the backstory of Splatoon.
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Sep 20, 2019 14:05
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anarcho primitivism always seemed like the dumbest possible ideology to me. even if you can convince most of the worlds population to starve to death and kill the handicapped and give up guns wouldnt the survivors just use their primitive tools to chop down all the trees and kill all the wildlife
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Sep 20, 2019 14:56
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I'm unsure if monarchism is a real memw ideology due to the sheer number of the useless fuckers around.
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Sep 20, 2019 15:16
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funniest meme ideology is the trad caths
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Sep 20, 2019 15:28
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big dong wanter posted:I'm unsure if monarchism is a real memw ideology due to the sheer number of the useless fuckers around. also the uk prince guy is apparently kinda serious about trying to claw his way back into power so...
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Sep 20, 2019 15:29
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PYF “ultraleftist” ideology
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Sep 20, 2019 17:27
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Mercrom posted:anarcho primitivism always seemed like the dumbest possible ideology to me. even if you can convince most of the worlds population to starve to death and kill the handicapped and give up guns wouldnt the survivors just use their primitive tools to chop down all the trees and kill all the wildlife I remember reading some other anarchist who was like "you morons will lock us into a permanent degenerate iron age"
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Sep 20, 2019 17:36
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bernie sanders
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Farm Frenzy posted:someone please explain 'post-leftists' to me Far as I can tell the post-left anarchists are just bores who read Max Stirner. They think of themselves apart from both collectivist anarchists & individualist anarchists but really there's not a fag paper between someone like Bob Black (who is perpetually mad about Murray Bookchin & Noam Chomsky and thinks they are just crypto-Marxists) and Stirner. There's not really much to explain, there's a huge overlap with them & anprims so yeah, they are fuckwits on the whole. Bob Black is very dull. He'll moan about "anarcho-leftists" getting mad and splitting with each other & then spend the next 800 words getting himself redder & hotter & nuder until he combusts because AK Press gave Bookchin's roasting of the post-left Social Anarchism or Lifestyle Anarchism: An Unbridgeable Chasm reasonably widespread notoriety by the standards of anarchist works and thus they are evil anarcho-leftists but also a cartel and blah blah shut the gently caress up you nerd.
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Sep 20, 2019 18:00
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Would nazbols qualify as a meme ideology?
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Sep 20, 2019 18:09
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hotep is a slur, it isn't a thing. people lump a lot of stuff together and call it a hotep. by people's definition marcus garvey or malcom x were hoteps of their time. edit: like hebrew israelis are called hoteps and they hate hoteps as much as anyone else. calling a hebrew "hotep" is like calling a nazi "commie". temple has issued a correction as of 18:14 on Sep 20, 2019 |
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Impermanent posted:funniest meme ideology is the trad caths Are there as much trad orthodoxes as trad caths?
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temple posted:hotep is a slur, it isn't a thing. people lump a lot of stuff together and call it a hotep. by people's definition marcus garvey or malcom x were hoteps of their time. You say this, but there's absolutely people who think Nazis are socialists because they called themselves "National Socialism" even though Hitler intentionally adopted the name to make his movement more marketable.
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temple posted:hotep is a slur, it isn't a thing. people lump a lot of stuff together and call it a hotep. by people's definition marcus garvey or malcom x were hoteps of their time. this is absolutely not true
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:this is absolutely not true there’s literally two videos from black liberals explaining it in my OP too
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temple posted:hotep is a slur, it isn't a thing. people lump a lot of stuff together and call it a hotep. by people's definition marcus garvey or malcom x were hoteps of their time. Even the Root says they exist. https://www.theroot.com/hotep-explained-1790854506
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Taintrunner posted:It's basically Syndicate 2012, and it's Marx's contradictions of capitalism after doing 8 lines of coke, as its most hardline believers fail to realize that these corporations are governments in and of themselves. I'd say the most hardline believers are the ones that realise these corporations are governments in and of themselves, and think that's good.
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Sep 20, 2019 23:04
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every variety of anarchism is a meme ideology
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this is the perfect thread for discussing what minarchism is
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the name of this trash can of a thread is ideology
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:the name of this trash can of a thread is ideology
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Victory Position posted:this is the perfect thread for discussing what minarchism is isn't this just hardliner libertarianism, which emerged into the mainstream in 2007-08 after millions of people rewired their brains after playing thousands of hours of world of warcraft
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temple posted:hotep is a slur, it isn't a thing. people lump a lot of stuff together and call it a hotep. by people's definition marcus garvey or malcom x were hoteps of their time. lol
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Taintrunner posted:isn't this just hardliner libertarianism, which emerged into the mainstream in 2007-08 after millions of people rewired their brains after playing thousands of hours of world of warcraft it's a sort of state where the NAP is aggressively pursued and that is it: boilerplate government which provides police, military, and other functions to ensure that the NAP is enforced I think they call it some weird poo poo like a night-watchman state?
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Yeah Google calls it a Night-Watchman State which sounds like some 40k bullshit, that owns lmao
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Calibanibal posted:every variety of anarchism is a meme ideology all forms of ideology, like all aspects of human culture, are memes
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is egoism a meme ideology
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im on the net me boys posted:is egoism a meme ideology That would be Egoist-Anarchism and it has a flag, so yes 
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Taintrunner posted:That would be Egoist-Anarchism and it has a flag, so yes woah, who's this cool dude in the shades
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Victory Position posted:woah, who's this cool dude in the shades Stirner! 
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This thread is basically just an ad for JREG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkufPSw_eMU Taintrunner posted:Stirner! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqv9LGkG_7Q
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Victory Position posted:woah, who's this cool dude in the shades Drawing of Stirner as done by Fredrich Engels. As I mentioned earlier, he was a big influence on the post-left anarchists. Though he also had an influence on less dumb anarchists like Emma Goldman, and reading Ego and Its Own had an influence on Marx moving away from Hegelian idealism to materialism.
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Wanted By Weed posted:You say this, but there's absolutely people who think Nazis are socialists because they called themselves "National Socialism" even though Hitler intentionally adopted the name to make his movement more marketable. these people exist on this website, actually. it's why i'm not allowed in the milhist thread anymore.
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I like the conspiracy theory that Stirner didn't exist and all his writings were just Engles trolling Marx
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