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As far as Card's early stuff goes, I always liked Hart's Hope.
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Oh, god, I hated Hart's Hope. It's the one where the protagonist publicly (tw) rapes the underage heiress to the throne in front of an avid crowd, then decided she deserves it because she tried to act like she was enjoying it (self-preservation) In general, most Card features child abuse, both sexual and not (Ender is absolutely an abused child), and the text is so awful that the subtext is beside the point. He did a rewrite of Hamlet where the entire plot revolves around Hamlet being incestuously abused. Which explains why Homosexuality Is Bad. My OSC Issues, let me show you them.
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Biffmotron posted:I recall the first few of the Seventh Son books being pretty interesting, or at least having a great premise. Basically, Jesus is reborn in an alternative 18th century America where magic is real and Britain won the American Revolution. But the protagonist is just a kid, albeit one with immense potential, and the Adversary keeps trying to kill him. I loved the first book of this series as a kid, so I'm kind of glad I never went further. Also it gave me a misapprehension about biology that lasted a long time--in the book, the main character is born with a caul as a sign of his special destiny, but I just thought all babies were born that way.
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RDM posted:He wrote a truly terrible pentology about space Mormons that's battlefield earth level bad and one of my great regrets is that I've read the entire stupid thing The only space mormons I'll accept are the ones in Leviathan Wakes/The Expanse.
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Mar 27, 2024 04:58
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Biffmotron posted:Of course the series falls off fast and hard. I think we’re all used to series that just limp on and on, or authors who had one good book amid a mediocre careers, but Card has an particular talent for a strong start and exponentially decaying sequels.
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Weissey posted:So I’m hoping to get some suggestions on what to read after I finish The Murderbot series. Here are some of the books I’m considering. Harrow. It's fantastic, but be aware it doesn't make it easy for you. Incredible payoff though.
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Late to the party, but I just finished the rollercoaster that is Exordia. From the blurbs, I was expecting a Serious Story about violence and ethics, but it was actually about those things and sassy aliens and how cool fighter jets are. I used to study physics, so it was fun to see the theoretical concepts, like symmetry breaking and group theory, used in a creative way (and explained better than some professors I've had). Nice one, GB!
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Group theory was the point where my brain rejected any more maths learning when I was in school. I should bump Exordia up the list
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Weissey posted:So I’m hoping to get some suggestions on what to read after I finish The Murderbot series. Not a recommendation as I haven't read it yet, but a heads-up that prolific book churned-outer Adrian Tchaikovsky has a new story out soon, SERVICE MODEL touted as 'Murderbot meets Redshirts in a delightfully humorous tale of robotic murder' - I've read more hits than misses by him so I'm going to at least have a look at the free sample on kindle. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0CW19VHXS quote:To fix the world they must first break it, further.
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Yeah, I'm checking that out, thanks!
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Mar 27, 2024 06:37
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From December 23 to July 24, he's putting out four books in eight months. The others are House of Open Wounds, Alien Clay, and Saturation Point.
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Balzac would be proud
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Pere Goriot is definitely my favorite 19th century novel so I should think about reading Lost Illusions.
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FPyat posted:From December 23 to July 24, he's putting out four books in eight months. The others are House of Open Wounds, Alien Clay, and Saturation Point. the brandon sanderson of (mostly) sciencey fiction
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Lucid Nonsense posted:I'm about halfway through Exordia, and the story is good, but the non-linear narrative is annoying. I think it would be more interesting if it didn't get to an exciting plot point then jump into a few chapters of back story that have already been spoiled. I'm a bit further on and feeling exactly the same way. It's jumping in both time and viewpoint simultaneously and in ways that don't make sense within the framing story.
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redleader posted:the brandon sanderson of (mostly) sciencey fiction damning with faint praise he's a better writer than sanderson
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Speaking of Exordia, can anyone spoil me on how much sex is there in it?
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Not enough, imo
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Safety Biscuits posted:Not enough, imo ...there's gonna be ssrin fic on ao3 isn't there
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anilEhilated posted:Speaking of Exordia, can anyone spoil me on how much sex is there in it? There’s one fade to black, some non graphic reminiscing and a LOT of horny ideation/ogling. I hope I’m not forgetting anything…
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FPyat posted:From December 23 to July 24, he's putting out four books in eight months. The others are House of Open Wounds, Alien Clay, and Saturation Point. Forgot to add that Alien Clay comes out today.
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General Battuta posted:There’s one fade to black, some non graphic reminiscing and a LOT of horny ideation/ogling. I hope I’m not forgetting anything…
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Biffmotron posted:I recall the first few of the Seventh Son books being pretty interesting, or at least having a great premise. Basically, Jesus is reborn in an alternative 18th century America where magic is real and Britain won the American Revolution. But the protagonist is just a kid, albeit one with immense potential, and the Adversary keeps trying to kill him.
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sebmojo posted:Harrow. It's fantastic, but be aware it doesn't make it easy for you. Incredible payoff though. One of my all time favorite series is Gene Wolfe’s Solar Cycle series so I am use to waiting for payoff lol
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Someone who read both the Hamlet play and Em X Liu's 'The death I gave him' please tell medium what you think. Because my schooling focused on Romeo and Juliet and Midsummer, and this book feels like very well written fanfic except not fanfic at all. Modern interpretation? I mean that as a compliment. Well the sex scenes between Hamlet and Horatio were cool. I really did enjoy the prose, it was a lot better than Liu's 'if found return to hell's novella imo. ps Yospos voice: gently caress and cum in your computer.
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This thread turned me on to og novels by George “Rail Road” Martin. Tuf Voyaging was some good old short form sci-fi, but Fevre Dream might be one of my favorite books ever. I honestly went into the book not giving two shits about steamboats, which feature prominently both on the cover as well as in between them, but every time Abner started waxing poetic about them… I was hooked. It probably doesn’t help that I’m of a certain age and the older I get, the more I like trains (and apparently other forms of transport). I’m slightly disappointed that I spoiled the second chapter or so by reading a blurb on the cover like “A fresh new take on the vampire novel by Martin.” I’m kind of glad it didn’t spawn a GRRM steamboat cinematic universe with an HBO series and Sour Billy Tipton Funko Pops. Great little world with a great little story all wrapped up in one book with a bow on it.
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Thinking back, isn't Accelerando basically premised on transhuman civilizations inevitably being cannibalized and replaced by "M Y P U S S Y I N B I O?"
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FPyat posted:Thinking back, isn't Accelerando basically premised on transhuman civilizations inevitably being cannibalized and replaced by "M Y P U S S Y I N B I O?" Yes. It's one of my favorite works.
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I read the Three Body Problem trilogy and really liked it. I looked up recommendations for similar series, and saw that Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky was a pretty common recommendation, so I gave it a try.... Man, do I hate this book. Outside of the first chapter it really hasn't grabbed me at all. Without spoiling anything, the book changes viewpoints every other chapter and I can't stand one of them. Overall I just find the characterizations really dull and don't really care what happens to anyone. Anyone have any other recommendations if I liked 3BP?
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Weissey posted:One of my all time favorite series is Gene Wolfe’s Solar Cycle series so I am use to waiting for payoff lol I actually put the locked tomb comfortably on a level with botns, for all it's very different in tone
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Fevre Dream is my favorite GRRM.
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Just finished, in relatively rapid succession, wizard of earthsea (had read decades ago but forgot all of it), the dispossessed, and now left hand of darkness. Folks, I think Le Guin might have been a good writer, super hot take I know. Of the three, the dispossessed is my favorite, but that's not taking anything away from the others. Planning on more earthsea and lathe of heaven as my next forays.
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frogbs posted:I read the Three Body Problem trilogy and really liked it. I looked up recommendations for similar series, and saw that Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky was a pretty common recommendation, so I gave it a try.... Which is the one you can't stand?
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fischtick posted:This thread turned me on to og novels by George “Rail Road” Martin. Tuf Voyaging was some good old short form sci-fi, but Fevre Dream might be one of my favorite books ever. I honestly went into the book not giving two shits about steamboats, which feature prominently both on the cover as well as in between them, but every time Abner started waxing poetic about them… I was hooked. It probably doesn’t help that I’m of a certain age and the older I get, the more I like trains (and apparently other forms of transport). It's not as good, but you might also like John Brunner's The Great Steamboat Race, which takes inspiration from the same events -- except with no vampires. For those who don't know, in the late 70s Brunner was disappointed that SF wasn't paying enough despite the praise he got for books like Stand on Zanzibar, and decided to follow John Jakes's example and reinvent himself as a historical novelist. The Great Steamboat Race took Brunner five years to write, and when it finally saw print, it was a complete flop and put an end to Brunner's hopes of getting into a more profitable field. I don't think it's a bad book myself, but it's way overstuffed and could really have used a more ruthless editor to cut it down. Selachian fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Mar 28, 2024 |
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PriorMarcus posted:Which is the one you can't stand? Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky
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frogbs posted:Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky I think they meant which viewpoint
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Tarnop posted:I think they meant which viewpoint Ugh, sorry guys, wasn’t quite awake this morning. Couldn’t stand the spider chapters. If I have to read the words Understandings or Palps one more drat time…
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Oh it's simple. You just need to be infected by the great Uplift virus, Pagliacci
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frogbs posted:Ugh, sorry guys, wasn’t quite awake this morning. Oh fascinating, I thought those were the best parts of the book and could have happily jettisoned the other POVs. It sounds like you want harder sci-fi ala Greg Egan.
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frogbs posted:Ugh, sorry guys, wasn’t quite awake this morning. To each their own, but I remember 3BP having a compelling and odd mystery, but horribly, laughably flat characters and it replaced thoughtfulness with cynicism (more so in the later books). Children of Time is not perfect but it is the far side of the world from that.
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