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vanisher posted:Good god red pandas need a ton of climbable stuff in their habitat. If you use the traversable area overlay you should be able to see potential escape points
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vanisher posted:Good god red pandas need a ton of climbable stuff in their habitat. Put trees far from walls, mae sure the walls are not climbable or any climbable stuff is far from the walls. surrand the habitats with rocks that are not climbable. Also on the keeper thing. He first takes a look then goes makes the food, then comes back and pours it. You need to habe a gently caress ton of keepers I think at least 3 or per habitat, also size matters. What I would like to see changed is that you can set how much food the habitat should have, since currently that is decided by the stupid keepers
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Nov 12, 2019 02:57
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Thanks for the tips on the non escapable habitats friends
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Nov 12, 2019 04:29
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Hope it helps. Consider that most of the monkeys or animals that climb can jump to, there is an overlay that can tell you a risk and what time of animal leaving the habitat, its the second from left to right I think. Sorry for my terrible spelling. I think the pewfouls are getting the worst out of me with how much sex they can have in a year.
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Nov 12, 2019 08:53
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Nov 12, 2019 10:06
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Well I probably should have asked BEFORE I got the game, but, I love park games, business sims and zoos, so... yeah. And wow, I have to say I very rarely care about the graphics in a game at all but I am VERY impressed at the animal models and their animations, these are really good. Oh yeah, my question. I recall hearing people complain that animals died too quickly from old age. Was that ever changed or patched or is it something I can tweak/mod on my own?
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Nov 18, 2019 00:39
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I dunno about bugs, my complaint in that regard is that the pacing of the game seems very off, as animals will grow old and die and force you to juggle offspring to replace them, trades and contraceptives for every habitat and exhibition just to keep your animal population within the parameters that they're happy with. I think I would like to just set the game speed a lot slower so I can build new stuff while seeing animals and people milling about in the background without feeling that something is always on fire somewhere.
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I have another question. I finished the first tutorial and then played franchise mode for a few hours. Making money was not an issue, I have a financially sustainable park. My question is, what is the appeal of franchise mode? I feel like I may be missing something. The only way to get new animals is to filter for cash and then spend my precious real life gaming time smashing refresh over and over and over in the market in the hopes that I can grab something cheap which will certainly have horrible genetics. Am I missing something? Diogines fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Nov 18, 2019 |
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Nov 18, 2019 13:20
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You can buy animals for conservation points, too. The appeal of Franchise over Sandbox should be obvious, but the idea of Franchise over Challenge, I don’t know. Maybe they had more planned for the online part, or maybe having multiple zoos in one “world” has some appeal/advantage that I haven’t found yet. E: in true gooby fashion after playing this a bit last week, last week we were at Epcot and I found myself looking at the spacing and placement of benches and trash cans. WithoutTheFezOn fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Nov 18, 2019 |
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Nov 18, 2019 15:25
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How am I ever supposed to get enough conservation points? Should I expect to farm for 4 to 5 real life hours selling my deer and iguanas on the market/releasing them for twenty points at a time until I get the hundreds needed for a breeding pair of a single species I want?
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Nov 18, 2019 15:34
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Probably. It seems pretty slow. On the other hand, I can see the reasoning behind Joe Blow opening a zoo and he can’t just go on Amazon (heh) and buy a couple orangutans. Maybe not fun reasoning, but it makes sense. Could be that’s another way they’re differentiating Franchise and Challenge mode. I think you get some points every time you finish research. You can handshake VIP guests for 20 points, but that’s capped per day (5 guests?) You get 100 points per day for logging in.
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Nov 18, 2019 17:05
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https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/11/18/planet-zoo-is-temporarily-a-game-about-mass-producing-knackered-warthogs/quote:those who had got in early on endangered, prestige or hard-to-breed animals are now hoarding them, only selling them for wild sums. Prices have soared, making gorillas, tigers and the rest completely inaccessible to new players, while Pandas have become virtually mythical: beasts that might as well be made from pure diamond. quote:Oh, and to make matters even more splendid, the animals people are selling on are the ones with genetic mutations that make them undesirable for further breeding – they might be highly susceptible to disease, tiny, incredibly short-lived, or even completely infertile. These sell for the lowest prices as well, naturally. Starting off as a new player, then, with your tiny pool of CC, you’re going to be spending a lot of time scrolling through pages and pages of dying mutants, desperately seeking something that won’t horrify your guests, and might have a chance of breeding. quote:any attempt to simulate an economy risks also simulating economics, which is what we call it when millions of individual, rational decisions act together to create utter madness on a grand scale. Now, unfortunately, economics has happened to Planet Zoo. Video games once again helping prove that Capitalism is horrible.
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Yeeeeaaah just saw your post after reading some threads saying something similar on the forums. How they could not have seen this coming... I mean I imagined they could not have gone that route and I misunderstood it because this is such an obviously terrible idea? Too late to refund now, gently caress...
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Nov 18, 2019 17:25
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I think you can play in some kinda offline mode and avoid the “real” market? You’ll be at the mercy of RNG though. I’m not entirely sure as I haven’t picked the game up (I was considering it then Parkitect announced a DLC expansion coming out in a few days).
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Galaga Galaxian posted:https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/11/18/planet-zoo-is-temporarily-a-game-about-mass-producing-knackered-warthogs/ One could argue that it's another layer of realism of how it is to run a zoo. Rare animals are It'll be fun to see how their expansions/DLC packs will work out though, if they add more rare and shiny animals for people to hoard.
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Nov 18, 2019 18:31
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Just be glad you don't have to swear allegiance to China to lease-not-own a single panda.
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Kuiperdolin posted:Just be glad you don't have to swear allegiance to China to lease-not-own a single panda. Unrelated, some random video said visitors like viewing animals are different a goes such as in walkways over and through windows. Is that true? Diogines fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Nov 19, 2019 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:I think you can play in some kinda offline mode and avoid the “real” market? You’ll be at the mercy of RNG though. I’m not entirely sure as I haven’t picked the game up (I was considering it then Parkitect announced a DLC expansion coming out in a few days). Yeah, there's plenty outside of the online Franchise mode. I only tried it for half an hour or so, but have dozens of other zoos. I hate online everything though because I hate humans. That's why I like letting my tigers and bears chase them around.
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I think franchise mode is more about creating stupidly incredible zoos so you can showcase to the world. You don't need to spend hours and hours to get CC. Just breed something like peofowls or ostriches or warthogs. They love tho make babies. realease to the wild and start swimming. Once you get nice things like bears or wolves. Repeat untill you have a bazillion of CC. Red Pandas also work! Personally I prefer Challange because I hate spamming refresh or the lag to buy an animal that I want and for some reason end up losing it.
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If you need CC when you start on franchise, just refresh the Giant Panda page for a few minutes and buy the young ones with half decent fertility that get posted at the default trade price, and immediately repost them for 1500-4000. They will sell. Use those profits to buy some gold starters of any animal breed in the game, and you'll never worry about CC again when you start selling those gold/albino babies. I used this method to buy three nearly perfect West African Lions, and now I've got 30 in storage. This game is terribly addictive. They combined Jurassic Park Evolution with loving LEGOS.
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Do you guys too spend most of your game time paused because you are building or stuff like that, or I am the one being a coplete idiot with that?
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I usually only pause for animal management (population imbalances/alpha fights that I want to double check the results of) or when I'm doing something that will definitely impact customer happiness. I usually build things with the game in fast forward. While I'm busy building my animals are all making GBS threads out golden eggs. Unless I'm loving with pathing or something that can really do some harm to the park, pausing just reduces my CC income.
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I generally keep it running until there’s popups that require attention. In other words it’s paused a lot.
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Probably one of my issues is habing too many animals in the same habitat. Also, do you guys too have issues with janitors not celaning and mechancis nto reparing vandalized poo poo ?
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It's fun to dig to the center of the Earth or way up in the sky and keep all your animals there. People seem to be fine with winding around paths for 23 minutes to get there.
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Quick question: do alpha fights ever stop? Like, shouldn't one win and establish the hierarchy at least for a while?
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Dreadwind posted:Quick question: do alpha fights ever stop? Like, shouldn't one win and establish the hierarchy at least for a while? They'll stop if you remove all the other potential alphas, but otherwise I don't believe the truces last long.
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It also depends on the species. If they can tolerate multiple individuals of the same gender (chimpanzee, hyenas etc.) they'll alpha fight periodically and usually without major injuries (the game still warns you as if it were a big deal which is annoying). If they only tolerate a single male (lions, gemsbok, tons of others) they will usually keep fighting till one of them dies
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MikeStmria posted:Probably one of my issues is habing too many animals in the same habitat. Also, do you guys too have issues with janitors not celaning and mechancis nto reparing vandalized poo poo ? Too many animals seems to be the path to bankruptcy. I can have 5 lions and their babies and make money hand-over-fist. I can have 9+ lions and their babies and the cost of food will bankrupt me within a few years no matter how successful I feel my park is. I still sometimes throw 20+ lions into a pen, let them have babies, then pull out everything but the babies. Keep the best females, trade the great or just good babies/males, quick trade the okay babies and the rest of the males for cash to dig myself out of the hole. Buy a new male and rinse/repeat with the best female babies. That said, I think I'm giving up franchise mode and trying out challenge instead. I'll just pop in there to do community challenges every now and again.
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Chocobo posted:Too many animals seems to be the path to bankruptcy. I can have 5 lions and their babies and make money hand-over-fist. I can have 9+ lions and their babies and the cost of food will bankrupt me within a few years no matter how successful I feel my park is. I still sometimes throw 20+ lions into a pen, let them have babies, then pull out everything but the babies. Keep the best females, trade the great or just good babies/males, quick trade the okay babies and the rest of the males for cash to dig myself out of the hole. Buy a new male and rinse/repeat with the best female babies. I meant, different animals, same habitats. I tend to have only a male and female at all times of each species, and just let them reproduce as they please.
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Oh, well the co-habitation seems to only be beneficial. I dig the big African grasslands habitat with 5 or more species at the same time and haven't run into any problems there aside from it being a pain in the rear end to manage so many populations in one habitat. I just can't figure out how anyone is supposed to maintain a profitable park without tedious micromanagement of quick trading half the babies for cash. The one feature this game REALLY needs is automated population management (caretakers automatically box up and store all new animals of a designated gender aside from the one designated alpha, caretakers automatically box up all offspring of X gender, caretakers automatically box up all new adults once you reach a certain number in a habitat). That'd cover most of the bases the whole Animal Trading interface is pretty laggy and unresponsive (I have awful internet) so having to deal with it constantly is the worst part of the game. Chocobo fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Nov 20, 2019 |
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Chocobo posted:Oh, well the co-habitation seems to only be beneficial. I dig the big African grasslands habitat with 5 or more species at the same time and haven't run into any problems there aside from it being a pain in the rear end to manage so many populations in one habitat. I just can't figure out how anyone is supposed to maintain a profitable park without tedious micromanagement of quick trading half the babies for cash. I'm raking in loads of cash with no quick trading, sitting at 7 mil currently. Dunno if there's any secret to it other than lots of appealing animals and lots of shops (especially drinks) and donation bins. Lions are tricky because their food is so expensive. I only keep a male and two females, and usually try to only have a single litter of cubs at a time. Lost 700k in two years when I let them breed freely. E: and the animal trading screen does suck rear end and they need to do something about it
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Animals stored in the trading hut don't age. What qualifies as incest? If you raise 3 non-incest generations of animals, could you cycle one generation of males in and out of storage(grand children)?
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Galaga Galaxian posted:https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/11/18/planet-zoo-is-temporarily-a-game-about-mass-producing-knackered-warthogs/ Well to be fair, some of the species don't exactly breed that much... Like Pandas and Gorillas you get 1 offspring per mating event and you'd probably be lucky to get 4 or 5 offspring out of the lifetime of the animals... Can't exactly flood the market with cheap animals and keep the habitat going.
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Diogines posted:Animals stored in the trading hut don't age. What qualifies as incest? If you raise 3 non-incest generations of animals, could you cycle one generation of males in and out of storage(grand children)? Chocobo fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Nov 21, 2019 |
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The UI in this really needs a bit of tweaking. Yet another am I missing something question: With exhibits, when they have a lot of offspring is there an easy way of seeing who has what type of genetics? Apposed to clicking each one then clicking the genetics tab.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/11/18/planet-zoo-is-temporarily-a-game-about-mass-producing-knackered-warthogs/ Diogines posted:Yeeeeaaah just saw your post after reading some threads saying something similar on the forums. How they could not have seen this coming... I mean I imagined they could not have gone that route and I misunderstood it because this is such an obviously terrible idea? Sucks mate, but I think it still is a good purchase...eventually. They'll keep adding in some kind of puncture repair kits until its manageable, and that really good write-up in RPS - a pro click - means they won't have the nerve to try and SELL players the solution at least, which is what I was a little suspicious they'd do. They could not, NOT have seen this happening. This kind of scenario potential was literally my second question about this game on page one, just from watching beta streamers fumbling on the market. Its what fascinated but kept me arms length from the game. Does give me an excuse to say again: wit posted:
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its just higher stakes to play by for people that arent cowardly
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Honestly I have not had an issue with the market. I picked it up because the whole capitalist animal hellscape sounded like totally my poo poo but it's actually balanced really well where you have to start with less endangered animals to build up to getting the real cool poo poo. I started franchise with some snails, frogs and gilas and those frogs and snail breed like crazy so cash was a non-issue. Then I bought a couple of wolves for cash and sold their offspring for like 100-200 leaf points each. Then bought a couple grizzly bears, bison, and proghorns did the same poo poo. I built up about 2000 leaf points and just spent them all on some bonobos so we'll see how that goes. The market for them was pretty empty when I checked so I think that'll turn out good. Bout to corner the bonobo market nerds. Look at for Atlantica Zoo for some fresh rear end bonobos. I'm convinced that people bitching are bad at games and/or communists.
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