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Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


painted into a coroner posted:

Can't wait for Brexit 2!

Apocalypse Boogaloo.

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Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


To be honest, if it were possible for Corbyn to step down and be replaced by someone like Laura Pidcock or Rebecca Long-Bailey quickly and without drama, I would say we should definitely do that. But it would absolutely not be without drama, there’s a not terribly low chance it would end with Blairites seizing control, and it would take forever, with an election due in a couple of months.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


OwlFancier posted:

It also ignores that a lot of the labour party like him, they voted for him, and the chance to have him be PM is a significant motivator for people to put in the groundwork. You aren't just selling a labour leader to the public, the labour leader is the locus of a lot of the party's energy, they motivate people to be active party members.

Yeah, having just attended my first CLP meeting and having been asked “do you support Corbyn?” about forty times, I get it. But if Corbyn stepped down voluntarily and enthusiastically supported his successor, I think it would be fine in that regard.

Of course, it’s just political fan fiction, it’s not going to happen. But I will say that if Labour don’t form a government after the next election, then Corbyn really has got to go.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Jables88 posted:

An overlooked aspect of the choice of interim PM is that whoever this ended up being would be murdered within hours of delaying Brexit by a gammon hitman, so perhaps Harriet Harman/Ken Clarke/David Attenborough might prefer not to.

I enjoy watching Succession too (so should everyone, it’s great, basically about the Murdochs, and written by Jesse Armstrong of The Thick of It and Peep Show fame).

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Tarnop posted:

Someone please explain to me like I'm very dumb. Lib Dems land on the left? Is the shape of the tree important? What is happening

The tree is the Tory logo.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I just had a horrible experience. I was watching tonight’s Novara Media show and they were talking about this thing an awful Tory said excusing Johnson’s groping action:

https://twitter.com/femi_sorry/status/1178688827109584908

They introduced this subject by saying “oh, this horrible Tory called Alex Deane said this...” and my ears picked up. Because I never said that thing. I was confused because Alex Deane is my name. Thankfully I spell it very differently but it’s pronounced exactly the same.

I have the same name as a prominent Tory. I feel incredibly violated.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


lol it’s just the backstop with a different name.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Grr - just listening to Radio 4 Extra (as it doesn't have news and I felt like radio today). They're just doing some silly quiz show "The 3rd Degree" and Steve Punt has just asked a question regarding Press TV and made sure to mention Corbyn's been on it 'when he can find the time between appearances on Russia Today'. hahaha say the audience.
I'm effin annoyed because this kind of thing is slips through into the public brain on comedy programmes when peoples' discerning listening modes are off.

I mean, Corbyn did appear on Press TV and RT and that was bad and he shouldn't have. I can't really complain about a comedian making jokes about the times a politician legitimately hosed up.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


forkboy84 posted:

What other outlets were giving Jeremy Corbyn airtime incidentally? Oh, that's right, before 2015 exactly gently caress all of them. You go where you can to get a platform to put your views out.

That's not an excuse. If he'd gladly appeared in The Sun we'd rightly be excoriating him over it. There's no acceptable reason to appear on a propaganda network for a fascist dictatorship except maybe to challenge that regime, which Corbyn wasn't. There were probably quite a few left-wingers who saw Corbyn on there and thought that maybe RT wasn't that bad after all.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Eschenique posted:

How did Boris ever win Mayor of London anyway?

After years of the press smearing Ken Livingston (they should have waited a few years, he’d have done it himself), as a Tory Boris was the obvious alternative just at the point that the Conservative’s popularity was surging before the 2010 election. Also, he had a lot of name recognition and was considered likeable because of the HIGNFY stuff. The London mayoralty is also considered to be a pretty low-stakes position.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Sim City’s a pretty right-wing game so I can see why it would appeal to a centrist like Khan.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


OwlFancier posted:

Crystal Feminism, New Feminism, Diet Feminism, Feminism Zero.

I’m the short-lived Feminism Life.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012



Jesus, Stephen Hawking only died in March last year? It feels like forever ago.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Today’s Mash Report was really good, no Geoff Norcott either!

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Vlex posted:



Ealing off licence game is strong

Where in Ealing is that?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I can totally imagine May’s resigned face through those ten minutes:

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1180268847997292544

Comrade Fakename fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Oct 5, 2019

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012



Good to see Rob Delaney in the comments there, he’s a good lad. And I found this on his feed:

https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/1180800057853038593

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Chuka Umana posted:

Also you never actually see Benedict Cumberbatch's body as Dr. Strange in the Avengers movies, it's just a stunt double with his face superimposed on it. I wish I was joking.

You can’t tell, so who cares?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


What’s your opinion on the pedestrianisation of Norwich city centre? Personally, I’m dead against it. People forget that traders need access to DIXONS.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


This whole complaining about Beau Brummell thing really annoys me. Fair enough it’s good for people to feel they can dress how they want, but I’m not morally defunct for not wanting to dress like a loving jester. It’s not toxic masculinity to prefer more restrained clothing.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1181836695001387008

Jameela Jamil is 33. And British, if you’re not aware (she used to be on T4).

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


sebzilla posted:

Now famous for being in Good Place and an amazing human.

Yeah, that’s what I thought until I saw that tweet. Also, how is this possible?!:

https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1181261668954722304

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Johnson still trying to get a deal after an election is hilarious. What does he think will have changed? I suppose if they do well it makes it more likely he can get something past parliament, but currently the issue is that he can’t get anything past the EU. He probably imagines they’ll be so impressed by such a cool guy winning an election they’ll just drop all their red lines.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1182031506237280257

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


It’s US news, but here’s a fun thread on the incredible benefits of a privatised electricity grid:

https://twitter.com/bedwardstiek/status/1182047040932470784?s=21

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


baka kaba posted:

Is there any chance that XR is doing the Ghandi-style "walk smilingly into their machinegunsprison cells" thing to try and normalise protest over climate crisis, and also make people see how even that friendliest, most cooperative activism gets cracked down, to show there's a need for far more radical action?

not that it makes it good or effective, but is there a goal behind trying to bring everyone in and then get them arrested as quickly as possible?

Yes, it’s a conscious tactic, not just a vague, general love for the police from the middle-classes. Here’s a video from Ash Sarkar about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwFvcc-jsZQ

I’m pretty sceptical on whether it will work or on how long it will last, but it is definitely a planned approach.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Don’t actually throw your life away by accosting the Queen in order to look cool on an internet forum.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


They should do the OA dance, that’ll sort it.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Corbyn may have been an MP for a long time, but he was out in the political wilderness for most of that. When he became leader he basically had no “roots” in the end of the party that actually had any power.

The idea that Corbyn should stick around if Labour loses is fanciful. Labour lost 2017 but wildly out-performed expectations so he solidified his position. This time, regardless of what the polls say, the election is Labour’s to lose. The Tories are in complete collapse. If a Labour leader can’t win in these circumstances then they shouldn’t be leader. Having the best policies ever doesn’t matter if you can’t ever put them into practice. There’s not an ideal pool of replacements, but it should now be pretty possible to replace Corbyn without disrupting the left-wing direction of the party.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


baka kaba posted:

"haha the tories are sure to lose this time!" - every election

I don’t know how you interpreted that from what I wrote. To be clear, yes it is incredibly far from certain that Labour will win the election. My point is that considering the state the Tories are in, Labour should be about to cruise to an easy landslide. The fact that this is not true is concerning.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Literally every thing the Tories announce from now until the election should be reported by the press as “Government announces thing that will not happen.”

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Has there been polling on whether ending free movement is actually popular?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


There have been times when I thought that the crisp or Tweetman chat was getting a bit out of hand, but I don’t think the problem has ever reached the level of even being worth complaining about, let alone having a massive hissyfit about it. Just skip (like a prawn cocktail Skip amirite?!) posts you’re not interested in.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


What are the chances of the expelled Tory MPs voting for this deal?

e: According to wikipedia, the first recorded example of the antisemitic blood libel in England was in 1144, proving that Jeremy Corbyn is a time traveller.

Comrade Fakename fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Oct 15, 2019

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Wasn’t the deadline for the Brexit deal midnight last night? What happened with that?

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Bobby Deluxe posted:

The thing that I find most annoying about this is the refusal to acknowledge that Labour has three times as many members as the Tory party, and if it wasn't for gerrymandering would have had a storming majority.

Is there any actual proof of the latter? I was under the impression that the Tories won the most overall votes (at least a plurality) at the last election.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


jabby posted:

https://mobile.twitter.com/HackneyAbbott/status/1184492035883126788
For gently caress's sake. Is even being shadow home secretary a cursed position now?

Eh, it’s not like she’s saying Labour would do it either. Seems reasonable to slam the Tories for failing to deliver a campaign promise, even if it was a very stupid one.

(And also vaguely infer that Tories are fine with exposing children to porn.)

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


jabby posted:

She's saying that if they had gone ahead then 'very young children' would no longer have access to 'hardcore porn'. She's painting the scrapped law as a good thing.

She's also saying that not wanting to heavily regulate the internet means you aren't interested in 'law and order'. Being able to watch porn online isn't a matter of loving law and order, that's some authoritarian bullshit.

She also has form on this, she's said before nobody should have the right to be anonymous online which is even more draconian than any measures proposed by the Tories. I'm genuinely beginning to think she might not be a very good home secretary.

If it were possible to make it impossible for children to see hardcore porn on the internet with absolutely no side effects that would be a good thing. The Tories promised that, and they failed. Partly because they are incompetent, and partly because it was impossible anyway. It’s okay to slam them for failing to deliver the technically good thing that they promised and didn’t not deliver. She’s not suggesting at all that Labour would try to deliver it either.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Coohoolin posted:

wait i thought everyone knew the snp were tartan nazis trying to sabotage a corbyn government because of accelerationism or whatever

It’s going to be really funny to see how you justify it when the SNP vote against abolishing private schools or whatever.

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Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Lol this deal is so loving dead.

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