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The Sweet Hereafter
Jan 11, 2010

uber_stoat posted:

I read them a while back but I could use a refresher so I'm going to listen to the audiobooks since it turns out they're included with an audible sub.

I recently reread them for both those reasons. IIRC the narrator of Cold Water wasn't as good as the narrators of the first four, just as a heads up.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

General Battuta posted:

Redemption Ark (godawful pun it took me twenty years to get) has some of my favorite action scenes in all of SFF, alongside one of the most inexplicably absent ones.

Space chase? Also what's the absent one

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
The Race in the Revelation Space trilogy was one of the best space action sequences I can remember reading. Just a great way of creating a huge amount of tension and concern, all while sticking with your hard sci-fi premise.

So I'd second the suggestion of Chasm City from a little ways back. It's my favorite work of his out of the ones I've read. It helps that it's a self contained story and the plots are interesting looks at both Generation Ship colonization stories, sci-fi noir, and the titular city.

Also, gently caress, count me among those who didn't get the pun in Redemption Arc.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

zoux posted:

Space chase? Also what's the absent one

(Redemption Ark spoilers) Clavain, Scorpio and friends stealing the Zodiacal Light in Yellowstone to go to Resurgam. They get the gang together to do it but the actual capture happens off screen.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

habeasdorkus posted:

The Race in the Revelation Space trilogy was one of the best space action sequences I can remember reading. Just a great way of creating a huge amount of tension and concern, all while sticking with your hard sci-fi premise.

So I'd second the suggestion of Chasm City from a little ways back. It's my favorite work of his out of the ones I've read. It helps that it's a self contained story and the plots are interesting looks at both Generation Ship colonization stories, sci-fi noir, and the titular city.

Also, gently caress, count me among those who didn't get the pun in Redemption Arc.

Chasm City is great.

Reynolds is really good at using the limits of physics to enhance his stories, a lot of authors view them as barriers to story telling. I think that Redemption Ark (I read them out of order) was the first true no-ftl, no-fake gravity, no-whatever interstellar sci fi book I read and the way that he brought all those people from hundreds of subjective years apart really impressed me. House of Suns of course being the apex of this kind of storytelling.

Of course, they still have cheats, the Conjoiner drive is a fake science thing that gets around the necessity of pages and pages of refueling logistics. Same with the Epstein drive in The Expanse, people rightly praise that series for its adherence to physics but the E-drive is a handwave and just as improbable as gravity plates.

zoux fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Apr 24, 2024

Uncle Lloyd
Sep 2, 2019
I loved Century Rain, it has this melancholy sort of atmosphere through the whole thing that I haven't found too frequently and Reynolds really did well. It and Eversion are my favorites from him.

Another Dirty Dish
Oct 8, 2009

:argh:
Recently finished two “aliens invade and humanity gets nuked”novels. First up was Out of the Dark by David Weber, and I gotta say, I did not see that twist coming (not just Dracula, but literally Vlad the loving Impaler saves the day). Weird choice for a book that spends so many words on describing the calibre and quantity of ammunition and artillery that our special ops & prepper enthusiast protagonists have on hand. Honestly might have worked better if Weber just told the story from the alien POV. Followed it up with Exordia, which was excellent, as expected.

Other things I finished this year:
- Mountain in the Sea by Ray Nayler is a near-future take on “what if cephalopods were smart”, with a dash of cyberpunk (AI-run fishing boats crewed by slaves, prescription-only holographic chatbots, drone operators in full immersion tanks). I think the plot could have used a bit more flour, but not bad for a debut novel.

- Orbital by Samantha Harvey isn’t quite sci-fi, but an exploration of how it would feel to be part of the crew on the International Space Station. 16 orbits per day; 16 sunrises, 16 sunsets, staring at earth, losing yourself in your work, counting down the days. Not for everyone but I enjoyed it.

- No Country for Old Men isn’t SF/F either, but Cormac McCarthy has such a unique voice that he makes rural Texas feel like it might as well be on another planet. Captures the feeling of waking up and feeling like the world has so thoroughly moved on that you might as well be an alien. Highly recommended if you like your palate cleansers to taste of weariness and regret. I bounced off The Road a few years ago, but this convinced me to give it another shot.

Sibling of TB
Aug 4, 2007
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Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

I was really stuck by how much better the characters were in Chasm City than anything else by Reynolds I ever read (mainly Revelation Space, Galactic North, and most recently Inhibitor Phase). Not what I expected given it's one of his first books?

House of Suns too actually.

Inhibitor Phase particularly unforgivably is actually all about tedious gently caress and most important man in the universe NEVILLE CLAVAIN which it hides for most of the runtime.

Also really interesting to see how well done the 'protagonist has a monstrous past' twist was done in CC, and how flat / missable it was in IP.

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Mar 31, 2009

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sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









mystes posted:

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Clear Victor

shirunei
Sep 7, 2018

I tried to run away. To take the easy way out. I'll live through the suffering. When I die, I want to feel like I did my best.
Just finished Europe in Autumn based on the thread's recommendation. Really enjoyed the first two-thirds, but the plot twist kind of left me feeling cold. I would have much rather been toasty just having the protagonist rolling around getting into courier hijinks while exploring brokeurope. I'm guessing the rest of the series leans in even heavier on the ending premise?

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

Yes, it gets weirder

The Sweet Hereafter
Jan 11, 2010
It does, but IMO it works. The twist is a game-changing semi-open secret that everyone wants to be able to control, so there's still plenty of coureur action and betrayal etc.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

habeasdorkus posted:

Also, gently caress, count me among those who didn't get the pun in Redemption Arc.

aw man. was about to ask what on earth the pun was until i saw that last letter

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe
Wait I still don't get the pun

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Benagain posted:

Wait I still don't get the pun

Redemption Arc

eighty-four merc
Dec 22, 2010


In 2020, we're going to make the end of Fight Club real.
e:f,b

Benagain posted:

Wait I still don't get the pun

The novel is titled Redemption Ark which is a pun on the term “redemption arc”

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe
god

drat

it

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
another day volunteering at the haunted gunnery. everyone keeps asking me if they can gently caress the cache weapons. buddy, they wont even let me gently caress em

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




General Battuta posted:

another day volunteering at the haunted gunnery. everyone keeps asking me if they can gently caress the cache weapons. buddy, they wont even let me gently caress em

This is an exact quote from the Exordia sequel, right?

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

shirunei posted:

Just finished Europe in Autumn based on the thread's recommendation. Really enjoyed the first two-thirds, but the plot twist kind of left me feeling cold. I would have much rather been toasty just having the protagonist rolling around getting into courier hijinks while exploring brokeurope. I'm guessing the rest of the series leans in even heavier on the ending premise?

I also finished this yesterday. As far as espionage goes I thought the pre-SF twist stuff was sometimes good when it was about pure spy craft, but also kinda dragged for me. possibly because my limited knowledge of German and Polish geography/politics meant the setting may as well have been a real life generic 60s european spy setting

then the twist happens, but the twist is more like the first pages of a completely different series. It definitely changes the stakes, so I started the second book to see how or if it ties it all back to the spy stuff in a satisfying way

FPyat
Jan 17, 2020
Were the cache weapons actually sentient or was I misreading the scene where one freaks outs Ilia?

eighty-four merc
Dec 22, 2010


In 2020, we're going to make the end of Fight Club real.

FPyat posted:

Were the cache weapons actually sentient or was I misreading the scene where one freaks outs Ilia?

I don’t think they were sentient.

(Revelation Space spoilers)

I think you’re referencing a scene in chapter 9 when Volyova’s on the way to speak with the captain and notices a cache-weapon out of place.

It’s later revealed to Khouri, after the same cache-weapon seemingly arms itself, that the Mademoiselle took control of it to kill Sylveste by destroying the planet Resurgam.

Volyova ends up destroying the cache-weapon by wrestling it into Nostalgia for Infinity’s engine wake with the spider-room.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007
I need to reread those books, I haven't read them since they came out and I was reading a lot of similar-ish sci-fi at the time and they've all kinda blurred together and fuzzed out.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

eighty-four merc posted:

The novel is titled Redemption Ark which is a pun on the term “redemption arc”

I've never read this book and assumed it was a pun title because the odds of someone using that title and playing it straight just seemed so unlikely. I blame Dragon Quest for this.

StumblyWumbly
Sep 12, 2007

Batmanticore!

eighty-four merc posted:

I don’t think they were sentient.

(Revelation Space spoilers)

I think you’re referencing a scene in chapter 9 when Volyova’s on the way to speak with the captain and notices a cache-weapon out of place.

It’s later revealed to Khouri, after the same cache-weapon seemingly arms itself, that the Mademoiselle took control of it to kill Sylveste by destroying the planet Resurgam.

Volyova ends up destroying the cache-weapon by wrestling it into Nostalgia for Infinity’s engine wake with the spider-room.


This sounds like some perfect sci-fi bullshit, I need to check this book out but I just started BotNS. One more To Be Read

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I know a lot of people get down on it for this reason or that, but those first four Revelation space books (AG less so...) are incredible in terms of scope and mood. I'd never imagined a 4 km long ship encased in cometary ice to protect it from relativistic grains of dust as it accelerates to within a fraction of the speed of light. He does post/transhumanity so well, it's all these fantastic ideas and structures and people that still fit more or less neatly in a hard sci-fi "this is possible given our current understanding of physics" niche. It's definitely one of my top 10 sci fi series. Some of the sequences are mind-bogglingly good.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

Another Dirty Dish posted:

- Mountain in the Sea by Ray Nayler is a near-future take on “what if cephalopods were smart”, with a dash of cyberpunk (AI-run fishing boats crewed by slaves, prescription-only holographic chatbots, drone operators in full immersion tanks). I think the plot could have used a bit more flour, but not bad for a debut novel.

I just DNFed The Mountain in the Sea, about a third of the way through it. It sounded really cool and came highly recommended from someone with similar taste in books as me. The prose just didn't engage me. I think Blindsight is still too fresh in my mind as well, as I felt like that handled things like the concepts of what cognition is and how consciousness evolves in more dynamic ways.

I liked the cyberpunk vibes, and the plotline on the fishing boat was sort of interesting, but neither was enough for me to keep going.

I have been in a bit of a reading rut though, bouncing around and off of various books. Might try it again another time.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Children of Ruin is the superior cephalopod cognition novel.

Also I'd like to see more about those sentient pistol shrimp that form a lose trading network with the Portiids in CoT.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Just finished Robert Jackson Bennets The Tainted Cup

Not bad, was more interested in the pretty cool world building than the plot, which is a servicable enough 'Fantasy world' x 'Nero Wolfe and Archie Goodwin*' story.

Would read a sequel.



* Lol. Of course the backcover blurb references Sherlock Holmes.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011
Jesus christ Children of Time is a loving great book.

Just waiting for the sequels on hold

Myrmidongs
Oct 26, 2010

Ravenfood posted:

Jesus christ Children of Time is a loving great book.

Just waiting for the sequels on hold

I liked the second book and DNF'd the third. Really hard living up to Children.

shirunei
Sep 7, 2018

I tried to run away. To take the easy way out. I'll live through the suffering. When I die, I want to feel like I did my best.

AARD VARKMAN posted:

I also finished this yesterday. As far as espionage goes I thought the pre-SF twist stuff was sometimes good when it was about pure spy craft, but also kinda dragged for me. possibly because my limited knowledge of German and Polish geography/politics meant the setting may as well have been a real life generic 60s european spy setting

then the twist happens, but the twist is more like the first pages of a completely different series. It definitely changes the stakes, so I started the second book to see how or if it ties it all back to the spy stuff in a satisfying way

I got through a bit of the second book and it definitely helps how disconnected it feels from the first while you still kind of understand the broad strokes of what's happening. Gives it room to breathe life into the "twist". Super recommend this to anyone who needs a good series(so far!)to burn.

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Mar 31, 2009

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Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Myrmidongs posted:

I liked the second book and DNF'd the third. Really hard living up to Children.

The 3rd one is a bit of a slog but it pays off in the end.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




pradmer posted:

Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City (Siege #1) by KJ Parker - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078W5M7DB/
Oryx and Crake (MaddAddam #1) by Margaret Atwood - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FC1BNI/

The first one is a bit of a gateway drug, but still highly recommended.

The second is just plain masterfully weird.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

one thing that alastair reynolds did better than most (hard) SF writers is convey the passage of time in non-FTL societies

e.g., belle epoque/post-melding plaque yellowstone ending with the inhibitors blowing up the system

Nuclear Tourist
Apr 7, 2005

Completely understand why people diss Inhibitor Phase but seeing post-apocalypse Chasm City was pretty cool.

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habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

mllaneza posted:

The second is just plain masterfully weird.

Seconding this, Oryx and Crake was real good dystopian fiction.

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