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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Okay somehow I'm subscribed to this thread despite not clicking the button or posting (until now) and frankly I'm terrified.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Kin posted:

Just called the hospital and the surgery went well. No complications.

I just feel tired now, nothing else.

Cameron Years on BBC1 is numbing my brain i think.

I know it's probably impossible advice to take, but try and get as much rest as you can tonight. Processing what's happened is going to take a lot out of you, and of course you have to be able to take the strain for your missus too.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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mediadave posted:

Sunny is right

Let me just stop you there.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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bump_fn posted:

some good lightning and thunder over london right now. please o god smite us for our hubris

https://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=en is always a fun watch if you're in too built-up an area to actually look out for the strikes directly.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

https://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=en is always a fun watch if you're in too built-up an area to actually look out for the strikes directly.



God hates the East End, apparently. That was pretty loving loud.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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:eyepop:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Whoever was complaining about the Tube problems this afternoon - apparently a big chunk of Wembley (including the lines running through it of course) was underwater for a chunk of this afternoon after it got six inches of rain in two hours.

Also Harrow School's golf course (because of course they have a loving golf course) is flooded, I assume the Army are being deployed as we speak to help with relief efforts.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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https://twitter.com/sibblank/status/1179111294093451265

Genuinely think The Eric Andre Show might be one of the greatest cultural achievements of the 21st century.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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https://twitter.com/OxfordDiplomat/status/1179097284358877184

Personally I'm sick of how all our borders are at best regional champions and am excited to finally be able to compete in the big border leagues.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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bessantj posted:

That is a genuine, heartwarming story.

Is canvassing probably the most effective way to gain votes?

Probably, yes. People are always more receptive to a friendly face than to a distant media, and just giving people a chance to let off steam about what annoys them can be amazingly effective. Labour always tie it up with GOTV drives too, because for every person you can flip from voting for another party there are probably 10 people who just don't vote at all.

Put it this way, I'm pretty much a stereotypical goon and even with that handicap I can normally get three of four people out of a hundred to at least *think* about voting Labour that hadn't previously (and hand out twice as many voter registration forms). When you can mobilise a membership as large as Labour have you have at least a chance of contacting every single voter in a constituency, those numbers add up really loving quickly.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Tesseraction posted:

Graun just posted the backstop alternative letter Johnson sent to the EU, the key page:



So it's literally the May Deal but with some handwaviness about "democracy", presumably meaning that they'll do some kind of referendum in NI?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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https://twitter.com/iresimpsonsfans/status/1179452739484618752

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Trades posted:

Very, very long term lurker here... just wanted to say thank you to those in the thread encouraging people to get out and campaign.

Just done my first bit of door knocking, it was far less terrifying than I thought and I’ll definitely be doing it again!

Here's the most important question - how do you knock at the door? I've had to advise several excitable young middle-class types that a sharp rapping doesn't work well in working-class areas, who'll assume you're some sort of officialdom. I use the "Shave-and-a-haircut" myself, crucially leaving off the "two bits" payoff, knowing it's almost physically impossible not to respond to it.

Now doorbells are tricky, because you don't know if they're the chime type - where a long press might leave too long a gap between notes for someone to register it - or the buzzer type, where a short press again might not be enough to register, but multiple presses are just obnoxious and just gets you an annoyed person at the door.

(Seriously this is the kind of poo poo I think about when I'm canvassing, and I'm seriously beginning to wonder if anyone has ever done proper research on it and if not whether I have the time to do it myself)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Vitamin P posted:

I'm extremely goony too, 100% prefer just putting lealets through doors, but at the end of 2 hours actual knocking even without having any charm or nouse it does still feel like I've helped sway the dial. The only strategy I ever do is be super polite, if they want to talk then listen to them talk about what is loving them off and then respond with a loose tying of how government actually trying to help them for a change would help with their X problem, which is almost always true and you just have three policies you've memorised that back it up, and that we cannot afford another financial crash like 2008. Basic stuff like 'the kids are alright they just need a fair chance' hits so much harder than you'd think when it's just a person talking directly to another person.

Then you all go to the pub after and it's fun. Anyone on the fence or that thinks they are too goony to help should just go for it, if you want the people in your community to still have an NHS in a decade then be brave and help them fight for it.

Also sometimes you get to talk to friendly dogs!

(and never underestimate just how much of a votewinner being good with dogs can be - if Labour get the Two Cities by one vote it'll be because I knew where the special scratchy place was on an old lady's Staff. Yes I know that sounds filthy, but this is what I'm prepared to go through for socialism)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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And like all Tories he has absolutely no idea that the object of his affections just isn't into it and is being polite.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Angepain posted:

Are you canvassing in Toon Town

gently caress off, I'm not going anywhere near Newcastle.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Pilchenstein posted:

Bloody southerner :v:

Listen mate Enfield is north enough for me, I really don't want to go canvassing in IDS' constituency because I assume they all wear flat caps and have whippets in Chingford.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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https://twitter.com/paulsinha/status/1179304493126733824

:holymoley:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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I have a sudden feeling of dread about this rebranding of May's deal - I think all of the hype about no-deal might just be enough to make enough melts in Parliament flip to get it through, and the EU haven't immediately said "gently caress off".

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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OwlFancier posted:

Would that necessarily be the worst outcome? It's a poo poo arrangement that everyone hates but as far as I can remember it doesn't immediately kill everyone and it takes the issue off the table while loving the tories?

Like I say I don't think it does gently caress them - Johnson gets to pretend like he's "Got Brexit done" and all his mates in the press back him up. The vast majority of voters will go along with that story, IMO.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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BizarroAzrael posted:

https://twitter.com/OnePlus_UK/status/1179735559725555712?s=19

Just how easy is it to get a second hand fire engine?

Piece of piss, they cost about £10k at auction (although the price fluctuates massively because most of them go abroad, so depending on where the Adis Ababa Fire Brigade are in their upgrade cycle you could end up in a hell of a bidding war).

The expense is in the running costs - like all fleet vehicles they sell them on when they become too expensive to maintain for specialised mechanics with fully-equipped garages, and it can be Italian-motorbike levels of impossible to get spares for any of the bits not repurposed from existing vehicles. You'll also need off-street parking (and of course they don't fit in standard garages), fuel consumption is monstrous, insurance almost impossible to get, and you need an HGV license to drive one, so you're probably better off sticking with a second-hand Corsa for the school run.

(Worst of all, depending on just how big of an arsehole the MOT inspector is, you may need to physically remove the lights and sirens to get it road-legal)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Dead Goon posted:

Doesn't the Queen own all the swans and if you kill one she gets to kill you?

Only on the non-tidal Thames.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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ThomasPaine posted:

To this day I am pissed I'm not allowed to eat swan, they look tasty as gently caress

You absolutely are allowed to eat them (although most ways of hunting them are illegal), they taste like fishy turkey apparently.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Dead Goon posted:

Sounds horrible.

Well yes, which is why we don't eat them.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Eschenique posted:

How did Boris ever win Mayor of London anyway?

An extremely well-targeted campaign in the outer boroughs combined with the beginning of Ken's fall into Hitler-based dementia. Turnout in Labour areas went down, turnout in Tory areas went up - there was very little actual swing.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Private Speech posted:

Bit late, but:


More-or-less the American rght to work except only for two years.

e: And it's since 2012.

A small point but right-to-work is a raft of anti-union measures (including no closed shops, non-members get the benefits of collective bargaining agreements, etc). For some reason (possibly the wonderfully Orwellian name) this often gets confused with "at-will employment", which is the "you can be fired at any time for any reason or no reason" thing.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Private Speech posted:

Oh I didn't know that! You often hear "right-to-work state" and such even in American discussions about at-will employment, so it never occurred to me that the two are different.

TBF they often go hand-in-hand, because any state with legislators dickish enough to do one is likely to do the other.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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willie_dee posted:

You are assuming the charges are fair and the landlords aren't millionaires wanting more profit for themselves which is a far more likely prospect than them giving a poo poo about their minimum wage security guards.

Specifically big commercial leases will tend to have rent increases heavily capped, so commercial landlords will jack the service charges up instead because they think they deserve the same profit margins as residential landlords. This, and not the internet, is what's killing high streets.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Guavanaut posted:

The Anti-Authoritarian Right:
Does it follow that I reject all authority? Far from me such a thought. In the matter of health, I refer to the authority of the TV celebrity; concerning women, gays, and minorities, I consult that of the gamer or engineer.

The anti-authoritarian right: Why does my girlfriend have to sit in a child seat?

(Apologies to whoever I stole that line from)

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Rarity posted:

I'm not even sure what point it's trying to make

Trust me when I say you're much better off if you see the words (everything about it) and don't have a particular post instantly produced by your terminally internet-poisoned brain.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Ms Adequate posted:

Yeah but as was observed on the podcast, nobody wants the diet version. If you want mass increases in public spending you vote Labour, same as if you want to gently caress over foreigners you vote tory, no matter what the edstone says.

The Simpsons nailed this ages ago:



fake edit: Holy poo poo, this episode is twenty five years old

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Rust Martialis posted:

So exactly what level of wrist-slap can BSJ expect if he was engaging in Ugandan discussions with her?

Exactly loving zero, because the entire system is completely incapable of dealing with people who don't feel any shame whatsoever.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Failed Imagineer posted:

Heinz already have the snack pots, they should fit

Possibly, but they won't dissolve once they're up there unless you're a xenomorph or had a particularly good night along Brick Lane.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Renaissance Robot posted:

Why is the UK's big "summer" music festival always scheduled for a time it is 100% guaranteed to be pissing it down, as opposed to, for example, May, when we reliably get some decent hot weather?

Same reason we've invented at least two sports that can't be played when it's raining, because British people are irredeemably loving stupid.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Is everyone forgetting this guy, the vicious nobleman who's the actual inspiration for most of the Western vampire canon up to and including two of the more common names?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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I know this is unfortunately topical for this thread lately, Big Nev has given his Twitter account over to https://twitter.com/Cradle_EPL, a charity to help support people effected by early pregnancy loss.

https://twitter.com/NevilleSouthall/status/1180943075801219072

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Pochoclo posted:

What drives a Tory MP to switch over to the Lib Dems? I mean if they were just able to keep grifting as they are, then I assume they'd stick with the Tories because it'd be easier to keep getting re-elected, so it must be either a) they think the Tories won't get elected again at their constituency, or perhaps b) their campaign donors are mostly pro-Remain, and it's getting hard to keep a pro-Remain view while in the Tories?

Dorrell's not even an MP, he "stood aside" in 2015 to spend more time with his accountants family.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Each of which are packed out every lunch and dinner time (despite the fact their pizza is low-effort poo poo but whatever) with people paying massively inflated prices. So once again - which hedge fund owns them?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Vitamin P posted:

I disagree that Jess Phillips has done good work around that particular issue, she's been textbook adequate.

But yeah the left has absolutely failed in it's response to Rotherham and the widespread, still spreading issue. The actual left response should be obvious, there is a hateful sub-culture using religion to justify racially targeting vulnerable young women and girls, but it's all been hosed up by woke neoliberalism and the liberal left just refuse to engage with it.

There is a core of, my guess, 4% of British voters that quite rightly were politically awoken by the disgusting poo poo that happened in Rotherham and all we have as a response is these idiots that that don't consider 'hey weird coincidence the EDL arose there of all places eh?'. All we have is shitheads calling them facists and wanking off over milkshakes but ignoring working class girls being plied with heroin and gang raped. It's disgusting and makes me hate these cunts that call themselves the left.

Literally the only people bringing religion into the Rotherham cases is Tommy Robinson, get the gently caress out of this thread you neo-nazi oval office.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

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Rarity posted:

This isn't the first time I've seen someone call Vitamin P a Nazi. Have we got anything concrete to base that on?

Other than the use of far-right talking points? Like I say, literally the only people bringing religion and race into the Rotherham case are Tommy Robinson and his band of merry fuckwits.

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