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RoboFrance_29
Jul 15, 2010

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https://i.imgur.com/5WEAvaM.mp4

Hello! This thread is all about the most enthusiastic & wonderfully underrated sport (imo) of RallyCross (RX)! :justpost: whatever RallyCross crap you want in here. Got some favorite gifs? Let's see 'em. Got vids of your rally rig making a dirt cloud? That's also pretty cool, I wanna see that too. Wanna discuss all the events this season in FIA/ARX/whatever? Let's do it.

I looked around but didn't see any active threads for the topic so apologies for the potential redundancy. Let me know if I'm confusing or I've missed something in this post and I'll update it. Now, on to the actual content!


What the hell is RallyCross even?

Well, since you asked, it's effectively mixed-surface circuit driving in rally cars. In the FIA categories, each race consists of 4-6 laps, and each driver must complete a "Joker" lap once per race to avoid getting a steep time penalty, but we'll talk about that later.

Each event has 3 parts:
- Qualifying sessions (Top-12 move on to next phase)
- Semi-Finals (Top-6 move on to next phase)
- Finals (winner is event winner, duh)


Typical Circuit Layout & The Joker Lap

https://i.imgur.com/hBtmepq.mp4

RX circuits are typically short, typically 0.5 - 0.8 miles in length. While all circuits are different, they all have several surface changes from pavement to dirt throughout the lap and typically there's at least one jump thrown in there as well, because why not? It's a recipe for a constantly evolving track and a lot of challenge for the drivers.

Now let's get to the joker. It's a longer path than the standard lap and adds a lot of strategy to the race, similar to how pit-stops are in F1. It's effectively an easy way for people to pass or get some clean air ahead, but there are also defensive strategies that are used too. There's a fair amount to say about Joker tactics, but I'll save that for some later discussion. All you need to know is that the drivers need to take it once per race. Unless a driver jumps the start, in which case they'll need to take two joker laps for the race.

Probably not everyone's favorite, but just to show a track with a lot of variety, here's a layout of an RX Track at COTA in Austin:


And a final race at the same location:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmgJ58ASr8U&t=4293s

Event Format

As mentioned before, there's three major parts in an event which earn you points throughout. Read on for more words!

Qualifying Heats
Each race per qualifying heat consists of 3-5 drivers, and there's as many races as needed to cover the number of entrants. There's typically four qualifying heats per driver and points are earned based on fastest times (instead of position). So you could win first in your qualifying races all day but still not be on top because someone in another race of the same qualifying heat can beat your time. But ultimately, you want have the points to be in the top 12 after qualifying, or else you don't advance to the semi-finals.

Semi-Finals
This time, only the top 12 from qualifying get to race in six-car races with six laps. With respect to points, the grids are arranged so that all of the odd-numbered positions are in one race, and the even-numbered positions are in the other. Top-three from both races get move on to the final.

Final
The top three finishers from the two semi-finals get to compete in the final. This is again a six-car race with six laps and the winner is crowned event champion! Usually this is the one to watch if you don't see any of the other parts of the event; people get clever, aggressive, and push push push.
https://i.imgur.com/sIyRXwQ.mp4


The Cars!
While I'm fairly new to the sport myself, I believe these are pretty much the basic classes.

Crosskart/ARX3
Rear-engine, RWD, lightweight/low-powered kart/buggy things. Typically an entry-point for drivers new to the sport

Super1600
Front-Engine, FWD, ~200hp, NA 1600cc 4cyl Hot-Hatches. Also an entry-point for drivers new to the sport


RX2
Identically built mid-engined, AWD, 310hp, NA 2.0L 4cyl cars. Basically the final class before you get to Supercar.


Supercar
Front-Engine, AWD, 600hp, Turbocharged 2.0L 4cyl monsters. :hellyeah:



How can I immerse myself into this awesome sport?

I don't have cable anymore but in the US I believe they run airings of the semi-finals & finals for each event on whatever sports channel (CBSSports, ESPNnumber, whatever). But I've been watching the FIA world & ARX championships on Youtube as they air the qualifying heats as well.

The final ARX event is this weekend at Mid-Ohio and 1st place is still within reach for the top drivers, so it should be a good event to watch. I'll post the livestream(s) if anyone is interested but you can also find them (and past streams) on the ARX RallyCross youtube page (same goes for the FIA world RX page as well).

Additionally, if you're like me and a total dork about this stuff and your wife hates you because of it, there's also video games with rallycross modes in them, namely the Dirt Rally series comes to mind. I'm playing my way through Dirt Rally 2.0 right now (PS4) and would definitely recommend it if you're at all interested in rally & driving games.


https://i.imgur.com/qhzbHpo.mp4

Let's get to discussin'!

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RoboFrance_29
Jul 15, 2010

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Nice, I'm glad I'm getting into it on a good season. Is manufacturers competing a typical thing? Or is that also typically part of whatever team they're on (ie, Hansen, GRX, or Monster)?

Also, I always thought teams are the one dumb thing about this sport. There's so few drivers anyway and when they're in a race together, it's about the team strategy and not the individual winning the race. Like last weekend at COTA, Bakkerud purposefully gave up a good lead to one of the other constant Subaru drivers (Atko or Sandell, don't remember). Just makes the races less interesting to watch :shrug:

RoboFrance_29
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Ah, I gotcha, makes sense. I think that's basically what Subaru is doing in the US but I'm glad that the playing field is more-level now for WRX, it's certainly been a good season so far.

ARX is on it's second year so I think they're still trying to get more entrants for future seasons. But this season it's effectively 8 drivers in the Supercar & RX2 classes respectively, so the events are usually a lot shorter. Still a good watch though if you're ever bored.

Scott Speed broke his back at some nitro rx event so they have Bakkerud & Joni Wiman filling in for him for the rest of the season but I guess the Subaru team orders are to give points to Atkinson or Sandell where they can since they've been competing the whole season. Still, would be cooler if they were competing by themselves since they all have really good pace.

RoboFrance_29
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Time to kick off the final event for the ARX season :rock: McConnell gonna win it in the RX2 group, I feel it in my bones

Here's the Q1 livestream (starts at 10:55cdt):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVSep4MU3Mk

RoboFrance_29 fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Oct 5, 2019

RoboFrance_29
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Adiabatic posted:

Whats wrong with the announcers eye

Lol idk, prob dust from practice

RoboFrance_29
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Oh cool, they changed the first turn too. Looks like they get some good speed

RoboFrance_29
Jul 15, 2010

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Fueled by angry farty bees

RoboFrance_29
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I think it's gonna be Karam v McConnell doing battle in the times

RoboFrance_29
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I'm not sure, I need to see if I can find their practice times. But they're not terribly far back in terms of time difference, maybe like a 20-30sec delta in race time?

RoboFrance_29
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And hell yeah, do it & post that poo poo!

RoboFrance_29
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Double yolker for Vacala

RoboFrance_29
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Lol better to jump now instead of the finals

RoboFrance_29
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Yeah, he's been tearing it up in WRX this season too, though a little further back but I think it's his first season competing

RoboFrance_29
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Hey it's that same goddamn Subaru ad!

RoboFrance_29
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Unfortunately yes. That's for skipping later when I take the dogs out

RoboFrance_29
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Love how they're all basically the same livery too ha

And it looks like theres a ~3sec delta between rx2 & supercar in the lap times

RoboFrance_29
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:3:

Hey now, don't dog a fast beetle (I type completely seriously and not ironically)

RoboFrance_29
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Thank u for ur service

RoboFrance_29
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Gonna go ahead and post the next one. Looks like it starts at 12:25pm(cdt)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xNnkw9DhOg

RoboFrance_29
Jul 15, 2010

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Next heat should be more interesting now that all the quick drivers are together

DO BATTLE FOR MY AMUSEMENT

RoboFrance_29
Jul 15, 2010

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Soopa car time

RoboFrance_29
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No prob, glad people are enjoying it it :D

RoboFrance_29
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Today's arx2 semis & finals (starts at 2:25cdt):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TouNJG-tqI

RoboFrance_29
Jul 15, 2010

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Fyi, next qualifying is at 8:55am(cdt). No stream up yet but just gettin' the word out :thumbsup:

RoboFrance_29
Jul 15, 2010

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Resurrecting the thread to give heads-up to any interested - the final round of the season for World RX is this weekend in South Africa and the championship is still very much up for grabs, so it'll be an interesting event with both SuperCar & RX2 competing. I'll post the livestreams when they're available but I'm totally not watching them live as I will be sleeping probably.

RoboFrance_29
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:siren: WRX is back! (sorta) :siren:

I'm way behind on posting up the race content but I'll have everything up to date here shortly.

With covid ruining everything fun, the season started up late. But hooray, more fast hatchbacks doing slidey things!

For now, here's the revised calendar for the 2020 season:



There's 10 rounds split between 6 locations so it's mostly double header weekends. For those, each event has only 3 qualifying sessions as opposed to the usual 4. Tire allocation for each of these shorter events is reduced as well.

For rounds 9 & 10, I'm not sure but I imagine the event format will go back to default (4 qualifying heats, 2 semi-final races, 1 final).

As for entrants, most of the 2019 drivers are returning along with some veterans from previous seasons.

Drivers / Teams

Robin Larsson #4 - KYB Team JC (Audi S1)
Mattias Ekström #5 - KYB Team JC (Audi S1)

Rene Muennich #77 - ALL-INKL.COM MÜNNICH MOTORSPORT (Seat Ibiza)
Timo Scheider #44 - ALL-INKL.COM MÜNNICH MOTORSPORT (Seat Ibiza)

Andreas Bakkerud #13 - Monster Energy GCK RX Cartel (Renault Megane)
Liam Doran #33 - Monster Energy GCK RX Cartel (Renault Megane)

Timmy Hansen #1 - Team Hansen (Peugeot 208) ***Last year's champ***
Kevin Hansen #9 - Team Hansen (Peugeot 208)

Niclas Gronholm #68 - GRX Taneco (Hyundai i20)
Timur Timerzyanov #7 - GRX Taneco (Hyundai i20)

Guerlain Chicherit #36 - Unkorrupted (Renault Clio)
Rokas Baciuska #14 - Unkorrupted (Renault Clio)

Anton Marklund #92 (Renault Megane)

Johan Kristoffersson #3 (VW Polo)

RoboFrance_29
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Rounds 1 & 2 - Sweden

Round 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQf31Dux8UE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvVs5VaRRrI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv7Ezvznbws

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F6uFywIEew



Round 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii63Fx13KU0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP0FEzOzxrA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNgAiUdKKks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAzqtHj9jck

RoboFrance_29
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Rounds 3 & 4 - Finland

Round 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xG9dXs1nsk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhD9lGvYCZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNRj1wUNdXQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzmvLPQ1nGw



Round 4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy8tZyuy01U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4V-1FXQyaM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6Z4RNpDIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxt1LbTrVtk

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Rounds 5 & 6 - Latvia

Round 5:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-nTL5jzAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dYR28h7RZU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nj09PtHQQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJKEBaeYN4



Round 6:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lAEzyOCyzk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK9zG8bKgIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4iDj3ov__A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf8UIuC_LCY

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RoboFrance_29
Jul 15, 2010

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ok, should be all caught up now. I know the qualifiers are posted, but if you don't want to watch them all I'd recommend just watching the finals as they do a pretty good job of recapping the qualifier shenanigans.

Hope you fine folks enjoy!

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