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Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Munin posted:

Any good non-bleak and/or uplifting scifi or fantasy? given my excessive news consumption I need a palate cleanser.

Not fantasy, but still genre: give No 1 Ladies' Detective Agency a go.

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Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

Does anyone have suggestions of books similar to The Lies of Locke Lamora? I'm not sure what about it, maybe it's just the heist aspect because I also liked the Great Train Robbery.

Googling 'fantasy heist novel' shows a list of all the novels/authors that I've heard are similar but haven't personally read. So maybe try some of those.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
It was pretty meh. It solidified my decision to not read any more books by Richard K. Morgan.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Cardiac posted:

The only difference between a land fit for heroes and his other series is that fact that the main protagonist fucks men. The macho posture, graphic sex and violence is the same.

And I didn't really enjoy most of his other books either, except for Altered Carbon, which foolishly gave me enough hope to try a few others.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

pradmer posted:

Two kindle sales on amazon today that I've seen mentioned a bunch here in the past.

Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DN8BQMD/

The Rook by Daniel O'Malley
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QX07EG/

I recommend both.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
I mean it's literally her examining the body she ended up in as a physical object.

I don't mind it.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
That's quite a sales pitch. I'll check it out.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
I recall enjoying Children and God-Emperor and thinking the rest were utterly skippable. But it's been a while.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

nessin posted:

Anyone know of at least some passable campy high action space opera books/series that have come out in the past few years? I really crave a new Star of the Guardian/Deerstalker/Star Wars-ish kinda book.

There is a bunch of stuff that I see when I check the new releases each month, but I am afraid I haven't actually read any of them, so I can't make recommendations.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
The Dark Horse comics are also pretty good.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

MockingQuantum posted:

and still posts in TBB


In actual content, I'm reading Four Roads Cross, the fourth/fifth book in the Craft Sequence depending on how you want to count them. I definitely enjoy it more than the last couple (Last First Snow & Full Fathom Five) but I still don't find it quite as gripping as I did the very first book I read and I just can't figure out why. FFF was a total slog for me, and LFS was fine but kind of bland, so this one is a big improvement in large part because I enjoy the setting and characters more, but I'm not tearing through it like I did Three Parts Dead. Maybe it's because I mostly enjoyed the novelty of the world in the first book and not the actual story, I don't know.

Full Fathom Five basically has the inciting incident about 50% into a not-very-slender novel, which is quite a few pages without the reader understanding what the gently caress the actual story is about, and just kind of meanders showing author's precious worldbuilding before that. I like the guy and I liked the first two books, but I am not sure I'll ever get around to reading the rest of the series.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

team overhead smash posted:

Does't it have it right at the start? A god dies under mysterious circumstances and the heroine decides something is up and needs to investigate as they cotton on that more goes wrong while side-character linked in to the plot have their own goings on?

No. Whatsherface breaking into the bank is the inciting incident and, as far as I recall. Everything before that is pretty much all the characters ambling around while you're thinking "why the gently caress are we shown these people and when will the story start?" The fired magic financier mopes, gets drunk, gets interviewed about her firing. The hobo girl just kinda reactively lives her life and until it ties into the other story like 2/3 into the book, it just has zero relation to it or apparent point.

It's kinda poo poo, tbh.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
It has a lot of pretty cool artpunk D&D-ish scenery and I guess there might be some characters or plot as well, I dunno, I don't recall any.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/dmiknk/cozy_fantasy_books_featuring_a_group_of/f51mdkw/

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Alec Eiffel posted:

Are there any worthwhile Star Wars books outside the Thrawn Trilogy? I'm looking for some light reading right now.

Kieron Gillen's Darth Vader comic was quite good.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Patrick Spens posted:

Huh, somebody did something good with one of those neural net things.

She's done a lot of funny lists with GPT-2. I like the one with D&D character names.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Xtanstic posted:

I'm in the mood for something light and fun. I think during the holidays someone mentioned that the reason this thread adores Murderbot is that it's basically Competence-Porn ala The Martian. Well drat if that didn't make me in the mood for some Competence-Porn. Doesn't have to be too deep. I remember enjoying the first 5 books of Tanya Huff's Confederation Series. Any recs?

Also maybe a spaceship (or spacefleet) long flight survival type book rec? Something like "humanity is on a long voyage on an Ark type spaceship and must survive"? Something fun and cozy ala Becky Chambers instead of grimdark seriousness ala Battlestar Galactica preferably.

Try the Bobiverse books.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

avoraciopoctules posted:

I'd like to read a fantasy novel with a wizard protagonist. Flashy magic, hopefully something they had to work for rather than being born with. At least a little smug and self-absorbed, but not a total jerk. I would rather avoid stuff with torture or sexual violence.

Try Mother of Learning. It's one of the more popular web serials out there and the sales pitch is pretty much "Groundhog Day in Hogwarts". (Except it's not fanfiction, just saying it's set in a wizard school.) It's quite good.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

cptn_dr posted:

Is Greatcoats any good? I had someone passionately trying to convince me that once I read it I'd realise my previous love for Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell was all wrong and I'd see that I should be loving Greatcoats instead. He also tried to explain that Strange & Norrell is bad because it doesn't have a well defined magic system.

The first book was like early Sanderson writing flintlock fantasy. I dropped it, but I have a friend who loves it.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

pradmer posted:

First three books from the Magic 2.0 series by Scott Meyer - $0.99 each
Off to Be the Wizard - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EF8Z32I/
Spell or High Water - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HVF7OJM/
An Unwelcome Quest - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MRADM1K/

Looks like lighthearted humor fantasy. Usually I'd assume they're probably terrible, but other mentions on SA are surprisingly positive.

I read some of it and if you read its premise and think "hmm, this would make a fun rationalfic" you'll be very frustrated. The hero is given great power and is a dumbass with zero imagination with it.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

feedmegin posted:

Wasn't Empire specifically co written with a woman, Janny Wurts?

Yeah. It was pretty much 50/50 Feist and Wurts, at least according to the series' FAQ.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
I've lost some respect for McGuire after the whole Jonathan Ross brouhaha. Since that also involved her being weird in the context of cons, I'm willing to believe that guy's friend as well.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
Yeah, he writes good books.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
I don't like any booktubers, unfortunately.

What I'd like to watch is a tightly-scripted, funny review show that's not afraid of spoilers in the style of Zero Punctuation, SsethTzeentach, MandaloreGaming, Casually Explained, etc, that is actually interesting to watch even if you're not interested in the book. Instead, all of booktube is like "*holds up book* hey there so I read this book, I'm not going to offer a lot of specific details because spoilers, but I really like this, this is a good book *fifteen more minutes of someone offering impromptu generalities and trying to avoid saying anything actually engaging*"




On the other hand, here's my list of sources I check for "what new genre books have come out each month?":

https://transfer-orbit.ghost.io/

https://www.tor.com/tag/fiction-affliction/

io9 used to have its own tag for these lists - 'bookshelf injection' - but unfortunately doesn't anymore while still publishing the lists, so I just search for "io9 books [month] [year]"

http://www.robjhayes.co.uk/category/upcoming-releases/

https://www.pastemagazine.com/search?q=fantasy

https://amazingstories.com/author/ernlilley/

If you're one of those people who are like "oh I've read literally everything, how do I find more books?!?" - this should have you covered.

Megazver fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Apr 4, 2023

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

fritz posted:

Locus's 'Forthcoming books' is now partially behind a paywall, but it's still great for big-name releases:
https://locusmag.com/forthcomingbooks/

I prefer lists where there's a blurb for what the book is about and not just the title, so I don't need to search over and over only to go "oh it's romance YA again".

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Yea I was getting worried when that was going on. Thankfully it didn't turn into some hosed up harem Mary Sue sort of situation.

He started writing it as a horny story, but then it kinda went in the wholesome direction on its own and instantly got very popular, and he course corrected.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

tokenbrownguy posted:

put the harem back in coward

I am a horny nerd, so I am still Team Throuple Done In A Considerate Manner That Respects The Characters.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

VostokProgram posted:

Recommend me a book with exquisite prose. Something where reading it is pleasurable just because of the words. Gimme the good stuff

have you heard of sandon branderson-

EDIT: real suggestion https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/magazine/19Vance-t.html EDIT EDIT: I guess this is also part of the "do all writers get worse as they get older" conversation

Megazver fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Apr 13, 2023

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

StrixNebulosa posted:

Can you describe this at all? I'm very much in the mood to find more good historical stuff - I've been reading Susan Kay Penman - and would like to know more.

It's one of those series that has its own "wtf is this poo poo? how do I read this?" guides like Ulysses or The Book of the New Sun, because of how it's written. The first time I tried reading it I realized that at the moment I didn't feel like doing the research required to appreciate it. I might give it another go one day, when I've invested in the multiple Companions and Guides.

Here's a random extract for a small taste:

quote:

His hair soft as a nestling’s, his eyes graceless with malice, Lymond was watching him in a silver mirror. Before Erskine could call, Buccleuch and Mungo Tennant had piled in beside him and Lymond had taken two steps to the far door, there to linger, hand on latch and the blade of his sword held twinkling at breast level as they jumped, weaponless, to face him, and then fell back.

“As my lady of Suffolk saith,” said Lymond gently, “God is a marvellous man.” Eyes of cornflower blue rested thoughtfully on Sir Wat. “I had fallen behind with the gossip.… Nouvelle amour, nouvelle affection; nouvelles fleurs parmi l’herbe nouvelle. Tell Richard his bride has yet to meet her brother-in-law, her Sea-Catte, her Sea-Scorpion, beautiful in the breeding season. What a pity you didn’t wear your swords.”

Rage mottled Buccleuch’s face. “Ye murdering cur.… You’ll end this night—”

“I know. Flensed, basted and flayed, and off to hang on a six-shilling gibbet—keep your distance—but not tonight. The city is not full great, but it hath good baths within him. And tonight the frogs and mice fight, eh, Mungo?”

“Man’s mad,” said Buccleuch positively. He had managed to pick up a firedog.

“Mungo doesn’t think so,” said Lymond. “His mind is on fleshly lusts and his treasure.” And certainly, the jennet fur at his neck warped with sweat, Mungo Tennant was gaping at the intruder.

Lymond smiled back. “Be careful,” he said. “Pits are yawning publicly at your feet. O mea celia, vale, you know …” And suddenly, it came to Mungo what he was threatening.

“Don’t linger, I pray you, cuckoo, while you run away,” said the sage. Mungo Tennant said nothing. He rushed toward Lymond, collided with Tom Erskine on the way, and falling, sat on the candle. There was a moment’s indescribable hubbub while the three men and the firedog blundered cursing into each other in the dark; then they got to the far door and wrenched it open. The corridor as far as the stairhead was quite empty, and the light feet running downward were already some distance away. They hurled themselves after him.

I imagine all the things he says are, like, super-clever classical references, but I am, alas, too uncultured to understand what they are.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

zoux posted:

I've been in one of those ruts where you just can't find anything you like, bouncing off even well-written, well-plotted stuff, so I was surprised at how hard Library of Mount Char grabbed me. Fantastic scope, outstanding characters and dialogue, intricate and elegant plotting, I could go on forever. What a unique book!

Anyway, I need 100 recommendations for books exactly like it. I can't believe this dude has written one fiction book almost 10 years ago, what's he doing with himself

Gaiman's Sandman, a little bit.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

A Proper Uppercut posted:

I need more stuff like Beware of Chicken. I got desperate enough and read up to the current updates on Royal Road, which I never thought I would do. Has anyone read it and found other things that scratched the same itch? That itch being something like...cozy progression fantasy? That kinda subverts some of the genre stuff? I've never read anything specifically xianxia (didn't even know it was a whole genre until I started BoC on a recommendation).

It's not quite the same, but try stuff in https://www.reddit.com/r/CozyFantasy/wiki/recommendationguide. You'll probably enjoy Legends and Lattes, at least.

I'll second the recommendation of TUTBAD. For other slice-of-life that I enjoyed, try I've Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level and Forging Hephaestus.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

head58 posted:

I put forward Mount Char for our book club thanks to the praise from this thread. Everyone is loving it. I just finished it last night and I feel like the ending sort of loses steam and wanders over the finish line, but it’s definitely incredibly impressive.

It's hard to land a story that ends up working on a cosmic scale. The fact that the ending works as much as it does is already very impressive, yeah.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
One star reviews are also useful. Often you read it and think "oh that's extremely dumb, I actually have a better impression of this book now".

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
never understood the weird superiority complex goons have about reddit

you guys are kidding yourself if you think you're any less lame than an average redditor

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
counterpoint: FYAD exists and people actually pay money to post there

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
On the other hand

https://twitter.com/greenTetra_/status/1653305804282384389

https://twitter.com/greenTetra_/status/1653305808166240256

https://www.artstation.com/a-lun

Doesn't mean that particular piece hasn't been generated, but still, it's not a great look for the witch hunters

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

grassy gnoll posted:

"Witch hunters," get the gently caress out of here.

If it's not generated art, then it's a really lovely piece that made a lot of nonsensical mistakes. Putting aside there creative editing going on in these awful Twitter posts, do you honestly think this person just forgot how to paint all of a sudden?

I'm not sure where the creative editing is in these ~*AWFUL POSTS*~, I just see a bunch of screenshots of some dude's Youtube channel and Artstation page, but I am sorry I have impugned you(?), you definitely seem chill and poo poo.

The lovely PIECE does look somewhat sus on second glance, but it was good enough for Clarksworld to actually use it before the shitstorm began.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
That's the yin and the yang of urban fantasy; what would even be in your so called "urban fantasy" which had neither of these things?!

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Beachcomber posted:

Do you need a beta reader?

You can do one better and go buy and read our fellow goon's newts' fun, well-reviewed UF novels The Night City and The Night People over at Amazon! (Plug plug plug PLUG PLUG PLUG.)

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Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

SimonChris posted:

https://nihilistic-kid.livejournal.com/1922794.html

This blog post is a good analysis of the difference between Chandler's style and wannabe imitators like Butcher. Chandler is concise while his imitators make their narrators ramble on and on with cynical observations.

He's not wrong, but the one book of his I've read was pretty loving boring, tbh, and I've greatly enjoyed inhaling Butcher's shlock.

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