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Boris Galerkin posted:Something that you, and most people, can do right now is to stop eating meat. That alone is probably the biggest most impactful thing any of us without money or power can do. This and taking public transit to work/school every day are definitely the biggest things most people can do. Even if it's not possible for everybody every day, changing the default food and transportation modes away from the most wasteful methods is huge.
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Arglebargle III posted:WRT climate change, consumer choice action is a bad joke. A single fracking site emits more greenhouse gas in an afternoon than you could save in a year. This is absolutely untrue. Transportation accounts for about 30% of US carbon emissions. More than half of that is from passenger cars and trucks, with the remainder coming from stuff like freight and airplanes. Agriculture is another 9%, with the bulk of that going to livestock (especially beef) and food for livestock. The industrial sector as a whole accounts for "only" 22% of total emissions, less than the energy sector's 28%. Source: https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions While you're right that an individual is a small part, a societal change towards normalizing vegetarian diets and improving public transport options would make a real significant difference. PLEASE, anyone who is interested in climate change topics, go read some primary sources. I strongly recommend the latest IPCC Summary Report for Policymakers. It's not a hard read and you will be so much more informed than reading forum posts or popular news articles.
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theflyingorc posted:By your own numbers, if we managed to knock Agriculture down to effectively 0...we're still at 90% of emissions. If we all start walking everywhere instead of using personal vehicles, we're at like...70%. Which is a big difference, but also does not solve the problem. The long term trick is making it so that modern society's needs come from sources that don't spew carbon. Yes, we need to do everything. I'm not arguing against government action, I was at last Friday's protest. I'm arguing that the collective action of individuals does make a difference.
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Paradoxish posted:This is a problem that can't be solved by consumer action. Just to be clear: nobody said that it is.
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Sep 24, 2019 15:43
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Herewaard posted:Trees have been sequestering carbon for 300 million years. Go plant more of them This is actually a really good idea, and very cheap. As one part of a much larger climate change strategy (there is no one solution and no one said there is!), planting trees would make a big difference in the medium term. The headline is click baity, but the article has hard numbers https://www.summitdaily.com/news/experts-plant-a-trillion-trees-to-save-the-future-from-climate-change/
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Sep 24, 2019 16:30
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theflyingorc posted:Again, we can all do all of the things to"lower our footprint", and climate change will still happen at a barely detectably different rate. This isn't true though. A huge chunk of emissions comes from the consumer sectors. You have a direct impact on that. We need to do everything, and that includes collective individual action. 20% lowered emissions is huge (and, you're right, not enough by itself).
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Sep 24, 2019 17:11
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Arglebargle III posted:Telling people their individual consumer choices don't really matter to climate change (a true statement) Again, no, that isn't a true statement.
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Sep 24, 2019 17:23
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oxsnard posted:I have to see Jamie Dimon's smug face on tv Turn off the TV.
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Sublimer posted:On our opening day this year, our superintendent announced that we will comply with our new state law saying all schools must post “In God We Trust” prominently in each school. What the gently caress
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