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I already said this but I'll repeat; this is them shifting blame to Pompeo, and he's going to be their fall guy. Whether or not he understands that, well  Trump turns on everyone eventually.
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:So as I understand it there's a few ways this could all play out, there's a pretty big difference between a quick impeachment vote along party lines that never makes it to the Senate floor, and months and months of investigations and public hearings of every lovely and corrupt thing this administration has ever done. I mentioned this in the other thread before it closed, but I have no faith in house dems to do anything with this. When the Republican impeached Clinton and during the entire Lewinski nonsense, they knew they had nothing and they knew exactly what they were there to do; it was all about slandering him and slowing down the process, and throughout all that they effected his presidency. Judge  's entire job, for example, during the Starr investigation was to leak to the press and come up with salacious questions to ask the President. They were just there to humiliate him and gum up the works. And yeah, they lost 5 seats in the house in 98, but the senate was unchanged and they also had a higher voter turnout, and they needed every single vote two years later. There's a lot to be said for dragging people through the mud, and unlike Clinton in the 90s, there's actually poo poo there with Trump. But pelosi will probably just hold a couple hearings where witness like Lewandowski stonewall her, then she'll send a letter signed by all the commission chairs to the DOJ or something politely requesting (nay, demanding!) that Barr file the appropriate motion to begin a separate process at which point he'll laugh and Pelosi will become "very concerned." I know this is "nothing matters" and I'm very interested to see how this goes but I've just completely lost faith in the leadership. Or they could throw a curveball and just say "take it away, AOC."
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Then why did he give them the money, plus an extra 100+ mil?
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's why people bringing up the senate voting to clear him is stupid - if they do it right impeachment will drag on until the election. Also you want this to come up in the Senate. You want every single republican to hang this around their neck for when the next horrific scandal comes out.
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theflyingorc posted:Pretty sure that's only a threat to Republicans in blue states - the ones in red states only grow stronger each time they cravenly defend Trump John Cornyn and Thom Tillis do not want to make that vote.
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theflyingorc posted:You're correct, I was just responding to the "each and every one" part of it, but nobody in purple states wants to make the vote - Cory Gardner and Susan Collins are likely terrified of it. Even if not all of them are vulnerable now, they might be later. Big votes, especially in the senate, have a way of coming back to haunt people, with Clinton being the obvious example. It's why the Senate goes out of its way to never vote on anything. But you're right, not all of them are in immediate danger. And lmao Collins knows she's dead in the water she'll probably vote no just to spite the state.
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If this meeting is at 4, they're trying to dominate the afternoon news cycle. What horrific thing is Trump going to do to distract them from this, since playing puppet master with the news orgs is the one things he's competent at?
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it's going great https://twitter.com/DustinGiebel/status/1176505148690092034?s=20 https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1176505268890406915?s=20
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Dapper_Swindler posted:jesus christ thats pathetic. just get glasses.  I mean he just looks so good without them...
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TulliusCicero posted:Someone buy her an account This whole board is basically mid thirties socialist computer touchers. We’re bystanders now. 
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The Glumslinger posted:The leaders of the Free world Bojo at least has a sense of humor about how utter poo poo he is.
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Dick Trauma posted:God willing I am going to see another Republican shitbag President get impeached and driven out of office. Yeah but who is that first crack in the drat? Mitt or Rubio? No one in the house obviously.
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Shifty Pony posted:Maximum comedy would be Graham (correctly) seeing he could get more camera-time being the face of the GOP impeachment supporters. Only of he’s retiring. South Carolina loves trump so much they cancelled their primary so he couldn’t be challenged to a debate by mark sanford.
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Ripoff posted:The pro-fascism elites will be promising Rubio a tea-party style Chud primarying him the moment his lips leave Trump’s rear end. Same goes for Senator Bitch-rear end-The-Blobfish, Ted Cruz. Rubio isn’t up until 2022. It’s only a problem if trump wins re-election.
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BMB5150 posted:FWIW This guy is an msnbc/morning joe shill, so this is probably pretty reliable.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/RepKatieHill/status/1176537420352954368 nice.
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Zotix posted:Are people actually surprised he did this? Wasn't the rear end in a top hat asked a few months ago after the Mueller report came out, directly if he would ask for dirt on a political rival? And he basically said yeah he would. This is just too glaringly blatant, plus it's a failson of the elite which is an issue that cuts across the aisles. Trump basically told ukraine that he's withholding money appropriated by congress until they agreed to help knife joe Biden, and he's on the phone doing it. When they agreed, he not only gave them the 450mil from congress but an ADDITIONAL 120 which I'm sure is going to end up in the right pockets. This is on the level of Nixon negotiating with Hanoi during the 1968 elections. You just can't do nothing.
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mod sassinator posted:Wow that's right, I remember Larry Flynt making a big deal about paying for dirt on repubs. What ever happened to him, he was a hell of a character. More importantly, who will take up the mantle next? Pornhub is progressive as hell I wouldn't be surprised to see them offering money for the Matt Gaetz dick pics that almost certainly exist.
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Remember how I said they'd try to distract? https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1176568991722221575?s=20 There's your fox news headline.
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In case you wondered what the GOP response will be. Ga GOP Congressman https://twitter.com/Buddy_Carter/status/1176571780045185027?s=20
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Biden is lisping his way through a speech on this now. edit* he took no questions
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She's doing it with a live statement via teleprompter and there's going to be a republican response lmao
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mdemone posted:Lmao I just realized Mitt is gonna have to vote to acquit, I am deceased I wonder if any republicans get hall passes on this one.
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Oh my god imagine if trump decides to speak https://twitter.com/ChrisMegerian/status/1176595123574104064?s=20 Please look away if this will....offend you
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Pissed Ape Sexist posted:Holy poo poo, evilweasel's back. Neat. He's been a fervent advocate for hand job rights for months now.
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There Bias Two posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1176604222709751809 Yep, no studying is getting done.
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And of course, on this historic day of days, Meet the Press is letting....John Podheretz monologue?!?
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Ripoff posted:Someone’s crying into a bucket of KFC while slamming the Diet Coke button in between each sob. Don't doxx me please.
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senator kennedy just called for an investigation into joe biden's son, comparing it to a crime suspect being assaulted by the police?
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nine-gear crow posted:He's melting down on MSNBC right now and it's great. Yeah we might see a man stroke out on television.
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Remember we won't know what the offiical Republican is on this until tomorrow until they coordinate between the House, Senate, and Fox news.
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MSNBC just reported that Trump called Pelosi today and asked if they could "work something out" with the ukraine thing. Pelosi apparently said "yeah tell your people to stop breaking the law."
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cheetah7071 posted:tangentionally related question: is anybody aware of any historical times where political norms get horribly broken and then things later return to normal (and remain a democracy), without intervening violence? Bush v Gore.
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McConnell sitting on it after tons of damaging info comes out would almost be worth it. That could be just enough to get him to lose in 2020.
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Gyges posted:Nobody is old enough to have lived through any impeachment other than Clinton. Oh god yeah there is. There's tons of goons in their early 50s, and one in his 70s. edit* ahh never mind
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Shifty Pony posted:Doesn’t he legitimately have brain damage? Not sure if there's brain damage but something happened. Drunken fall at a party, confirmed by his ex wife. Claimed his personality completely changed.
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STAC Goat posted:Don't believe it. He was always a corrupt, racist, philandering, drunk rear end in a top hat. He just got old and demented on top of it. He was in the hospital and definitely had an extended absence from the national scene. Something happened.
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