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Turns out I brought a knife to a gunfight. And as usual, forgot I had ambrosia that would have trivialised the whole thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpgNcRsKIlQ drat you, old me!
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2023 22:36 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 19:27 |
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Yeah, I'm at the point now where I might be able to win the game with what I have, but if it's not enough to do the sun quest or parallel worlds then I have to restart. I need to do some of the crazy stuff to unlock the final spells and you can't do that with just a good shooting wand. That means getting teleport and digging and a good way to kill the alchemist for those greek spells. With infinite BHs and/or healing I'm in a good spot to run the Tower or go through WandMart, then I can look at making a dark sun or trying to get Friendly to the avarice diamond. Not having the right perks really hampers you in this, too. There's just so much to try after a few simple wins.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2023 13:23 |
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verbal enema posted:i just want to win one time When I first started playing I got really frustrated by only making it down 2 or 3 floors if I was lucky. I ended up installing a mod that would regen a bit of health during play and that let me finish it without feeling like it was in god mode. Once I got that done and felt more familiar with the mechanics I got rid of the mod and never went back to it.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2023 03:00 |
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The first time I found the spell "The end of everything". Hmm, how bad could this be. I'll stick it on a trigger - I'm not mad enough to fire it point blank! Ahh, ok...
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2023 11:25 |
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I recently built one of those terrifyingly powerful wands that could do damage numbers with a dozen digits. One that popped up that message about the gods being afraid. It was great to oneshot everything even if the framerate copped a beating. Then I went to see Mecha Kolmi and discovered that robots laughed at it. Tentacle with timer, heavy shot, spells to power, homing, divide by 3, omega, spark bolt. Great effect for so few spells but I'll need to add something to hurt mechanicals, plus I like to roll terrain deletion in my main wand to make it easy to get around. Gromit fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Mar 31, 2023 |
# ¿ Mar 31, 2023 22:25 |
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Yeah, I'm terrible at late-game wand building. I've got stacks of spells and decent wands but end up with pretty boring builds (although to be fair on this run I have no immunities so I can't get too crazy). Damage is usually only decent once I pile on loads of modifiers, rather than clever use of things. I just now replaced a bunch of multicasts with a pretty simple DunkOrSlam demo build using notes spells, and it seems to wreck most things a lot quicker. I need to add some other damage types to it so some things don't just shrug it off, but I'm not sure if you can ever build an all round killer when some things heal from certain damage types. Maybe I have to add some weakening curses? I mean, look at all this stuff (last wand is just for storage). I should be able to get something more going with this. Having said that, I only just made this note spell wand and it kills stuff pretty quickly. e: oh poo poo - just noticed what I've done with the order of those notes. I'm apologising right now!
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# ¿ May 15, 2023 06:55 |
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I go back and forth between the homing being on the main shot or the payload. Main shot means more of them land and hit the payload, but I also like having the payload, where all the damage comes from, target everything in the area of effect. Especially given the note spells auto-pierce. I also get annoyed when my main shot homes to something on the other side of a wall when I want to actually shoot the thing in front of me.
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# ¿ May 15, 2023 23:17 |
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BMan posted:I would like to point out that you have short range homing and regular homing Yeah, good point. I only have the full homing for a specialist weapon build as I normally don't like it. But if I have the mana to handle both then that would probably work well. e: unrelated, but there is something particularly creepy about homing rocks. The way they zip about, thirsting for blood. They make me do that nervous laugh when they go on a rampage. Gromit fucked around with this message at 05:22 on May 16, 2023 |
# ¿ May 16, 2023 05:20 |
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Well. That wand was one-shotting everything so I thought I'd grab 5 orbs and go to NG+. Missing one orb so took portal down to hell, grabbed it and started back up. Got to the lava tunnels and started draining it but got tired of waiting and decided to teleport through the last bit of lava to get out. 1000HP should be fine. Did that, but then more lava started raining down from the bit above that hadn't spawned in. I panicked, switched to my backpack wand by accident instead of blackholes to dig out through the ceiling and died in the lava. What a loving idiot. Didn't even Noita myself - this was just amateur hour incompetence. e: Still got 4 spells yet to unlock. Not looking forward to the tedium of getting Friendly and/or his minions to the avarice diamond.
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# ¿ May 17, 2023 07:47 |
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Using pollen to power a spell generator like this is pretty cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZg58h07rf8
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# ¿ May 18, 2023 03:14 |
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Hempuli posted:I'll try to get some actual new spells/perks added this week :O (although I'll try to be very careful with perk stuff due to the perk pool dilution issue, don't worry) Hey, great to see you (and others) still updating this weird game!
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# ¿ May 18, 2023 06:23 |
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I think I created Death Blossom from The Last Starfighter. It doesn't hit hard yet, but I'm looking forward to getting some more hurt on it. https://i.imgur.com/Aj3x9dB.mp4
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# ¿ May 20, 2023 08:40 |
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Right now that's accelerating shot on a triple of digging bolt, bouncing burst and spitter bolt, because that's all I've found. I put spiral arc on it all as well and it looked amazing but didn't really want to hit anything.
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# ¿ May 21, 2023 00:05 |
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While my death spray looked great and killed all the normal stuff immediately, Kolmi was an unfun slog. Got him eventually, but it took forever. In stark contrast to my Alchemist kill in my on-going game right now, where I hit him with the self-fireballthrower. Took 3 or 4 shots to get it to proc on him but once it did he died immediately.
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# ¿ May 23, 2023 22:56 |
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My 3rd attempt to get to NG+++ has just kicked off with me one-shotting 6-orb Kolmi. I'm expecting to get polymorphed and pasted, if history is anything to go by. I like the mad damage you get on a sparkbolt with 2 Explosive Projectiles added, but I hate the kickback and it making the ground so dark you can't really tell it from the background.
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# ¿ May 24, 2023 11:00 |
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Got to NG+ again and killed Kolmi easily. Before hunting the last orbs to go to NG++ I thought I'd spend some time rejigging the wand to beef it up. Most things died easily but a few were immune so it needed a little extra something. Tried spells to power being fed by a square barrier, adding to some further damage-boosted giant spitter bolts. Absolutely ate mana (had 6 add manas or something to keep it rapid firing) and was pretty pleased with that as a base. A shot reflected back to me for 2100 damage and insta-gibbed me. Noita!!
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# ¿ May 26, 2023 10:14 |
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Spinning blackholes would be great for traversal but the sawblades would affect my heart rate too much to use. Do things rotate as they spin around? I'll be interested to play around and see what things like chain bolt or plasma do.
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# ¿ May 26, 2023 22:41 |
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Freeze, melee curse, tentacle.
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# ¿ May 27, 2023 14:49 |
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Yeah, I've got a minigun wand by the Snowy Depths, just hoping to find a timer wand so I can plasma the bridge boss, and then take out the Alchemist with explosive boxes. I also only have 60 health left, so it's a bit nerve-wracking. Just got some blackholes, so will probably escape to heal and dig back up. You know, I've got almost 900 hours in Noita and still don't have a bridge boss kill awarded to me - I always early suicide it with plasma. One day I will leave it til later and come back with a legit killwand. My pick for "perk I wish was in the game, but would be poo poo so I'd never grab it" would be: "Good hands" - gain health by catching a piece of gold ejected from a kill, before it hits the ground. I'm always pleased with myself when I catch gold that is flying through the air and would love a little reward for it.
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# ¿ May 28, 2023 02:47 |
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Well, anything that kills him and gets you the award! Unrelated, this appeared suddenly on my screen and it looked really nasty. I eventually found the wand lying on the ground and it turns out it's just slime mists with a fire trail, but it looked a lot scarier! https://i.imgur.com/29IkLaf.mp4
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# ¿ May 28, 2023 04:52 |
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Given the slowdowns some of the effects already produce, anything that loads the CPU up too much, especially for something as common as gold, is probably not a good idea. I'm amazed that Hempuli spent even 5 seconds on thinking about this, so thanks for that!
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# ¿ May 29, 2023 02:12 |
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Yeah, as a level-scourer I really hate that status effect.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2023 09:08 |
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For me it's usually "rocks, unlimited spells, homing - you only get 2 out of 3". But a few runs ago I got homing+piercing+prickly spore and that's pretty amusing. Kills lots of things, including your framerate. Just died because even though I saw the swapper next to the robocop in the fungal caverns, I STILL shot at them with 40hp and a slow pingpong lumi. Got punched in the face and put down. I even found a wand lying nearby with rapidfire shotguns and damage field that my ghost must have died with (amazing luck not to have to fight him!) I'm constantly surprised at the number of times I have to say to myself "what the gently caress were you thinking, man!" One thing I don't like about this game is there is no sense of what to do. When I started playing it was all a mystery, and even now it is very hard to find information about what you should hope to accomplish as you get better. I've slowly been compiling a list of things to consider as you get runs under your belt, and maybe one day I'll post a guide that gives some suggested things for newer players to head towards, because I could never find anything like that when I started out. Even before you get to things like parallel worlds, breaking the reroll machines, the sun quest and NG+++ there are things you can do to unlock some of the other spells and little secrets that aren't too difficult and show off some cool things. Not everyone wants to read tablets and runes and hope they puzzle out the hints. Sure, you could go through the wiki and read everything and maybe piece a plan together, but it's hard to know what you should naturally be trying to do as your current Noita run is gaining in power. At what point should you think about hitting the Bridge Boss or Alchemist? What do I need at this point to not be committing suicide? I've spent 3 hours in a game and thought I was a killing machine and visited the Tower where I just got erased from existence, and that can be a bit disheartening. But you know, welcome to Noita. e: Just got murdered in the start of the Coal Mines by my ghost wielding a rapid-fire freezing fire-trailed shotgun. Thanks, past me. Unrelated, I'm not a fan of the biome modifiers, for the most part. Almost all of the ones I've seen remove some fun from the game. If there was a reward, like the chests had better loot or wands were just a tiny bit better I'd feel they were worth my time. As it is I probably restart the game if it kicks off with one active. Gromit fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Jun 4, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 4, 2023 00:56 |
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I'm hoping that true orbit unlimited rocks turns me into a shot-blocking crushing machine.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2023 22:05 |
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I'm still yet to try Nightmare mode. On a run right now that is just depressing. Down at the jungle right now and my wand is so underpowered. The only thing keeping me alive is vampirism and lots more blood. I'm about to reset the game because of how unfun it is trying to kill things.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2023 08:10 |
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If you're into seeds, I had one with a Great Chest full of hearts in the starting area. 181340380.
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2023 14:10 |
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If you ever think you're pretty bad at this game, I've got over 900 hours in it and look at the new streak record I just got. And a 1% win ratio!
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2023 07:04 |
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It took me forever to learn that wands with an "always cast" on them glow faintly purple. I mean, it doesn't change how I play at all so I'm not sure why they do, but they do.
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2023 22:42 |
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Thanks to ambrosia, a heart mage and a bunch of hearts in the Jungle, I'm sitting at 16k health. Watch me turn into a poly magnet in the next 10 minutes. e: I've not looked into this, but do the biome modifiers (darkness, ghosts, mines, weird gravity effects etc) do anything positive, like increase the tier of chest contents? I almost universally hate the modifiers, and it would make suffering through them easier if I knew there was some reward. Gromit fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jun 15, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 14, 2023 07:36 |
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18k HP on NG+. Had unlimited spells and homing blood mist with multiple damage fields. Wasn't one-shotting things but was close to and fun. Looking for add manas to help out. https://i.imgur.com/LlAhbMI.mp4 Turns out I see poly mages so rarely I don't really recognise them enough to steer clear. And too stupid to stay away from my own spells. So it didn't take me just 10 minutes to die to poly, but here we are anyway. Oh yeah, also had unlimited healing field on my tele wand, so it was a god run. Gromit fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Jun 16, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 16, 2023 07:41 |
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That one was on me, though. It's not like I waded into some hidden liquid.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2023 08:03 |
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Homing unlimited damage field rocks and blood mist that cause the target to spit out electric bolts is not quick, but it's a lot of fun. https://i.imgur.com/3K2CcBv.mp4 e: hahahaha, moments later I dropped into a poly mage who got me. I hid, afraid to move, but a rock found me. I can't get angry at this game for my own incompetence! Why don't I ever learn!? Gromit fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Jun 18, 2023 |
# ¿ Jun 18, 2023 07:16 |
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That's Scott, not Steve.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2023 12:45 |
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One thing I had trouble with in Noita is knowing how to progress. Sure, you can head straight down and kill Kolmi and win, but there is so much more. And nowhere could I get any help on what you should be doing in a good order that fits into your skillset at that stage. What spells to unlock next, what bosses to try and what you'll need etc. I started putting together a suggested path guide to fill that void, but not sure if I'll keep going with it.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2023 00:58 |
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With the new anti-homing spell, I want to see video of one of those screen-filling machinegun wands with bouncing burst or something leaving tiny islands of safety around all the creatures.
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2023 00:56 |
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Just died to my own hand (of course), but I feel a bit ripped off. I had electricity and explosion immunity, and the wand fired unlimited homing downwards-larpa electric spicy ducks with large firebolts and lightning bolts. It was awesome mayhem, but I fired it near the rocky edge of the Jungle and immediately died from 500hp. Not sure what it was that did me in. https://i.imgur.com/N1xA197.mp4
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2023 07:49 |
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Good eye, yeah I see it now. If I'd known he hit me I would have switched to the water flask as you say.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2023 14:55 |
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A first clear after only 22 deaths is incredible, and makes me feel like absolute poo poo.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2023 13:34 |
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I really doubt it would be per particle, but now I'm thinking about using them with "spells to power" to increase damage.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2023 07:02 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 19:27 |
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Mists only hit twice a second or so, not every tick.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2023 08:29 |