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dropping in to say that post-leftists usually involve Stirnerites and Egoists Stirner's book The Ego & Its Own is actually a pretty fun read, and his ideas about reclaiming your self ownership are kinda interesting. So we're all scientific socialists, or materialists, and we like to make sure that our analyses stay grounded in material circumstances of our world (your socioeconomic class, as well as gender, race, and other social signifiers that may make determinations about your place in society), aside from what is uploaded into us by SOCIETY w/r/t liberal ideologies and our relationship to the means of production, we also take in a lot of cultural ideology, religion, taboos, etc. Stirner's whole deal is to reject all "spooks" or "fixed ideas" that don't comport with your individual will/desire, because these fixed ideas lead to people becoming enslaved by huge structures of fixed ideological power. It's very individualist, and weird, and to me mostly junk but kinda fun. Obv. w/ these kinds of "we need to annihilate all fake ideas and taboos that hinder the individual satisfying their desires" you get into gross Randian/propertarian issues, like incest and cannibalism and no system of justice aside from like, revenge. By destroying ALL ideologies and "spooky" thoughts that constrain us, supposedly we'll have free associations or "unions of egoists" arise when we need to group up for tasks (production, construction, w/e) and everyone will participate to the extent they want and only to the if it in some way serves their eventual goals. I guess the idea is that eventually you get back to some idyllic state of existence because underneath all of the ingrained ideology and pathology, humans are pretty chill/creative/social creatures, and even benevolent fixed thoughts (i guess just call them memes ffs) will become hierarchical power structures that can be used for oppression, but hey, I'm cool with destroying most of the capitalist superstructure and keeping some taboos and cultural coercion around, BUT THAT'S JUST ME. The funny thing is that, a lot of what'd exist in an anarchic society are exampled in Stirner's writing as "hey this is egoism", like for instance, let's say you're hungry, and there's a table with a bunch of fruit on it. You didn't grow it, harvest it, transport it, or put it onn that table, but you're hungry and there's a pear. You take the pear and you eat it, because it's your property. It's your property because you could take it and eat it. Is anyone going to give a poo poo in this commune? No, that's why its there, to be eaten by someone who is hungry! The bad problems start when an egoist wants to take possession of someone's daughter as their property. It's silly to attempt to destroy cultural taboos that are so ingrained in us that they're nearly instinctual, and in a lot of cases, are, because you're chasing some strange state of being bereft of any ideology. It's kinda like marxism or communism is developing a computer program on a pretty basic but powerful platform, like Node.JS, and egoists are like "nah man, we gotta get down into the KERNEL with some fukken ASSEMBLY CODE, ALL THIS poo poo HAS TO GO" That's why a lot of post-leftists are individualist anarchists or egoists or w/e, because it's seen as going "beyond" what the left has created and accomplished over the last 150 years into something that's more important or worthy. Considering every post-leftist I've ever met or seen is usually a very... troubled person with a lot of baggage and trauma they wear on their sleeve, as well as a lot of uhhhhh peculiar ideas, and I've only ever seen maybe a couple dozen ever, it's a pretty tightknit online cult. I think there's one podcast, and a discord at least for the Extremely Online sect, and it's probably a hosed up crazy den of drama.
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CHAOS COMMUNISM (i don't know what this is aside from something with a fashy symbol lol)
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