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Not Al-Qaeda posted:(the alley Chuka Umana posted:Also Joker in this movie is dumb as gently caress. I could only see him succeeding out of sheer luck Going to watch Taxi Driver and King of Comedy now for comparison.
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Vir posted:Joker's crimes were always more about mayhem and theatrics than actual profit, right? Yeah. That and his obsession with Batman.
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They are so much better then this... "homage". Jealous of your first timeness
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Oct 4, 2019 20:02
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King of Comedy streaming anywhere? I haven’t seen it in a very long time and want to again now. This movie wasn’t bad by any means but it did feel like a dumb guy’s idea of a smart movie at points.
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Real talk, is that homies actual shoulder blades or makeup enhanced?
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Oct 4, 2019 20:07
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Probably real. He lost like 50lbs for the role.
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King of Comedy is fuckin fantastic and worth the few bucks on prime. But Imma go ahead with a hot take taxi driver as boring and overrated, and most notable for the time it came out. It had a big impact at the time, it ushered in a new era of character driven Cinema at a time Hollywood was out of ideas save for ballooning budgets on Westerns and franchises that were tiring the audience. Only time will tell but I'd sure love it if Joker pushed the current superhero movie the way taxi driver pushed Hollywood then.
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Edit ^^^ Thanks, I got Prime to watch Undone, and it seems they have a site for my country now with more than just the made-for-Amazon shows that I got access to on Amazon.com. And yeah, King of Comedy is on it.  RBA Starblade posted:How many times does Mr. Phoenix get noticeably erect Wait, were you making a boner joke? Vir fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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Donovan Trip posted:King of Comedy is fuckin fantastic and worth the few bucks on prime. But Imma go ahead with a hot take taxi driver as boring and overrated, and most notable for the time it came out. It had a big impact at the time, it ushered in a new era of character driven Cinema at a time Hollywood was out of ideas save for ballooning budgets on Westerns and franchises that were tiring the audience. Only time will tell but I'd sure love it if Joker pushed the current superhero movie the way taxi driver pushed Hollywood then. That history of Hollywood is completely wrong, Mew Hollywood has been around since 1967. In fact Taxi Driver was really at the end of that era since Star Wars came out the next year and ruined movies by bringing in nerds. IGN giving this film a 10 shows that we really need less reviewers whose two favorite films are Star Wars and Ghostbusters.
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This was good fun but like everybody says, really, really derivative. Not just the obvious King of Comedy and Taxi Driver (hilarious to claim it has little in common with Taxi Driver when it literally features characters doing the exact same pistol finger thing as Travis Bickle at the end of that film, puffed up lips and all) but a whole lot of The Machinist too (the way the emaciated main character is shot, the single mother motif that turns out to be imaginary etc). But hey, it was entertaining in a Logan kind of way. Oh and it wasn't overly long (still could've lost a solid 20-25 minutes).
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achtungnight posted:4. Troy Baker (Batman Arkham Origins). They movies themselves vary wildly in quality, but he (and John DiMaggio also) does good as the Joker in several of the DTV animated movies too.
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attn fbi: we live in a society, slonk gang weed
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Not Al-Qaeda posted:man i didnt like the shoehorned comic book references (the alley, joker bloodsmile), while i assume other people loved them/wanted more. Main issues: I think it was possible to figure out that he was delusional about the neighbor without outright saying so; the early talk show scene establishes this I do think the alley scene is necessary and I was just relieved that they in fact did not have the joker himself kill Batman's parents and I'm glad they got it over with really fast, didn't draw it out. I don't mind that the movie possesses a muddle of a message. To me the Joker becomes most strongly the Joker when he is just saying whatever he feels like, true or not, and that was well done. As Arthur learns his life is a delusion built on other delusions, eventually he seems to realize that he may as well add more to the pile instead of trying to find out the truth. His final scene on the talk show is just Arthur dying on the show, exactly as he imagined. The final scene was entirely unnecessary and should have been left out. Overall a worthwhile inverse origin story. re: centrism, probably the stupidest thing about the movie ends up being the director saying it has something to say about "wokeness", the movie is almost bereft of any message save 1980s racism/suburban fear of the city Typhoon Jim fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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Movie should have ended with the camera pulling back from the monitors.
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Vir posted:Edit ^^^ Thanks, I got Prime to watch Undone, and it seems they have a site for my country now with more than just the made-for-Amazon shows that I got access to on Amazon.com. And yeah, King of Comedy is on it. A joker movie isn't complete if he isn't making boners left and right!
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Typhoon Jim posted:Main issues: I think this was my biggest issue with the movie. It tells too often when it has already shown - Like you said, we can figure out his date scenes with Zazie Beats’ character were a fantasy. It should have stopped when she came in the apartment and it was clear she was afraid. We didn’t need Fight Club-esque flashbacks showing the fantasy scenes without her. - Similarly, we saw Fleck reading the file about his mom and that he was adopted. We didn’t need a flashback asylum sequence with him literally leaning on the wall as a ghostly observer.
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I didn't mind those scenes. And you kind of need them to make clear that we're dealing with an unreliable narrator, otherwise we'd be swamped with people who didn't put two and two together for whatever reason. But yes, it should have ended on the monitors, or the clown riots.
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Blast Fantasto posted:I think this was my biggest issue with the movie. It tells too often when it has already shown This is a movie for edgy couples that dress in Joker/Harley Halloween costumes. Those people absolutely need those scenes.
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Oct 4, 2019 21:35
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Chud morons are saying the bad guys in joker are antifa please confirm
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Blast Fantasto posted:I think this was my biggest issue with the movie. It tells too often when it has already shown I think you are vastly overestimating the average comic-book movie-goer. A more niche movie can afford to respect the audience. But a movie that is projected to hit > $80 million on the first weekend has to account for thousands of viewers that struggle to read text, let alone subtext.
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golden bubble posted:viewers that struggle to read text, let alone subtext.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Chud morons are saying the bad guys in joker are antifa please confirm
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The Alamo near me now has security with bag checks and every person entering has to het metal detectored by hand also dang
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Neo Rasa posted:The Alamo near me now has security with bag checks and every person entering has to het metal detectored by hand also dang There were uniformed cops at the AMC I went to.
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The one I went to in Manhattan just had a sign that said this wasn't your normal comic book movie and that was it. Whatever that was supposed to accomplish 🤷♂️
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Oh mine had that too. I think that was mostly a preventive measure for the theater to reduce the amount of refunds they’d have to give to people bringing their kids into it
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Neo Rasa posted:The Alamo near me now has security with bag checks and every person entering has to het metal detectored by hand also dang The marketing for this film is loving genius. It's like a modern day William Castle - they should bring back the gimmick where you get a life insurance policy when you enter that pays out if you don't survive a screening.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Oh mine had that too. I think that was mostly a preventive measure for the theater to reduce the amount of refunds they’d have to give to people bringing their kids into it I'm pretty sure they discussed the type of parent that would bring their kid to a 11:45pm showing of this movie, in this movie. All the layers. It's been a minute but this was pretty much the gist of his "origin" in killing joke minus the red hood stuff no?
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Chuka Umana posted:Also Joker in this movie is dumb as gently caress. I could only see him succeeding out of sheer luck He's like if Overly Attached Girlfriend was actually crazy and was adopted as a mascot for a class war Roman fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Oct 5, 2019 |
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Necrothatcher posted:The marketing for this film is loving genius. It's like a modern day William Castle - they should bring back the gimmick where you get a life insurance policy when you enter that pays out if you don't survive a screening. It really is nuts, you gotta hand it to 'em.
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Uncle Wemus posted:Chud morons are saying the bad guys in joker are antifa please confirm No, the cops and the rich people aren't antifa.
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Oct 5, 2019 02:06
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it was us, we were todd phillip's joker, all along.
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Vir posted:
I don't know how a man who can't spell "sense" right can outsmart manbat
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Chuka Umana posted:I don't know how a man who can't spell "sense" right can outsmart manbat yeah. plus if they do make a joker for the new movies, i doubt it will be this one. zer0spunk posted:i still can't tell what the general public consensus on this is going to be after this opening weekend from looking at various sites. it seems like alot of opinions are mostly positive at this point or at the very least the whole "incel hero, this shouldnt come out" stuff is mostly dead.
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Blast Fantasto posted:There were uniformed cops at the AMC I went to.
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Homeybeef posted:I sympathise with the character of Joker. Just like him I also wanted to be dead an hour and a half in to this movie yeah same. Movie bad.
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Chuka Umana posted:I don't know how a man who can't spell "sense" right can outsmart manbat It was a joke about making money.
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Eifert Posting posted:I took a post-grad course in postwar soviet cinematography and the Joker is the darkest film I have ever seen. Yeah, it really reminded me of a Louis Malle film I saw a while back, The Fire Within. I think marketing it as Scorsese-inspired was bad for the movie. Now everyone's treating the look of the city as Pre-Giulliani NY instead of being what Gotham's always been. Now he's just a Travis Bickle ripoff instead of what Joker's always been, a deranged psychopatic unreliable narrator. And there's King of Comedy allusions because he's a comedian and it has Robert de Niro when he's not even attempting to get a slot on the show nor is he a big fan.
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sorry op. this thread has to be closed for everyone's safety. it's just too  dangerous brought to you by society
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