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lllllllllllllllllll posted:How did and do you feel about SA's and the internet's general use of the word autistic as narrow-minded and obviously ignoring the human/emotional aspect of something? The colloquial use of the term isn't wrong and typically focuses on the lack of social ability, strong habits and resistance to change and obsessive behaviour. The problem is that most of the autistic people you're likely to meet are high functioning, and it's very likely you've met a bunch of them without ever realizing they were. There's also false positives to consider, people can be socially challenged or maladjusted for different reasons, a lot of normal people will fight you tooth and nail for trying to change things, and in my experience the obsessive behaviour is different from what most people thing. Less "ooh, have to make perfectly identical" and more "painstakingly order your toys from smallest to biggest" or "know all the serial numbers of the planes at a given airforce base, and which squadron they're attached to." Do I think this really matters, though? I'm divided on it. On the one hand, the prejudgement can be very real. I've been treated like a goddamn imbecile on several occasions after I told people that I'm autistic, I've been told by "friends" and family that my opinion doesn't matter because I'm autistic. On the other hand, because the understanding of autism is normally childish at best, I can function in society just fine, without anyone realizing. And I prefer to keep it that way, because of the above.
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 17:02 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 13:53 |
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underage at the vape shop posted:My question is how have you found dealing with the health system? I am trans and I've seen people compare the trans experience to the autism experience a lot. Most doctors have absolutely no idea and I need to educate myself to make sure I'm getting the best hormone treatment. I've had to educate even good doctors on language. There's almost absolutely 0 research as well and it's to the point that the anecdotal body of evidence of trans people is worth more than the scientific one especially because it's not coloured by prejudice. The comparisons Ive seen have always been pretty surface level, if you're okay to talk about that stuff I'd be interested in hearing what your experience has been like I'm from the Netherlands, so my answer might not apply to you. I got my diagnosis while I was in the mental health system for depression and panic disorder. Most of the clinical staff didn't know about autism. I only got found out when I got into a group led by a psychologist, who had specialized in autists. For my diagnosis and further help, there was a separate clinic for autists and ADD/ADHD. And as it might imply, the people working there knew their stuff. As far as I'm aware, this is how things are typically arranged in my country.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2019 14:35 |
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credburn posted:How do you feel about the autistic person/person with autism identity conflict? I personally prefer to identify as a person with autism, because I don't consider it so much a part of my identity as much as it is a burden that I find to be just a big rear end hindrance. I know it's kind of regressive to say, but I didn't get any of the "perks" of autism. My cousin, for instance, while being technically disabled, is a genius, with a stupidly high IQ and an incredible knack for electronics, programming, numbers, etc. His social skills are almost nonexistent, though; I know I've had it better than him, but there's no real advantage in any way to what I have. I'm just going to answer this as well, because I'm squarely in the "autistic person" camp, myself. So much of who I am and what I do is affected by the autism, that I think the autism is a fundamental part of who I am. If I wasn't autistic, I would be a completely different person.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2019 23:10 |
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Gantolandon posted:I don't really understand the difference between "autistic person" and "person with autism". English is my second language, but a similar distinction exists in Polish and I don't prefer one over the other. The distinction is about seeing autism as an integral part of the person, the autistic person, or seeing it as mostly separate, some sort of baggage you carry around, like say a broken leg. Of course, this distinction probably doesn't matter all that much to anyone outside the autistosphere.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2019 08:54 |
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alexandriao posted:imo that emoji looks contented. Don't use the label, but do get tested. My experience is that you'll discover things about yourself, and problems you didn't realize you had.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2019 17:43 |
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Honj Steak posted:I'm a musical instrument teacher who just got a new student (5 years old) with autism. He's only been to lessons twice so far, so I didn't really get to know him, yet. I'm definitely going to have to go through a lot of trial and error to find out what approach works for him. Does anybody here have experience with learning instruments and what was important/successful for them? I'm mostly interested in what methods helped you to be able to focus on a particular task. I suspect the kid will need you to be very clear and precise, and direct. This is more of a general autist thing, though. In my experience it's something Americans have a ton of problems with. If you're not someone who can do that, you're probably not the right teacher for them. Dance Officer fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Nov 19, 2019 |
# ¿ Nov 19, 2019 21:20 |
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alexandriao posted:Unfortunately I have Medical Problems so getting tested means a higher risk of disbelief with said medical problems. I'm also trans so then I get Trans-Broken-Leg Syndrome on top of that, which sounds like a literal nightmare to deal with. It also means that the medical professionals will be more likely to disbelieve the fact that I am trans, which means a longer wait for treatment, so that's another point against getting tested. I don't really see any specific benefit to getting tested (aside from validation and stuff, but I have that already from my friends) that going to a therapist won't deal with anyway. I... Honestly don't know what to say. I guess my advice would be to seek out some trans advocacy groups, maybe they can refer you to doctors who will take you seriously. Otherwise, I've not heard of autism and gender-related problems having any connection, so a doctor who knows a good deal about autism isn't likely to try to shove your other issues onto autism.
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2019 11:26 |
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Quorum posted:I'm a gay dude just coming to the realization that there might be something more to all of that social awkwardness, issues with running the gently caress away from relationships and not understanding why, reading constantly in class while acing the classwork but also never doing any homework, and literally a million other tiny symptoms I had no idea were symptoms... and, anecdotally, I'm inclined to think that yes, it's more to do with the construction of gender roles than anything actually biological. I fall closer to the stereotypical "female" pattern of behaviors than the stereotypical "male" one, which I attribute to the fact that I'm queer and, although I'm definitely a cis man, I never much cared about being "masculine" and got along much better with girls as a kid for the most part. Being good at school does not an autist make.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2020 22:30 |
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Quorum posted:I'm really struggling to respond to your post because it feels like you're dismissing my experience out of hand because I said I was good at aspects of schoolwork. If so, a) autistic people can absolutely be good at (parts of) school, b) I was both lucky and privileged in a whole lot of ways, not least involving access to specialized programs and motivated teachers, and c) I absolutely would not describe my school experience as a triumphant success. I made it, despite struggling in ways I couldn't describe or even really conceive, and at a psychological cost I'm still reckoning with. No, it was just weirding me out because how good at school you are has nothing to do with autism, it read like you were bragging.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2020 07:14 |
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Luneshot posted:Thanks for this thread- I guess I should type out the thoughts that have been in my head for a while. I recognize a lot of myself in this. I think it's a good idea to get diagnosed, if you can.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2020 07:40 |
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That's something that young kids do. Not really an adult thing.
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# ¿ May 22, 2020 06:42 |
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I have no idea what the aspie quiz is or what that score means, but I did do some of those online autism tests in my late teens, and always ended up with borderline autistic scores. I ended up getting diagnosed years later, after a therapist who had a lot of experience with autistic people told me she wanted me to take a proper test. Take that as you will. I've been in cognitive groups that weren't specifically for autists, and ones that were. In my experience the specialized groups work a lot better. I'm also in trauma therapy right now, which is specialized to autistic people. If you ask me, there's value in getting a diagnosis. In my case it meant getting access to treatment that fits me much better. Dance Officer fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jul 11, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 11, 2020 23:40 |
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I want to pile in to say that I haven't had this shift in perspective. I still deal with the shame and the pain of rejection, and it really affects how I view the world, myself and other people to this day.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2020 13:00 |
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Grats, I guess. Guess you'll have to learn the secret handshake.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2020 18:28 |
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I suppose there's some irony in autistic people doing character analysis. But no, I don't think it holds stake. Elle Woods steps into a world that's very different to the one she's been living in, experiences backlash because of it, and adapts and eventually succeeds. That doesn't make her autistic, that's what everyone experiences in the same situation. She also doesn't display any of the mannerisms and traits I normally associate with autism. Autistic people as a general rule don't strongly adhere to gender stereotypes, Elle plays them up. She doesn't stim. She doesn't suffer from the very significant changes in her life.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2020 08:22 |
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I might watch She-Ra, then.
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# ¿ Sep 17, 2020 13:51 |
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Klaaz posted:I still don't know what to think of this. These people really came over as very professional. The non private institution is specialised in autism so who am I to doubt them but it's still psychology and there's still a voice inside me whispering psychology isn't a loving real science If you have any doubts, you can probably have them explain to you what they base their diagnosis on. I was shocked that I got my diagnosis, and I thought I would be an edge case or something. But no, I was definitely autistic and hearing the evidence being presented wasn't pleasant but it did help. And as to your age, my parents were both diagnosed in their sixties after my diagnosis. Looking back, especially my father was a very obvious case. Dance Officer fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Oct 20, 2020 |
# ¿ Oct 20, 2020 18:17 |
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Powered Descent posted:Regarding diagnosischat, what does an official diagnosis actually do for you? For a number of posters in this thread(me not (yet) included), the diagnosis solved a puzzle they'd been struggling with all their lives. For me, it also caused a big perspective change in what I'm good and bad at. Second, and this might not apply to Americans, it opened doors for treatment for me that would have otherwise been closed. I and other people here have 'quirks' in their sensory inputs. In my case, my hearing functions much like a microphone and I experience all sound conciously, and I'm now taking a low dose of an antipsychotic drug to counterbalance that. A lot of autistic people have difficulties in social contact that a normal social skills training doesn't cover, the diagnosis opens that door. Finally, cognitive therapy and EMDR worked for me when I did them without anyone knowing I'm autistic, but now work much better with someone who specializes in doing these forms with autistic people.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2020 18:03 |
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Quaint Quail Quilt posted:What do you mean by this? I have a really hard time ignoring things without white noise, but can follow several things/conversations at once, it just makes it almost impossible to sleep with like a tv on or the like. I can go to sleep to music, though depending on what it is it can be difficult. I'll give a few examples. If I'm outside I hear the noise of cars in the distance, I hear the wind, and if you've ever tried to record something with a bare microphone in public, you'll know what I mean.
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2020 06:13 |
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gently caress off back to 4chan, thanks
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2021 00:44 |
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Comstar posted:Today my 3 year old son got diagnosed with level 2 Autism. You're going to get a lot of joy from your kid, autism or not. Autism can be a serious disability that needs you to take it seriously, but it's not like it's the end of the world.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 11:59 |
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Pixelante posted:That's a yike from me. Deeply uncomfortable sounding game. It's actually really good. And me and a few other autistic people are active in the thread, and talk about our problems.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2021 08:23 |
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I was once told that autistic people are way better than others at reviewing footage from security tapes and stuff, and much better at getting information from them. I guess it's a niche?
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2021 17:36 |
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That much is certain. A lot of people seem to be coping with loneliness; not me. I barely have friends and social interaction and I'm fine.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2021 11:53 |
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I was an above average student who had real trouble doing their homework. I had my share of problems and they weren't ignored by the school, but autism never came up, even when they ordered me to see the school doctor and asked my parents to have me go to a therapist.
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2021 11:31 |
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dustin.h posted:What do you think of Rain Man? While I've never been diagnosed, I've always thought I've had the symptoms of some manner of autism, but speaking about it has always been troubled by my mother knowing no form of autism beyond the fictional disease in Rain Man, and as I don't behave like that, well then by god I'm not autistic. A lot of people with autism are (mostly) functional people. If you want to know if you're autistic it's a good idea to get tested if you can.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2021 12:30 |
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If your friend's got a diagnosis there's a solid chance the school can/has to do something to accomodate him. It might be possible to have him do all theoretical work by himself, not in class with the rest of the students. There's a few students at my own school with that arrangement, but they started out in class and were granted leave to work on their own because they were clearly a cut above the rest. It's asking a lot of the school to do it like this from the start, though.
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2022 10:06 |
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That is extremely lovely but unless you're forced by law to tell your employer, your colleagues, family, friends, whoever that you're autistic, the option is there to keep it private. And that's what I'd recommend, anyway. A lot of people have a lot of lovely takes on autism. I was open about it for years and responses have been mixed, to say the least.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2022 16:46 |
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I have it too, but I've never associated it with autism. Just seems to be a thing a lot of people have.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2022 18:13 |
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I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, so I'm gonna pass.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2022 09:56 |
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Autism is too broad a spectrum for a documentary to properly cover. You're better off asking for books.
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# ¿ Feb 16, 2022 06:21 |
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You can always not tell your family about the results, or that you're getting tested at all. If you think they're going to be lovely about it, I don't see why you should.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2022 13:46 |
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You should not be comparing your daughter to you. She is her own person.nesamdoom posted:I got lucky to have life be hard enough that I learned to get by in it. lmao gently caress you
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2022 05:24 |
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nesamdoom posted:gently caress me because I didn't let problems stop me from being happy? You've gone way past that and internalised several really hosed up things as actually being good for you. Also realise that your daughter is 15. She's not supposed to be independent yet.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2022 11:51 |
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I guess it's time for me to apologize for making the assumption that King Baby's daughter is 15. I'm sorry about it, and the mix-up it's spawned.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2022 12:04 |
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I'm pretty open about it, though less than I used to be. My family knows, my friends know, my employer knows, a few colleagues even know. It hasn't worked out 100% great with my family, my sister treats me like I'm retarded these days, so family functions aren't fun. I also sometimes told potential employers that I'm autistic, but this invariably lead to me not getting hired, so I stopped doing it. I told my current employer after about half a year working there, he told me before that one of his own children is autistic, so I felt pretty secure in the move.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2022 09:44 |
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If you're talking about medications, my asd diagnosis meant that my psychiatrist could prescribe me methylphenidate/concerta, and risperidone/risperdal. The risperidone also got covered by my insurance thanks to my diagnosis. This all of course applies to the Netherlands and not the US.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2022 05:01 |
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I can articulate very well how I feel, especially to others. The problem for them is that I'm normally not non-verbally expressive. There tends to be a delay between when I start feeling a certain emotion, and when I realize that I'm feeling it. That doesn't mean that the bodily symptoms of the emotions aren't there, just that I haven't made the link yet.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2022 07:08 |
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girl dick energy posted:Actually, I do have a question. Usually, when someone says I don't 'seem autistic', it feels like both a victory and a defeat. A victory because I'm getting a good grade in Acting Neurotypical, but a defeat because it's always with this undercurrent of 'you don't match my stereotype of autistic people, maybe you're not actually autistic'. It's very frustrating. It's very common for autistic women to not be thought of as autistic. Less so for men, but it happens. I'm not sure how things are for people who are queer or trans. Either way the general understanding of autism is so bad you're better off not thinking too much about it.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2022 04:53 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 13:53 |
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You could also be like me and accept the compliment with a smile, but really not believe it.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2022 07:58 |