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One of the things that I've noticed in the video (which is probably quite low on the dumpster fire scale compared to the rest of the game's issues) is that for most of the text it actually uses the plain default Arial font (which is not even nicely antialiased). If they couldn't even have bothered to find a nicer font that is actually appropriate looking for the setting, I can only imagine what the thought process must have been with more difficult stuff! P.S. I must admit i skipped most of the opening cutscene as I felt like I was going to have a spontaneous lobotomy if I kept going with it.
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Cythereal posted:From a "Norse mythology reimagined as science fiction" standpoint, the only character I kind of like so far in visual design is Heimdall. Not that I'd put it past the devs... anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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Sep 24, 2019 17:10
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anilEhilated posted:I like the half-robot lady in the intro provided she turns out to be Hel. If not, why the Hel make a design that screams Hel if your character is not Hel? well. there's no reason whatsoever for this game to exist but here we are
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Sep 24, 2019 17:57
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For extra fun, read the glowing letters on our hero's cutscene sword.
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SelenicMartian posted:For extra fun, read the glowing letters on our hero's cutscene sword. Fenrir.
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Sep 24, 2019 18:49
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Man, Baldur is one of the funnest characters in Norse myth and they make him into the flattest protagonist with the most boring design possible. Granted, flat and boring seems to be this game's aesthetic with how gray and washed out everything is.
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Ramos posted:Man, Baldur is one of the funnest characters in Norse myth and they make him into the flattest protagonist with the most boring design possible. Granted, flat and boring seems to be this game's aesthetic with how gray and washed out everything is. Always astounds that the PS3/XBox 360 generation came a massive step up in rendering power........and they use it to make things grey then overlay brown bloom over everything. I am so glad we are out of that phase and back into games that know what a color is.
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Sep 24, 2019 19:57
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Well. That all sure did happen. I am so ready for this dumpster fire. 
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Sep 25, 2019 03:55
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Bogart posted:when asked about what his favorite class in too human is, known sexual predator and all around shitbird denis dyack said that it wasn't in the game yet Just to remind people. Denis wasn't just cranking it to child porn. He was actually making it.
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Sep 25, 2019 18:24
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Wait who what now?
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Deadmeat5150 posted:Wait who what now? To Err Is Too Human: Wait who what now?
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Sep 25, 2019 19:41
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David D. Davidson posted:Denis wasn't just cranking it to child porn. He was actually making it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOb55MaEna0
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Sep 25, 2019 19:55
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I don't think it was Denis Dyack, but some other Silicon Knights bigwig, Ken McCulloch: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-07-01-precursor-co-founder-ex-silicon-knights-director-arrested-for-child-pornograpghy
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Yeah that's it. Knew it was one of the higher ups.
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Sep 25, 2019 21:11
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Everything about this game is cursed beyond measure.
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Sep 25, 2019 22:00
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I remember playing this game and enjoying aspects of it. But if you asked me to recount anything from it I could only tell you it involved jumping and firing guns. I don't remember anything about the Norns and their realm, nor anything about the skill system. I do remember the ending being a massive letdown.
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CommissarMega posted:I don't think it was Denis Dyack, but some other Silicon Knights bigwig, Ken McCulloch: Yeah, Dyack is a terrible person, but not that particular kind of terrible person as far as anyone has uncovered to date.
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For as awful as the graphics, animation, combat and dialog is, I also think, even at this point it's worth a mention how bad the story is just so far. So, just to put the pieces I have so far together, and I know nothing about this game expect this LP: The Aesir pissed off...someone, for, some reason. And violated a treaty, I guess? So in response, those people started going around wiping out humans. After several months, a giant robot bear attacked a bar that Baldur was in for...a reason. I thought Baldur was hunting the bear, so maybe he had a reason to think the bear was going to attack that bar? Anyway, the robot bear attacks, and eats a guy, then gets it arm cut off and slowly walks away, and Baldur lets it go, because Later, Baldur is attacking some kind of fortress? That maybe belonged to the guys the Aesir pissed on early on, but is supposed to be abandoned but clearly nobody actually believed that because they came in loaded for war. They go though and discover it's filled with smaller robots by the bucket full, and every time the question of 'why are we here?' come up, Baldur has another flashback to trying to find out about the robot bear. So presumably, he has some reason to think it either came from here or retreated to here? So what I've gotten from this, that we know so far: We're an Aesir, which is not a human, but is supposed to be the 'protectors of humanity' for some reason. We're in a war with someone else we don't know, for something the Aesir probably did but we don't know what exactly it was. So we got a task force of human soldiers and went to a weird fortress everybody thought should be empty, for reasons that haven't been explained. And now we're fighting through the robots that were probably built by the people we don't know, who hate us for reasons we don't understand, so that we can accomplish a task we don't know yet, to complete an objective we haven't been told. Gothsheep fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Sep 26, 2019 |
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Gothsheep posted:... And now we're fighting thought the robots that were probably built by the people we don't know, who hate us for reasons we don't understand, so that we can accomplish a task we don't know yet, to complete an objective we haven't been told. see, video games are art incalculably terrible art
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This game is a long series of terrible nonsense mechanics that goes on for far, far too long, has progression systems that ask entirely too much of you and provide obscure benefits, and is really blatantly balanced around being four player co-op. The maximum number of players in a multiplayer session, if you're wondering, is two.
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Gulping Again posted:This game is a long series of terrible nonsense mechanics that goes on for far, far too long, has progression systems that ask entirely too much of you and provide obscure benefits, and is really blatantly balanced around being four player co-op. The game has co-op? I was wondering what all that crap about 'supporting your team' in the character descriptions were. So who is the other guy? Baldest?
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Man, I... I'm impressed already. This game looks like an interminable slog to get through. Kinda like Magus, but more esoteric and plodding. (Something something something "Baldur's Gait" Yahzee reference)
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Thank you for the summary, Gothsheep, I think we'll need one after every update. All I managed to get from the video was 'dystopian cyberpunk Vikings crossed with Warhammer 40k Spacewolves and also nobody can walk normally'.
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Can we appreciate that this game runs on the same engine as Guilty Gear Xrd? Because it does. Denis Dyack trying to plaster over Epic's code with his knockoff copy because he believes that he's not the villain of the story doesn't make this not an Unreal 3 game, which is what Xrd runs on. Xrd made every other implementation of Unreal 3 look like hot dogshit in old milk, but this might be the single most egregious example of people being made to look like idiot frauds by Daisuke Ishiwatari and his rock and roll anime wizards. Not that Denis Dyack wasn't all about making himself look like an idiot fraud because that was his most favorite thing in the entire loving world because that's what happens when you have a paranoia disorder and an ego the size of the sun.
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I love how cool this game thinks it is. Really in general the difference between how absurdly over confident every aspect of this game is compared to how poorly it turned out is impressive, especially with how instantly out of the gate it hits you with it.
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azren posted:(Something something something "Baldur's Gait" Yahzee reference) Also a LP where the first commentary is "oh gently caress off" inspires such confidence.
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Yapping Eevee posted:I was going to say, everything I know about this game is from Yahtzee's old video. That joke is why I will never forget what 'gait' means. I admit I rewatched his review of this game just to remind myself what it was all about. Gothsheep posted:So, just to put the pieces I have so far together So someone Aesir decided to waltz into the Underworld to steal some other Aesir(???) dude. Who had obviously hosed up because he was in the Underworld and not in Valhalla. It's Loki obviously. This pissed of Hel(???) to the point she sent robot Fenris at the thief and his entourage. Th thief got away and as a result they've broken some contract about probably not going into the underworld and stealing back people I suppose. Or I suppose it's the usual "Don't meddle in the affairs of other gods" or something. Presumably this leads to a long cold war between the Aesir and whoever runs the underworld (Hel???) which involves weird robot monsters that Bald-er has gotten wind off and "fights" Grinder Bear in the bar before it buggers off. Then Bald-er makes the case to his siblings(???) about finding out where its lair is and goes and sees a trio of thirsty AI (or would it just be one thirsty AI?) as well just because. And suddenly were in a spooky frozen castle that is beyond The Wall(!!!) and filed with murder robutts. All told in the worst and most confusing way possible because the writers were massive hacks and they obviously needed wanted to play coy for their planned trilogy. Almost going as far as doing flashbacks on flashbacks.
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Gothsheep posted:For as awful as the graphics, animation, combat and dialog is, I also think, even at this point it's worth a mention how bad the story is just so far. This is then ruined by Balder fooling around and not exactly meaning business and overall coming off as an idiot. This is also how I suspect the whole game is written, it contains component of good storytelling used very poorly. Take Balder and Freyja as an example. There seems to be something going on between them, but there's also a barrier between them making things difficult. That's the basic setup for a romantic drama, two people love each other, but there's a problem preventing them from just becoming a couple and being happy together. However, in the very same cutscene where the game hints at an interesting problem, we see Balder doing his usual being a super-boring character, thereby also informing us that, no, there is nothing of interest to see here! There's also a scene where Heimdall (I think) doesn't want to send an expedition for the sake of helping humans, but gives in once Balder informs him that they are supposed to be the protectors of the humans. This together with what a human said in the bar scene implies that the Aesir aren't as enthusiastic about protecting humans as they once were, but hasn't yet reached the point where they are willing to just abandon that idea. Once again though, the game doesn't sell the idea that anything interesting will come out of this for various reasons. Personally, I think this is what usually happens when you have a bad writer attempting to make a complex and nuanced story. They get the ingredients needed, but then has no real idea what to do with it and just thrown it into the blender.
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That opening cutscene is amazing. Almost no establishing of what is even going on. Just ‘here, have this game’ Then it goes on for almost 10 minutes.
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Cooked Auto posted:So someone Aesir decided to waltz into the Underworld to steal some other Aesir(???) dude. Who had obviously hosed up because he was in the Underworld and not in Valhalla. It's Loki obviously. Or it's Baldur's ?wife? he mentioned to Freya, I wasn't paying close enough attention to see whether it was specifically a guy. "Hero violates the natural order for the sake of the woman he loves, disastrous consequences for the world ensue" is a classic story in mythologies the world over, and fiction in general. Crystalgate posted:The first cutscene would actually have a lot of merits if the rest of the game could play on it. We see a god doing something that has "forbidden" and "foreboding" written all over it. Then when someone tries to stop him, a bunch of humans seem all too willing to die to buy the god enough time to fulfill his mission while the god seems all too willing to let them do so. This sends a message that the Aesir means business and don't fool around. At the same time, the scene also implies a very dangerous enemy and terrible consequences due to the god's actions. Looking to the sci-fi elements, we can see that the bad guys of this world seem to be machines. Baldur calls Grendel a monster, but also a new kind of machine that isn't acting like previous machines. We can also see that ordinary humans seem to be pure flesh and blood, while the Aesir seem to be cyborgs. I'm guessing that's going to be a thread in this story, that it's men versus machines but humanity's greatest champions are cyborgs who blur the line. Not exactly original, but as you said the ingredients for a decent story are there.
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Cythereal posted:Or it's Baldur's ?wife? he mentioned to Freya, I wasn't paying close enough attention to see whether it was specifically a guy. "Hero violates the natural order for the sake of the woman he loves, disastrous consequences for the world ensue" is a classic story in mythologies the world over, and fiction in general. Body looked far too bulky and male for it to be that I think.
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Cythereal posted:Or it's Baldur's ?wife? he mentioned to Freya, I wasn't paying close enough attention to see whether it was specifically a guy. "Hero violates the natural order for the sake of the woman he loves, disastrous consequences for the world ensue" is a classic story in mythologies the world over, and fiction in general. It's definitely a dude, but he looks pretty similar to Freya and so might be her brother Freyr? All we see of the guy being rescued is his butt, so no help identifying that one.
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Wasn't he on a tree or something? I thought it might be Odin hanging out and studying deep underworld lore.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Wasn't he on a tree or something? I thought it might be Odin hanging out and studying. He's definitely hanging from cords or tubes or vines or something. So maybe?
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Freya is flirting with Baldur pretty heavy, and apart from how bad the whole scene is with no chemistry and bad lines et al, I thought "wait, isn't she his mother in the myths?" And the answer seems to be no and yes. Frigg is stated to be Baldur's mother, but Frigg is kind of a weird goddess in that we don't know much about her, and what the stories do say about her is often identical to what they say about Freya. There's a general idea that Frigg and Freya were at one point the same goddess and got split off into the wife of Odin and the goddess of cats, love and war. So it's like, she's Frigg when she's the good, stay-at-home-and-don't-speak-much wife and Freya when she's out doing her own thing, which reminds me of the idea that Hades and Dionysus were different aspects of the same god--when he's at work in hell, he's Hades, but when he's off-duty, he's the party god. So this sometimes leads to Freya and Frigg being conflated, and why she shows up as Baldur's mother in things like the most recent God of War. So, yeah, that's why in addition to all the other bad that's happening in this game it comes across to me like Baldur and his mother want to bone down.
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Going by the actual mythology this pile of poo poo is ostensibly based on, I'd have thought it would have been Baldur they were trying to rescue. That doesn't seem to be the case though, as we're playing as the guy and nobody even mentions something like that. I guess they could be keeping secrets from the player for some dumb-rear end "twist" later on?
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I could’ve sworn the backstory to this is that all the Norse gods went cyberpunk except Baldur, who was then considered “too human.” Being that I’ve never played it, I may be making that up.
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Well Loki was held in chains in the underworld so there's still some merit to that. Even if in the myths he got thrown down there after killing Balder. 
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Bogart posted:I could’ve sworn the backstory to this is that all the Norse gods went cyberpunk except Baldur, who was then considered “too human.” Being that I’ve never played it, I may be making that up. My impression so far is that this is supposed to be the distant past, and Norse myth is "actually" based on barely-remembered stories of this sci-fi civilization and their doomed war against the machines.
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But where does defrauding X-men Levebds come into play?
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