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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

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People on Twitter are discussing how the main character in Legally Blonde is autistic.

https://twitter.com/FayeFahrenheit/status/1306310800794148865

Does that seem like a reasonable interpretation of the character?

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Aug 23, 2007

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Predictive coding explains a lot more than just autism. It's not mainstream yet but it probably will be in the near future.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Neurotypicals often don't have experience dealing with people who don't think like them and haven't developed the skills necessary to do so.

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Aug 23, 2007

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If you don't have hearing problems otherwise it might be auditory processing disorder. I know it shows up along with ADHD reasonably often and I wouldn't be surprised if it's more common with autism too.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Neurodivergent people are more likely to marry and have kids with each other than they are neurotypicals and that makes some conditions comorbid that don't have any underlying biological connection. There could be something there too.

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Aug 23, 2007

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for fucks sake posted:

I've also heard good things about Temple Grandin's books. Haven't read any yet but they're on the to-read list after finishing NeuroTribes (review incoming).

Those are generally the standards but some of them are old and don't reflect current thinking.

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Aug 23, 2007

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The biopsychosocial model is appropriate here. The relative importance of those three factors is going to vary from person to person.

It's also worth noting that a lot of the autism discourse is coming from affluent and educated white Americans. Look at people in different countries or even in other cultures within our own country and you'll see some new things.

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Aug 23, 2007

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The way I've heard that before is that for an autistic person, there is no such thing as a pleasant surprise. I think that's a better phrasing.

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Aug 23, 2007

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bend posted:

I kind of like the idea I've come across that autism is a bit of a catch all for a set of issues/disorders that have similar presentations and we don't have enough information to differentiate them effectively just yet. It seems to tie into the idea that ADHD is related to autism ( I have both, I don't suggest it, it's a bit of a stress out at times) and might go some of the way toward explaining why presentations even at the same level can vary so drastically.

Our understanding of various neurodivergent conditions is based entirely on how they affect behavior, and that doesn't really tell us what's going on. As our understanding of cognition improves we'll get a better model for what the various conditions are and how they're actually rooted in the function of the brain, and it seems pretty unlikely that the current taxonomy will survive that.

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Aug 23, 2007

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The_Fuzzinator posted:

and dont get me started on groups demanding you talk in voice chat because they cant be arsed to read text chat. i have a deep masculine voice that does *not* fit how i want People to view me so vocalizing to strangers who are going to call me a guy Does not make me feel good.

Have you looked into voice modulation software?

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Aug 23, 2007

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Schizophrenics are generally allistic but clearly aren't neurotypical.

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Aug 23, 2007

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A few people do that but they're highly visible so a lot of people assume that it's a lot more common than it really is.

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Aug 23, 2007

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It's been a long time since this thread was really functioning as an Ask Me thread. It's been e/n style for pretty much as long as I've been reading it.

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Aug 23, 2007

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Grassy Knowles posted:

Why was Hans Asperger controversial?

Nazi.

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