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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

thespaceinvader posted:

That is our Nerd Squad.

Those are some fun characters. I especially like the idea of a Malkavian neurologist.

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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Dave B is the only reason I gave Mage a second look and I'm glad I did.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Mors Rattus posted:

I mostly just think giving solid population statistics is a very bad idea.

Yeah. Everybody knows being able to flesh out a city with as many vampires as you want is just more fun. Having a city where you can have a Prince and Primogen if there's only one of each clan is kinda boring. Broods are fun, and having a PC be a member is fun, because nobody fights like undead family. Just go as the spirit moves you.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Helical Nightmares posted:

Werewolf the Apocalypse is getting a video game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NziTWE3DcwQ

Is the protagonist still going to be an extremely white Fianna? (I kid, of course he will be.) Oooh! Even better if he finds out he's actually the Last White Howler!

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Kurieg posted:

The idea is that either through some kind of resonance, symbology, or ancestral past nastification, you read enough as "Fire spirit" or "Tree Spirit" that spirits of that type are more likely to obey you. It's really only useful if you know you'll be dealing with a specific type of spirit quite often.

If you ST is generous enough, I could see a Glass Walker or Bone Gnawer taking it for 'urban.'

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Desiden posted:

Oh boy, the werewolf video game trailer! With no gameplay, natch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6uuGf_3k_8

Good to know the 90s aren't dying with W5. Though I suppose that isn't completely fair. The graphics are at least the aughts.

Also they apparently have an as yet unspecified developer for the TTRPG. Guessing its not Modiphius since why wouldn't they announce that. Maybe its the FATAL guys.

Sure are a lot of gristly white dudes bein' muh werewolves in that trailer.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Loomer posted:

Yeah, that was the idea. It really doesn't make any sense as a curse on the Assamites, unless the Assamite elder in question is aware of the cut secret origin of Ur-Shulgi as a bizarre Nephandi-Baali-Assamite fusion. I was basically just going for 'hahaha you're really just tzimisce bloodline you nerds, you picked the worst vampire clan to steal blood from because Saulot's been loving with you since before Goratrix even thought of his ritual and wanted to use you to avenge the death of his childe and exterminate his own clan'

Also the Eldest is going to wake up and eat you too one day. Have fun!

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Jonas Albrecht posted:

Ah yes, the thing everyone loves about W:tA, the impergium.

Hashtag the Red Talons were right.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Kurieg posted:

Vampire engaged with the main premise of feeding by straight up acknowledging that it was hosed up. Feeding was bad and the best you could hope for was informed consent from someone, and even then the act of feeding is still harmful. The game forces you to acknowledge that you are a monster and decide for yourself how far you're willing to go to perpetuate that life.

Beast alternately treats it's means of feeding as either "the victim deserved it" or "the victim is better off afterwards" despite the fact that Beast Feeding inflicts breaking points. And the game never deals with the "Do we have a right to exist" Question because it straight up answers it in the text. "Yes, You do, because you're actually awesome."

Doesn't it also 'teach someone a lesson?' Although I guess that can fold into the victim is better off afterwards.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I know we're probably not as deep knowledge-wise on Changeling: The Dreaming fluff but did they ever hit at broadly a reason the Arcadian sidhe were kicked back to Earth?

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Loomer posted:

They're the worst in the book, and that's saying something.

Yeah. For a book that's nothing but bland toolkits, it was the blandest toolkit-iest.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Loomer posted:

You are all wrong. John Wilkes Booth is a Tzimisce from Dracula's Southern Days who was last sighted in London in 1879.

I am deadly serious.

Huh. WoD canon-wise, that kinda makes sense.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Vegas features in the opening fiction for both the Player's Guide to the Camarilla and the Sabbat and it mentioned a couple. You had Duke, who was a Ventrue ghoul who got Embraced as a "reward" for being savaged by a pair of Sabbat scouts. The scouts themselves were a Natural Born Killers-esque pair - a male Lasombra and a female Toreador antitribu - that you could probably rework easily enough into a more long term scouting pair.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I Am Just a Box posted:

Bite Me: How to Write Vampire, by Rose Bailey, is a spruced up look at the Vampire: the Requiem writer's bible by the time of second edition. The parts about the Kindred, anyway. The Strix get a bible of their own.

It's very good and should be read.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

One of my favorite things in WOD: Chicago is just a laundry list of Weird Things that could be moving through O'Hare International.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

While gadding down the nostalgia lane, I do remember the Time of Judgement ticker had some really cool plot hooks in one or two sentences. (Hunter still has my favorite.) They really did well in setting up a frantic rush towards the end and some would have been cool to see in their respective books, especially the once again super bland Time of Judgement book.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Just tell the Nagah who to murk.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

That's a cool and good theory, although at first I thought you were talking about Threat Null and wondered how to work it back that far.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

That Old Tree posted:

I ran a fun two-session game of CtD in high school, but it basically had nothing to do with the heavier themes of loss of naiveteinnocence or the death of imagination or whatever. It was just a big fantasy romp, but also part of it started with being normal humans investigating things in a modern town.

Yeah. When I ran it and played it was pretty much just... well, Urban Fantasy. Although even then we tossed the 'science is Banal' nonsense out. (Happily so did C20.)

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

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here's another opportunity to stress that Book of the Fallen contains Satyr Phil's real and hard-won understanding of our real-world's evils

Forsooth and hey nonny nonny. I didn't know they were going to try and re-do Destiny's Price or something.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Octavo posted:

Ryan Macklin did an incredible job with the revised convention books, but that team has broken up, and he's expressed no desire to work for Onyx Path at such low rates again.

The Revised Convention books are really good (save Iteration X, which came out when the Mage Revised line was originally going on). The Syndicate book has one of my favorite pregens ever.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I ride bikes all day posted:

Speaking of V5 live streams, anyone know when LA by Night is coming back? I went looking, can't find a drat thing.

There isn't anything as of yet.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

NikkolasKing posted:

I have no problem buying the odd bad book. This is my second one apparently.

What's wrong with it though?

How much did you enjoy Brian Lumley's Necroscope series?

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

"what if vampires but The Thing" is unacceptable, however, "what if vampires but Voodoo," "what if vampires but Sex Pistols," "what if vampires but EgyptEgyptEgypt?" A-OK. PS all vampires are descendants from Caine except the ones who aren't. But even then, Maybe.

Old World Of Darkness is a LARP where everyone is dressed like Neo hiding behind curtains just muttering "vlah!" over and over.

The ennui denotes the mark of the true fan.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Loomer posted:

There's been at least three Smiling Lords - two chosen directly by Charon, and one by the other Deathlords. He's probably the most replaced of all the Deathlords.

On the other hand, I feel like the Skeletal Lord has never been replaced and... well, yikes, you know? The same is probably true for the Beggar Lord who is arguably even more scary but is more subtle about it.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Darn it, now I want to run a Wraith game where the PCs are all attached to an old high school building (maybe they turned it into the building where they taught autoshop and other stuff in prep for trades and is the Guild hangout, because I like the Guilds) before being decommissioned entirely but costs too much money to tear down. For the kids going to the current high school it's the 'old haunted school building behind the gymnasium' some day. I'd probably cal it High School of the Dead.

Maybe some day.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

NikkolasKing posted:

Gotta say, Anarch has disappointed me with its info on Toredor Antitribu. They like abstract art...and that's about it. Great, very informative and helpful for me in envisioning my PC.

As far as I know, the Antitribu don't get much detail anywhere. That's part of why I grabbed "Dark Secrets," it is supposed to have stuff on Antitribu.

Also, on the topic of what the hell even is Caine, isn't Lilith also a mystery? Is she a Mage? A Vampire? A Demon? None of the above and something totally unique to her?

The Player's Guide to the Sabbat probably has the most on them with the two-page clan write-up. It's kind of interesting as it turns them into a secret sect backbone. Like... an Anarch Toreador is just probably going to be a Toreador who thinks they can get more out of being an Anarch or just pissed off their Prince and had to leg it.

Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Nov 2, 2019

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I Am Just a Box posted:

Acolytes: Angriest response. You've been given a sacred gift and are comparing it to John Cena. You are not welcome back to the circle until you take your inner divinity more seriously.

Oh, they're AEW fans.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Edit: Wacky forum double posting.

Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Nov 3, 2019

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

also wraith isn't a suppliment it's its own gameline.

That had many good supplements. Sadly most of them were at the end of its game line.

Edit: Now that I think about it one of its best supplements is the end of its game line.

Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Nov 3, 2019

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Somebody was asking after LA By Night and while it's not quite the same, there IS B. Dave Walters running 'Long Beach By Night' which might be enough to tide one over.

https://www.twitch.tv/queuetimes/videos

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

There's a fun scene in Greg Stolze's Demon: The Fallen trilogy where a demon meets a vampire at a diner and they both think the other's a myth. "Caine? Really?"

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

NikkolasKing posted:

This came to mind because I really want my GF to play Bloodlines. She loves vampires and video games and this game rules. But you cannot help but notice that all the hookers are women or that Jeanette exists or that Heather is a girl or the enlarge boobs code or that most of the popular mods are for female PC's. I don't have a problem with any of this - I play a lady vampire - and nobody recommends Bloodlines because of any of this. We love it because of its music and atmosphere and writing. At the same time, the presence of all these things indicate they were pandering to a straight male audience. Again, no problem with that but it made me wonder just how many women are in the WoD fandom?

Lots. Masquerade is credited for for getting a lot of women into the hobby. Did women play RPGs before? Of course, but Vampire was the first time I'd see women buying books on their own regularly because they were super into it.

If you don't think Bloodlines' sexualization will turn off your girlfriend, have at it. People still come up to Grey Griffin now and then cosplaying as Jeannette. I think people don't recommend it is because it looks increasingly dated and you need a patch to make it anything like a finished game, and even if you have said patch the controls are still jank and you can find out your build is pretty useless the tougher things get. For WoD fans who've never played it, it can be a delight but I don't think I'd ever recommend it to people who just dig CRPGs.

Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Nov 4, 2019

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Tias posted:

Speaking as the player of a vampire who held several titles in the necropolis city wrestling federation, by writing strategies to refs who then STed fights against other player character wrestlers, well.. the crossover fanbase is clearly there, and that was all that was needed (in the nineties anyway).

It always delights me to think that Monday Night Wars-era Raw (and I guess Nitro) was water cooler television at White Wolf, and certainly you can see this in stuff like EL DIABLO VERDE's write up in Children of the Night.

Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Nov 5, 2019

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

At least we know nobody's going to bother with a Kindred of the East 20 because they know they'd have to do it from the ground up and nobody wants to bother. I can't blame them.

(The Devil-Tiger Dharmabook is really good, though.)

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

It's funny in Demon Hunter X they make a big to-do of explaining the roles of the sentai team, which the writer (James A. Moore, I think) seems to have gotten mostly from Gatchaman. There's the Leader, the Rebel, the Nerd, the Big Guy and... the Girl. (Can the Girl be any of the other roles, you ask? It's not mentioned, because again Moore is going off half-remembered Gatchaman.)

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

The problem with the Keui-Jin is the Orientalist nature of the beast is so heavily baked in that you'd need to completely rework everything about them starting with their name. 'Kuei-Jin' doesn't make sense as a name as it's mashing two words from two different languages and making them kiss. The argument was that they call themselves that as a sign of unity, and it's like, congratulations you have recognized a whole two countries in the Asian community with that name. Add to that a lot of the books were 'ha ha foolish slow ugly gaijin vampire I will kill you with my katana you have no honor' and just endlessly talking up how kewl their powers were compared to boring ol' Western Disciplines (which are actually better from a gaming perspective).

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Going back over it I shouldn't be surprised, but they don't even really give South Korea much mention. If it's not China or Japan (and really, Hong Kong or Tokyo) then GTFO.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Mors Rattus posted:

maybe he should have considered that before he sexually harassed had dangerously smoldering eyes at women

Hey! That's unkind. He couldn't help himself. He is the primary caregiver for his female relatives.

What's that? How does that justify anything? Look behind you! A huge distracting thing!

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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Desiden posted:

Some part of Cappadocious' soul was running around the underworld for a while, though whether you want to count an antideluvian necromancy specialist as a "wraith" in the traditional sense or not I dunno.

I'm almost positive that there was a vampire now wraith in Necropolis Atlanta (which also doubled as Atlanta By Night).

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