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Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


WRT fictional autistic characters, I’m frankly embarrassed to admit it but the only one I’ve seen in vaguely current media that totally nails is is Entrapta, a character in the recent She-Ra cartoon. Apparently she’s specifically and consciously coded as autistic, and it’s a pretty good portrayal of it, without it being the only aspect of her personality or being made into either a ‘devil’ or ‘angel’- she’s a complex character with her own motivations.

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Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


nesamdoom posted:

I just thought of something. Does anyone else use bracketing in text communication? Commas are sort of built in, but they are a pain and I think I'm the only one I know that will nest tangetial thought lines into parenthesis and I would love to know if something in my head makes me want to type things, sometimes, the way I'd write maths into a program or calculator(for example(not a decent example, but rather something easy) I'd be typing this and need to nest sidenotes in the sidenote(and then sometimes it also gets deeper(like at some point of time I'll hit having nested so much stuff, but it works to go back through my line of thought while typing when I proofread))).

Anecdotal, but I’m autistic and do this all the time.

Also using /slashes/ for emphasis.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


nesamdoom posted:

I actually dig that. Can I ask what decade your from? I think 80s influenced my stuff a bit from chat rooms and growing up with a pre-emoji text based communication.

Born in 1981, spent many many years playing MUCKs and other entirely text base games which is where I think it comes from.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Cloacamazing! posted:


Do you have a set order for them too? Red always tastes best, so that's last, and I tend to start with the less tasty ones, like blue M&Ms or white gummy bears.

Speaking of those, anybody else like it when the gummy bear package has been open for a bit and they become chewier? I've met only one other person who did this on purpose.

Oh god yes- hard chewy semi dried gummies are the best.

Also did/does anyone else have a massive reaction to the sound of certain surfaces? When I was a kid my mum’s car had this sort of plush lining to it that was my literal nightmare- touching it made me shudder and hearing someone run their nails along it gave me a headache, made me nauseous and would make me physically cringe. My mum used to drag her nails through it to get me to behave, and I ended up utterly hating that car with a passion. Even as an adult I’ve refused to buy a really nice (and cheap) car which had the same lining.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


So this is a thing which I’m not sure is a ‘me’ thing or a more general autism thing, but it just happened again yesterday..

Does anyone else find that sometimes people just instantly open up and seem to super connect/be drawn to you at the very first time you meet? I’m generally /really/ bad at making new friends, starting conversation and the other ins and outs of social intercourse (as to be expected), but sometimes random people will just instantly seem to be drawn into my orbit, latch on and instantly be super close. If I’m being honest most of my closest friends I initially met like this (and pretty much all of them are on the spectrum to a greater or lesser extent). Yesterday I was at work at a local artisanal market (I make and sell fudge for a living- https://www.fudjit.co.uk if you can forgive the plug) and a lady in her sixties came over to check out my stall with her husband (who, thinking about it, was almost non-verbal and very much was giving off spectrum-cues too). Gave her a sample, we started chatting and within minutes I knew her background (father worked at Cornell, she worked at Keele uni, she was American therefore ‘knew’ fudge) and she a fair chunk of my own backstory. She was super intense and really engaged heavily with me for about fifteen minutes or so, bought a load of fudge, asked me to come to a charity quiz she runs (I’m also sponsoring it with some prizes) and after I got home I had several super friendly and enthusiastic multi-paragraph messages on my business Facebook. So yeah. I’ve never met a woman of that age group that so absolutely pings my autism-radar, and while it was a very pleasant conversation and I’m always up to make new friends and contacts it got me to thinking about if it is something about autism, or whether actually that’s just normal interaction and it feeling so strange is a function of my own weirdness!

I don’t think I’m really expressing my thoughts super well here, but it’s just a pattern I’ve had occur so many times in my life. My wife teases me that I’m ‘the king of the autists’ due to how this happens so often and the people end up almost enthralled with me (while I’m very much on the spectrum I was also educated and socialised in a British public school, so basically hot-housed to be a leader or officer type, as well as a load of concurrent class based stuff). Which has led me in multiple nerd adjacent spaces with high percentages of autistic folk to end up in leadership roles, build up a huge following of acquaintances and hangers on etc. (And then completely and totally burn out when the inherent contradictions of being autistic, severely anxious and generally socially inept collide with being a leader, but that’s another story)

I guess what I’m saying is, do you folks find other autistic people easier to connect with? Are there traits that produce such a strong connection response for you? It’s a pattern I’ve noticed literally my entire life, going back to nursery school for me and I don’t know if it’s a unique personal thing or just how it is for everyone and I’m too solipsistic to realise.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Organza Quiz posted:

The term you want is double empathy theory/problem. It basically goes along the lines that autism is not actually a communication/social deficit, it's a difference. And not in that condescending "differently abled" sense either, more in the realm of a cultural difference.

If autism really was just a deficit, then two autistic people should have even more difficulty communicating/connecting than an autistic and an allistic person. In reality, autistic people tend to connect and understand each other way better than allistic people can understand us. So you're not imagining the feeling of meeting someone who's just on the same wavelength as you.

Wow, genuinely thanks- this puts in words something that I’ve struggled to define/explain for ages.

Also thanks for the nice words, HopperUK! :)

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


The only way I managed to square the circle was by ending up working for myself. Started cooking up fudge for Christmas presents in 2018 due to having been unemployed for two years due to burnout and had no money for proper gifts, discovered I was good at it and now I have several staff and hit multiple events each weekend.

Luckily one of my special interests happens to be sweets in general and fudge in particular. And weirdly my autistic enthusiasm and earnestness about it all has translated to being a really good salesman face-to-face. Apparently this is ‘cringe’ according to some of the traders at a con I did earlier this year, but even if so I still outsold every one of those fucks by some margin..

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Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Really wanted to be a parent, and my wife and I tried for three years.

Then it turned out I have crashingly low fertility, then my wife came out as non-binary and it’s all gone a bit fubar. So probably for the best it didn’t happen, but it is a bit crushing.

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