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oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003
better ban all vapes though. Must think of the kids!!!!

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oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

luxury handset posted:

turns out epidemiology, and scientifically confirming the biological/chemical causes of diseases, is difficult,

While this is very true, the idiotic part about it is is that lots of people have been using PG/VG/flavoring/nic juices for a decade with literally no known case of this. They should have clarified, as this will (epidemiologically speaking) probably kill thousands of people who now think all vaping is bad and more dangerous than smoking

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

WrenP-Complete posted:

Over 2000 people sick, 39 deaths. They have only looked at 29 people's lung samples so far. I can understand the CDC wanting to be cautious with so little information in.

It does seem interesting that the vitamin A acetate seems to be the main culprit.

Can you please tell me a little more (or point me to a good source) about the chemistry/science of the oil for nicotine delivery vs THC delivery? Is a mixed THC+nicotine vape possible? If you picked up someone's THC vape by accident, would it be immediately apparent to you?


This is a compelling line of reasoning. Thank you. It makes me wonder how the delivery systems for nicotine vapes have changed over the last ten years.

quite literally, the only difference in devices is that now more efficiently vaporize at lower temperature. Chemically, the only change has been salt nics. Everything else (PG/VG/Flavoring) has remained the same

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003
The reason they're being confused is that suburban moms love sharing those articles on Facebook and they want someone to do something about their kids juuling in the bathroom

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

revwinnebago posted:

Smarter people correct me on this as it's hugely anecdotal, but from what I've seen of nicotine addiction rates and the absolutely insane rate at which these people churn through vape juice - and aren't really quitting cigarettes anyway - I'm not sure how much healthier it actually is.

Anyone I know who's using vape juice - THC, CBD, or otherwise - has the exact same coughing fits as a very heavy smoker.

They're almost certainly safer than smoking

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vaping-in-england-an-evidence-update-february-2019

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