Helith posted:

The UK after Brexit: 'No'vember. No bread, no medicine, no Eu.

Jose posted:

https://twitter.com/chunkymark/status/1178912804230881280

Desiderata posted:

Why is she maintaining that fantasy? (It's because the dream of the sensible non-ideological adults turning up and fixing everything, sensibly, is the eternal paternal liberal dream)

mediadave posted:

Sunny is right, this would the ideal time and way to establish a young successor to Corbyn clean of baggage.

VideoGames posted:

https://twitter.com/Mike_Fabricant/status/1179001353777102851

Note the hashtag.

quote:

Lib Dem chiefs believe they can win an unprecedented Commons majority with a secret “Project 320” plan.

Party leader Jo Swinson has written to members outlining how she believes it can become the biggest group in Parliament and propel her to No10.

Headed “confidential briefing … building a liberal majority”, the leaflet begging activists for cash reveals a plot to scoop 320 Westminster seats at the looming ballot and give the party an outright majority.

“We will be fighting the General Election win... From our strengthened position in the polls, we can challenge to win a General Election,” says the document.

“We go into a 2019 General Election in our strongest ever position – largest ever membership, best ever EU Election results, best ever council election results and having won the Brecon & Radnorshire by-election cutting Boris Johnson ’s majority to just one.”

A separate letter adds: “Winning and seizing the opportunity we face will take a campaign effort the likes of which we have never seen before - and by joining Team 320, you’ll be a key part of making that liberal majority a reality.”

Pleading with supporters to inject funds, the letter says a £100-a-month gift would help the party “produce canvassing packs to knock on 4,000 doors in a constituency every month”.

Far from being in its “strongest ever position”, the party trails the Conservatives and Labour in national polls.

It has just 18 MPs – six of whom are defectors originally elected for Labour or the Tories.

That compares with the 2005 election where, led by Charles Kennedy, the Lib Dems won 62 seats, and the 2010 election campaign where, with Nick Clegg at the helm, they briefly surged to 34% in polls - ahead of Labour and the Conservatives.

Ms Swinson, 39, has been bullish about her unlikely chances of becoming Prime Minister.

Last month, as she prepared for her party conference debut as leader, she insisted to the Mirror she was ready for Downing Street.

Asked he she could really become PM, she said: “Absolutely – and what’s more, I think I would be a better Prime Minister than either Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn .

Josef bugman posted:

ONE HUNDRED POUNDS A MONTH!

These absolute insane morons.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

(and never underestimate just how much of a votewinner being good with dogs can be - if Labour get the Two Cities by one vote it'll be because I knew where the special scratchy place was on an old lady's Staff. Yes I know that sounds filthy, but this is what I'm prepared to go through for socialism)

baka kaba posted:

maybe your friends are wizards? that's how they travel in harry potter right

Darth Walrus posted:

https://twitter.com/obornetweets/status/1180132139729379329?s=21

lol

Guavanaut posted:

(Seriously, the press are going to use her as an endless resource of anti-Labour left quotes if she goes.)

Sanitary Naptime posted:

Putin in full bdsm gear makes me dread the Putin x Trump poo poo they’re going to pull.

Hee hee ho ho they’re gay together!!!

Junior G-man posted:

You can only wish that one day your brainspiders grow this large and powerful.

https://twitter.com/JohnRentoul/status/1180503261926821890?s=19

What a man, what a thinker.

quote:

In his entry for "Vampires" in the Dictionnaire philosophique (1764), Voltaire notices how the mid-18th century coincided with the decline of the folkloric belief in the existence of vampires but that now "there were stock-jobbers, brokers, and men of business, who sucked the blood of the people in broad daylight; but they were not dead, though corrupted. These true suckers lived not in cemeteries, but in very agreeable palaces".

Marx defined capital as "dead labour which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labour, and lives the more, the more labour it sucks"

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Is everyone forgetting this guy, the vicious nobleman who's the actual inspiration for most of the Western vampire canon up to and including two of the more common names?

thespaceinvader posted:

GDT should direct more stuff.

I have havering with a friend about who should have directed the new SW trilogy and we got into the weeds a bit about the Hobbit, and I accidently suggested Del Toro should have directed Episodes 7-9 and my god can you imagine how good that would have been. I;d give a major body part for a GDT Star Wars movie.

Marmaduke! posted:

Apologies to anyone interested in UK politics who didn't want to sit through 500 pages of LOTR chat. Also have been to Hobbiton nad spoke with a bus driver who worked on the films therefore my opinion is higher than anyone else's, unless maybe you've blown a dwarf.

thespaceinvader posted:

E: Re-rail: if you think there will even be a film industry by the time it comes to making movies about this period of history, what do you think Brexit: The Movie will look like?

A Buttery Pastry posted:

The first movie will focus on the joy of the Olympics, before ominously ending the movie on a shot of Corbyn sitting in a Nando's as a diplomatic car from the Soviet embassy pulls up.

Pochoclo posted:

What drives a Tory MP to switch over to the Lib Dems? I mean if they were just able to keep grifting as they are, then I assume they'd stick with the Tories because it'd be easier to keep getting re-elected, so it must be either a) they think the Tories won't get elected again at their constituency, or perhaps b) their campaign donors are mostly pro-Remain, and it's getting hard to keep a pro-Remain view while in the Tories?

Azza Bamboo posted:

Is she running there again?

I do hope the funny thing can happen.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Just came to post that.
What proportion of LibDem MPs were tories?
I hope the libdem base are going to take note!

Telegraph posted:

Tony Blair has admitted he will struggle to vote Labour at the forthcoming general election but warned the Tories they risk losing to Jeremy Corbyn by standing on a no-deal manifesto.

The former Prime Minister said the party he led was infected with "extremely distressing" anti-Semitism and "sectarianism" and he was extremely concerned about its political direction.

He said he had always voted Labour, most recently in this year's European and local government elections, but concluded that it would be "a struggle" to do so again.
[Can't see the rest]

Jose posted:

my brothers mate did 6 months inside and his cell mate was doing serious damage to his arse because he kept a mobile in it and used shampoo as the lube. he apparently only ever used it to just call friends to talk

Tarnop posted:

Pochoclo posted:

Like who the gently caress thought it would be a good idea to require ID when voting, in a country where there's no guarantee people will have any kind of ID?

Tesseraction posted:

gaze upon this instead https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1183408517518110720

marktheando posted:

I don’t want to eat sonic

crispix posted:

I want you to do the BBC commentary on royal events please aythankyou.

Guavanaut posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pnt_uT5YzQ

quote:

Police have banned Extinction Rebellion protests from continuing anywhere in London, as they moved in almost without warning to clear protesters who remained at the movement’s camp in Trafalgar Square.

The Metropolitan police issued a revised section 14 order on Monday night that said “any assembly linked to the Extinction Rebellion ‘Autumn Uprising’ ... must now cease their protests within London (MPS and City of London Police Areas)” by 9pm.

Almost immediately, officers moved into Trafalgar Square and demanded that protesters remove their tents. Most XR activists staying at the site had already decamped to Vauxhall Pleasure Gardens, south of the river, and only a few dozen tents, along with gazebos and other infrastructure, remained on the square.

More than 1,400 people have been arrested during eight days of XR action, with the threat that anyone defying police orders would be detained.

Until Monday night, Trafalgar Square had been specified by the Met as the only legitimate protest site and officers had been telling protesters to go to the square if they wanted to continue protesting.

Howard Rees, an XR spokesman who was at the scene, told the Guardian that police started clearing Trafalgar Square before even issuing the revised order to protesters. “They gave us the notification: ‘We have started clearing the square’,” Rees said.

“It’s all peaceful. People for the most part are being given the opportunity to move their possessions. But obviously there are a lot of people who have had stuff here who are not actually on site, hence the marquees are full of people’s gear and other people are trying to get it to safety. The police are for the most part watching over that operation.”

On Twitter, the London branch of XR wrote: “Police are clearing peaceful protest in Trafalgar & Vauxhall. They are back-tracking on promises made &, MEPs say, in contravention of UK law, in the national square. This is an emergency, and an outrage. The police must respect the law. This is a democracy.”

Kevin Blowe, the coordinator of the Network for Police Monitoring (Netpol), said the order effectively amounted to a ban on XR without going through the due process that would usually be required. “A ban has to be made by the home secretary,” he said.

“Our reading of it is that the section 14 powers are supposed to be used with caution because people still have a right to protest and potentially this is unlawful, and there is no other way to put it. Take a look at what section 14 says: it’s about restricting a number of people for a particular duration of time. My feeling is that this has to be open to some form of potential legal challenge.”

Scotland Yard said activists were told to cease their protests by 9pm on Monday or face arrest.

Deputy assistant commissioner Laurence Taylor said: “These conditions have been imposed due to the continued breaches of the section 14 condition previously implemented and ongoing serious disruption to the community.

“We have made significant progress in managing Extinction Rebellion’s activity at sites across central London over this past week. Officers have begun the process of clearing Trafalgar Square and getting things back to normal.”

A few XR activists locked themselves in place to slow the police operation, Rees said. Specialist police teams were working to cut them free and arrest them.

It was unlikely that protesters at Trafalgar Square and their equipment would be taken to the alternative camp in Vauxhall, because that site was considered to be full and its security was uncertain as it remained subject to the section 14, Rees said.

He added: “The concern would now be that essentially the police have gone back on their word about us being allowed to stay here, so will Vauxhall Pleasure Gardens be next?”

crispix posted:

Imagine what it must be like though to only realise so late in life that the police are not, in fact, the goodies :/

limited posted:

I can't remember where I read it, but it's always stuck with me - The police aren't there for justice, they are just there to try and sort poo poo out, and get things back to what passes for normal.

quote:

Alister Jack, the Scottish secretary, told Good Morning Scotland earlier that the EU27 might refuse to grant a Brexit extension out of sympathy for Boris Johnson. Referring to the Benn Act, which says the PM has to ask for an extension if no Brexit deal has been agreed by 19 October, Jack said:

"[Johnson] can make it very clear that he doesn’t want to ask for that extension, that he’s being forced to ask for that extension and some European leaders may sympathise with him on that and feel that it’s unfair that he should have to do something he doesn’t want to do.
If one of our European partners decides - and it could well be the French president - to use his veto and decides enough is enough, in that situation we would be leaving."

Asked if Johnson should resign if he has to delay Brexit, having promised repeatedly that the UK would leave the EU on 31 October, Jack replied:

"He absolutely should not resign. The prime minister fully intends for us to leave by October 31, he will stand by that."

BBC posted:

Conservative Party election leaflets suggest Brexit delay

Conservative Party leaflets obtained by the BBC suggest the party is preparing for a delay to Brexit.

The leaked leaflets, made available to agents and activists last week, also reveal some of the arguments the party may use against their opponents in a general election.

One says voting for The Brexit Party would mean "more delay" because Nigel Farage's party "can't deliver Brexit".

Boris Johnson has insisted the UK will leave the EU at the end of October.

The Conservative Party has been quiet on this front recently, posting no new Facebook adverts for several weeks after a flurry in August and September.

But new leaflets were made available to agents and activists last week, which suggest the party is preparing for Brexit to be delayed beyond October.

They also shed light on how the Tories might attack their opponents in a campaign - and seek to win over voters depending on their EU stance.

For example, one leaflet is aimed at people who voted Leave and are now deciding between the Conservatives and The Brexit Party.


Perhaps unsurprisingly, the Tories will argue that voting for The Brexit Party could mean further uncertainty by helping Remain candidates win.

But more intriguingly, the language in the leaflets clearly suggests the party is expecting the UK not to have left the EU by the time of a general election, saying: "Without a strong majority government, we can't deliver Brexit," and "Nigel Farage can't deliver Brexit but he could yet block it."

Adverts with these messages have not yet appeared in Facebook's political ad archive, which these days is usually the first place we spot a campaign slogan.

What about other parties?

Another leaflet is aimed at people who voted Leave in 2016 who are now tempted to vote for the Liberal Democrats.

This leaflet says "without a strong majority government Brexit won't get delivered", again suggesting the party intends on sending this leaflet out after the UK's departure has been delayed.


Another one is aimed at people who voted Remain and are now deciding between the Conservatives and the Lib Dems.

Boris Johnson's party holds lots of Remain-leaning seats which the Lib Dems are now eyeing up, like Richmond Park, Cheltenham and St Albans.

This leaflet says voting Lib Dem would mean "more delay" and "more of the endless arguments about Brexit", again suggesting the UK won't have left the EU when the leaflet lands on the doormat.


People who voted Leave and are now deciding between the Conservatives and Labour will be targeted with the following leaflet.

It says "Labour's Brexit policy is more delay", once more suggesting that the UK will not have left the EU at the time of a general election.


The BBC approached the Conservative Party for comment.

Luxury Tent Carpet posted:

:UKMT:

quote:

Michel Barnier has set Boris Johnson a midnight deadline to concede to EU demands and agree to a customs border in the Irish Sea or be left with nothing to take to the Commons.

According to sources, the EU’s chief negotiator told ministers that, as it stood, there was no prospect of a deal being signed off by leaders at a summit on Thursday, before a special sitting of the UK parliament on Saturday.

Legal text had yet to be tabled by the British negotiators, Barnier told ministers in Luxembourg. He advised the EU capitals he would announce on Wednesday whether negotiations on an agreement would have to continue into next week.

Barnier warned that the starting point for a deal had to be the Northern Ireland-only backstop, keeping it in the EU’s single market for goods and erecting a customs border in the Irish Sea, a proposal previously rejected by Theresa May.

After the meeting, Belgium’s deputy prime minister, Didier Reynders, told reporters: “If we have an agreement tonight it will be possible to go to the [European] council and then again to the British parliament. But it’s not easy, we have some red lines, they are well known by all the partners. I’m hoping it will be possible today to make some progress.”

Tesseraction posted:

Oh hey, loving finally https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1184055702236602375

Tesseraction posted:

Oops I tripped and fell on a human rights violation.