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Feb 24, 2007



Nemesis Of Moles posted:

If I really enjoyed the Quantum Thief/Jean Le Flambeur series, especially the later books where the whole fundamental structure of the universe is going apeshit, what else should I check out?

Pretty much anything by Greg Egan. Stephen Baxter’s Xeelee Sequence. That should keep you busy for a while.

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Feb 24, 2007



StrixNebulosa posted:

the protagonist is both the detective and murder victim.

Is there a horse vs. motorcycle chase?

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Feb 24, 2007



The Scar, as I se it now, is about a protofeminist from an oppressive society falling in love with an utterly toxic jerk. I don’t really appreciate it anymore. Iron Council is much better, at least it deals with themes of colonialism and workers’ solidarity in a somewhat meaningful way. PSS is just bleak and worthless, the author piling one horror on top of another until everything becomes meaningless.

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Feb 24, 2007



Ms. Chanandler Bong posted:

I'm into Alastair Reynolds hard kind of extreme sci-fi, like house of suns, pushing ice, revelation space etc. Apart from Peter Hamilton can someone recommend me a similar author and good starting point?

You will probably like Stephen Baxter and his Xeelee sequence. Raft is a stand alone and a good starting point to see if you like his style IMO

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Feb 24, 2007



Sci-if authors have this extra bone that starts growing and pushing into their brains in their fifties. There is no other explanation

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Feb 24, 2007



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Feb 24, 2007



Gibson’s been a white liberal boomer the entire time. It’s frustrating to see how issues of capital, class, imperialism and so on dangle in front of his nose the entire time he is writing about the near future, but he never manages to grasp them.

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Feb 24, 2007



StrixNebulosa posted:

What's sucky about that? afaik the Russians did tamper with our social media.

Not to go all C-SPAM in here, but the Dems ran a bad candidate with a poo poo campaign. Trump brilliantly harnessed the hatred white America has against minorities and poor people. Russian meddling did happen, but it did not influence the outcome.

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Feb 24, 2007



a foolish pianist posted:

There's a mid-90s Cronenberg film called Crash with similar themes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_(1996_film)


Why would you post that, it has nothing to do with books?

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Feb 24, 2007



The problem with Clarke, Asimov and Heinlein is - their stuff is poorly written. Well, all of Asimov, Heinlein, and most of Clarke, something we’ve discussed on TBB Discord earlier today. What is left are ideas - the first time someone thought to write about a geostationary satellite or an orbital elevator and so on. Since these ideas are commonplace today, I understand that kids are refuting these works. There is nothing of value to be gained from them, unless you have an interest in history of the genre.
The occasional racism and ever present sexism are a whole other can of worms.

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Feb 24, 2007



No. No more dancing! posted:

Nothing beats the joy of spending a month of classes listening to classmates sound out their way through "Julius Caesar" and "Romeo and Juliet" one. wo-wo-word. at. a. time. I didn't touch a novel for fun for 7 or 8 years after high school.

Maybe being 14 and yelled at for not understanding dactylic hexameter? I would rate that as pretty joyful myself

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Feb 24, 2007



Elric is very pulpy fun stuff. It’s not for everyone, but I enjoyed it. It’s Moorcock, so the writing is better than what’s expected from the fantasy genre.

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Feb 24, 2007



freebooter posted:

Apparently Alastair Reynolds has another Revelation Space book coming out - I thought that series was done and dusted? I read Revelation Space like ten years ago, thought it was fine, didn't read anything else of his for ages, but in the past few years have been on a relative binge of his stuff - House of Suns, Pushing Ice, Terminal World and most of his short stories are great or at least good. I just don't have good memories of Revelation Space and never really intended to finish that series. Should I?

Chasm City was really good cyberpunk noir, the main line three novels ranged from OK to very bad (the third one). Nothing was published after the final novel of the trilogy, at least nothing worth a mention. Of course, the shorts are his best work, I agree with you.
I should probably reread House of Suns to see if it holds up, at the time I thought it was one of the better works dealing with de facto immortality.

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Feb 24, 2007



Jerome K Jerome is so funny. I honestly laughed out loud at the German professor singing a sad song scene.

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Feb 24, 2007



I did that and half of my account, ie everything I had under my 90210 zip code, just disappeared

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Feb 24, 2007



Oenis posted:

I've basically been lurking in this thread and reading whatever sounds interesting for the past year, and there was so much cool stuff I would've otherwise never picked up. I immensely enjoyed Gideon and Harrow the Ninth (probably my favs in a long time, can't wait for the sequel), had a blast with the Murderbot series, really liked Piranesi, chuckled a lot at Three Men in a Boat and I've just finished Between Two Fires, which was also a pretty good ride. So, nothing I regret reading or did not finish, and I'd like to thank everyone continiously talking about good stuff.

Next, I'd like to get into a bigger series again, and from the amount of mentions the series gets (and I do believe it's because it's actually good, not just because of the good General Battuta's presence) I'm gravitating towards Baru Cormorant, but I'm also tiptoeing somewhat around it, because from the description it sounds kinda heavy and political in a way where I'm not sure it'd be my thing?
I've also put the Mistborn series, the Book of the New Sun series and and Malazan Book of the Fallen on my list to check out. So I guess I'd appreciate any pointers on those four series (or anything else not on my radar, even), which are deserving of the praise they get and which may be overhyped.

Maybe I should also mention that my standards are low, as in I already read the entirety of the "patiently waiting for the last book for 10 years" trifecta of A Song of Ice and Fire, Gentlemen Bastards and even the Kingkiller Chronicles (which I'm ashamed to admit I liked large parts of, except the nymph sex thing). So I may suffer from somewhat misguided taste. :shrug:

Malazan is tedious and after five or so books people usually decide it’s not going anywhere. Mistborn is a light read. Book of the New Sun is a hard read, at the same time oblique and chock full of archaic and weird words, but ultimately satisfying if you can push to the end.

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Feb 24, 2007



UBI is a beloved libertarian concept, it has nothing to do with socialism.

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Feb 24, 2007



Runcible Cat posted:

OK, possibly a stupid question, but how do they square that with the whole no-government personal-freedom the-world-doesn't-owe-you-a-living etc poo poo? Is it because they're mostly basement-dwellers living off mum and dad?

Yeah, I guess you’re right on track here. Also, the libertarian opinion leaders, extremely rich tycoons, want to introduce UBI and kill off all other social programs simultaneously.

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Feb 24, 2007



SimonChris posted:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TheSalvationWar

There is a popular web serial where the armies of hell invade the earth on Judgment Day and are easily defeated by modern military weapons. Not that I recommend actually reading it, but reading about it is pretty entertaining.

For the small intersection of the Venn diagram of people who know who Abaddon is and what a Trophy APS is, this series is catnip

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Feb 24, 2007



StrixNebulosa posted:

Because it's fun/cool adventuring with a power-up system you don't typically see in fantasy!

I really hate this snobbishness, let people enjoy cool books even if they aren't your jam!

The only Cool cultivation book would be one about guys refraining from cumming until they can shoot inches-thick ropes.

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Feb 24, 2007



Whether you care about representation in genre fiction, or not, go read Hench by Natalie Zina Walschots. It’s such a smart and well-written book. Not at all what I expected going in.

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Feb 24, 2007



Horizon Burning posted:

wasn't that the plot and hook of a tv series a few years back?

Top of my head: recent show I saw on Netflix I am too lazy to look up now, Soviet seventies era children’s movie, Pelevin’s Omon Ra. I’m sure there was more.

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Feb 24, 2007



We do have a discord, I’d invite you if I knew how

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Feb 24, 2007



Patrick Spens posted:

Hey I don't know if anyone here goes to TOR.com, but apparently they've been owned and are actively trying to download malware onto visiting browsers, so maybe don't go there right now.

It’s just their free ebook of the month program

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Feb 24, 2007



Please let this be modeled after Papa John and the solution is less black people because they absorb more sunlight

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Feb 24, 2007



HopperUK posted:

All right. I'm Catholic and I just had no idea what you were getting at. Still don't really but I think I'd need the full context, it'd depend how it's written if she is meant to actually be Christ come again or something.

Actually, it’s about her adult lover trying to make Christ come again

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Feb 24, 2007



Asher’s Owner trilogy owns. The angry white dude literally brexits the planet because the EU made him use pronouns IIRC

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Feb 24, 2007



StrixNebulosa posted:

I’m repulsed and excited to read this at the same time. It sounds completely up its own rear end in a top hat.

It’s as pleasant to experience as the Daily Mail opinion section

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Feb 24, 2007



Death of the Author just means that only what is in the text is relevant for the reading. It doesn’t mean you should send your money to Hitler just because his book doesn’t directly advocate for the extermination of Jews. So yeah, I agree, let’s not buy books by proven assholes. Unless they’re good and already dead like Mishima or d’Annunzio, of course.

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Feb 24, 2007



The Cultural Revolution flashback was easily the best part of TBP and it turned my opinion of the events around completely

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Feb 24, 2007



Carrier posted:

This is genuinely such an odd thing to be worked up about lol, seems like you were just looking for a fight for some reason.

Attempting to keep the thread on track. Has anyone read The Gone World by Tom Sweterlitsch? Seen a few people recommend it recently and it seems interesting.

It’s a super bleak and fast moving, twist in every chapter type of horror/thriller. I’d say it’s good for what it sets out to do.

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Feb 24, 2007



Hieronymous Alloy posted:

The ur-case of that genre is _Rogue Moon_ by Algis Budrys.

It is dated in some ways but its at the root of the Big Dumb Object genre.

Solaris is the other one that springs to mind.

If we’re talking Lem, there is also Eden

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Feb 24, 2007



Hieronymous Alloy posted:

They're all riffing off of wodehouse

Yes, but Jerome K Jerome precedes even Wodehouse? I’d say Three Men in a Boat influenced English humor like nothing else. The scene with the German professor, oh God, I’ve never read anything funnier.

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Feb 24, 2007



Slowdive posted:

Any recs for well written sci fi books full of mindbending, amazing, original ideas and concepts like Reynolds' House of Suns, Tchaikovsky's Children of Time and Hamilton's Salvation?

Anything by Lem, Gnomon by Nick Harkaway. David Zindell’s Neverness.

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Feb 24, 2007



anilEhilated posted:


I only really know 40K from games and there's a lot of it, any suggestions for good introductory (or just good) books?

Eisenhorn trilogy. It’s pretty decent, way above anything else 40k and on par with rather solid genre stuff. IIRC no sex scenes in the trilogy.

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Feb 24, 2007



ToxicFrog posted:

Spoilers for book 2 of The Engineer, in case anyone cares.

(why is it always gunpowder?)

Because you need it to discover leadership, explosives and metallurgy

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Feb 24, 2007



3D Megadoodoo posted:

Is Harry Turtledove any good?

Short answer, no. The writing is abhorrent, just barely competent. It feels like reading Wikipedia articles. If reading about Hitler fighting against aliens is something you would still like to do despite the poor writing, go ahead. There’s a Turtledove let’s read in TBB, check it out for prose samples.

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Feb 24, 2007



Hench is fun, and she seems to be working on a sequel

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Feb 24, 2007



sebmojo posted:

Bring back the merkin imho

Be the change etc

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Feb 24, 2007



DACK FAYDEN posted:

Now I'm wondering what the objectively least common trait that humanity has actually is, like, if we were to somehow make first contact with 100 randomly generated species what is the thing about humanity that'd be the least likely for an intelligent species to have?

Balls as a pee storage organ

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