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bloody ghost titty
Oct 23, 2008

tHROW SOME D"s ON THAT BIZNATCH
I have to stump for the homies at Spicewalla, these are dope and cost about as much as the local national grocery chain. Big fan of getting the staple boxes as new apartment gifts— encourage people to throw away their dusty old stuff.

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dino.
Mar 28, 2010

Yip Yip, bitch.
If you're afraid of heavy metals in your spices, call the spice vendor, and ask if they require their importers to supply heavy metal testing for each lot. You don't need to ask to SEE said report, but merely if they require and get the information. Any good spice vendor will keep on hand heavy metal testing results for each lot of spices that they import, because adulteration is a serious concern. That said, I've seen that the spices from Kerala, Tamil Nadu, and Sri Lanka tend to be pretty safe. The stuff from North India also tends to be legit, except when you're talking about saffron, because usually it's just Spanish saffron with a Kashmiri saffron label slapped on it, and a significant markup.

The major adulteration issues came from Bangladesh. India seems to have not had that much of an issue.

THAT SAID. For turmeric in particular, put some in some water, and add baking soda. It should turn red. If it's not turning vibrant fire engine red, you've got garbage on your hands.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
Some Indian food, for those interested:


A fancy version of your standard "pre-lib" veg burger. Every fast food/cafe/burger place/etc. in Delhi sells something like this. A vegetable (mostly potato)-based crispy patty, plus slaw, vegetables, etc. Typically vegan unless you add cheese, because the mayo here is usually made without eggs.


The best street food stall near me; also a little famous (and much more extensive than most street food vendors - it's a permanent building). They sell all sorts of stuff, savory and sweet, most of which is fried. Today I got:


Samosa and


Kachoris (the fried balls) which come with a potato soup sort of thing that you dip them in (plus pickled carrot and green chili).

All absolutely delicious! The samosa + kachoris together cost the equivalent of $0.78.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Anybody have a good recipe for pav bhaji and pav bhaji masala?

I found this one for pav bhaji:

https://www.vegrecipesofindia.com/pav-bhaji-recipe-mumbai-pav-bhaji-a-fastfood-recipe-from-mumbai/

Which adds more veggies (some cauliflower) and less potato it looks like. Or am I better off going potato heavy?

Her recipe for the masala had a lot of stuff in it, not sure what to think about all of it.

https://www.vegrecipesofindia.com/pav-bhaji-masala-powder-recipe/#wprm-recipe-container-136083

quote:

▢ 1/4 cup cumin seeds (jeera) – 26 grams
▢ 2 tablespoon fennel seeds (saunf) – 15 grams
▢ 2 tablespoon coriander seeds (sabut dhania) – 11 grams
▢ 1 tablespoon mace (javitri) – 3 grams
▢ 1 tablespoon cloves (lavang) – 6 grams
▢ 1 tablespoon black peppercorns (sabut kali mirch) – 10 grams
▢ 2 black cardamoms (badi elaichi) – 5 to 6 grams
▢ 3 star anise (chakriphool) – 2 grams
▢ 1 small nutmeg (jaiphal) – 5 grams

▢ 5 cinnamon sticks (dalchini) – each of about 2 inches – 4 grams
▢ 5 to 6 dry red chilies (sookhi lal mirch) – preferably kashmiri red chilies – 4 grams, seeds removed
▢ 2 tablespoon dry mango powder (amchur powder)
▢ 1 tablespoon dry ginger powder (saunth)
▢ 2 teaspoon black salt or edible rock salt or regular salt – optional
▢ 1 teaspoon turmeric powder (haldi) – optional

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Alright trip report: Pav Bhaji was tasty! I've never had it from a restaurant so I have no idea if that recipe is good or not.

I probably wouldn't use black cardamom again though. It was smoky, but not in a good way. It was like some dude's cigarettes smoky not chipotle smoky.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
A fun Indian snack:



Aam papad khatta: chewy mango candy covered with a very sour powder.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks

TychoCelchuuu posted:


The best street food stall near me; also a little famous (and much more extensive than most street food vendors - it's a permanent building). They sell all sorts of stuff, savory and sweet, most of which is fried. Today I got:


Samosa and


I think I could live on samosa alone if I had a variety of things to dip them in.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
Some delicious recent restaurant food:


Arunachal Pradesh food. On the left in the bowls are plain boiled vegetables and dal. On the plate around the rice, clockwise from the left, are a sort of slaw thing, a greens dish, a spicy salsa sort of thing, some fermented vegetables, and some pickled vegetables.


Bihari food. This is litti chokha, balls of wheat filled with spiced besan. Served with chana dal (big bowl), eggplant (left), and mashed potatoes (right).

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
And the mangos are beginning to show up. Here is a Raspuri mango:

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
I've been checking out some recipes for garlic pickles recently. Here are three examples:

https://aahaaramonline.com/garlic-pickle-vellulli-avakaya/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Cq1C7zG1U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ws7suGlJbU

Notice they all involve putting raw garlic in oil and then peaceing out. I've always been told this is a recipe for growing botulin toxin, which will kill you. What gives? I mean to be fair I see people do stuff multiple times every day in India that would be considered unsafe in e.g. America, but I would think that food traditions would typically be safe, or else they'd die out over time because the people who cook the unsafe food would die out too, right? Any thoughts? I might crosspost this to the general thread or something because I went ahead and made the first recipe but I haven't eaten it yet because I'm worried I'll die.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
I’m not doing the math to figure out how safe those recipes are, but botulism can’t get a foothold if there’s enough acid or salt. I suspect that’s either happening there or intended to happen there.

e: If you’re concerned but lukewarm on math and research, just eat them within a couple days. You can even make the classic murdery garlic in olive oil botulism playground as long as you leave it in the fridge and eat it within a few days.

Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 07:53 on Apr 14, 2024

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
I don't know what counts as enough acid or salt, but these recipes have way less acid and/or salt than I typically see in Indian pickles (and other kinds of preserved foods) so I'm still a little unsure.

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
They are quick pickles. They probably last less long then the garlic would last on your shelf.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.

VictualSquid posted:

They are quick pickles. They probably last less long then the garlic would last on your shelf.
This despite the fact that I don't think a single person in India treats them like a quick pickle? E.g. the first recipes wants you to wait 2 weeks before even eating it.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Anybody have a favorite aloo gobi recipe?

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
Aloo gobi is one of the things that can be made so many ways that I don't have a single favorite recipe. But I like it when it's made with kasuri methi, like this recipe.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Thanks looks good.

Whats the difference between the dried methi and fresh methi? I think a store near me sells fresh methi leaves, not 100% sure if they have the dried leaves or not.

I'm sure my usual Indian grocery has the dried ones too.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
It's the same as the difference between pretty much any dried leaf and fresh leaf. Some difference in taste, huge difference in texture, etc.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Alright turned out fine, definitely didn't put in enough turmeric, and could use a lot more cumin I think.



Much less dry than the pictures, not sure how it would end up semi-dry with as much tomato as it asks for.

TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
Looks delicious! Tomatoes can vary vastly in their water content so maybe that's why yours is dryer.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Yeah I had a think about it and it’s probably because I used however many cups of tinned tomato sauce rather than however many cups of chopped up tomatoes.

I usually just use canned tomato since fresh tomatoes are usually kinda dire at this time of year around here.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Eeyo posted:

Which adds more veggies (some cauliflower) and less potato it looks like. Or am I better off going potato heavy?

you can do whatever veggies you have on hand, i would say the core is cauliflower, green pepper, and potatoes

i rarely use more than 1 black cardamom when cooking

Bollock Monkey
Jan 21, 2007

The Almighty

Eeyo posted:

Thanks looks good.

Whats the difference between the dried methi and fresh methi? I think a store near me sells fresh methi leaves, not 100% sure if they have the dried leaves or not.

I'm sure my usual Indian grocery has the dried ones too.

Ooh, if you can get fresh methi then give this a go! I made it at a cooking class and it was delicious, here's the recipe:

Aloo methi

80 ml oil
1 teaspoon mustard seeds
1 teaspoon cumin seeds
2 tablespoons garlic+ginger paste
1 teaspoon turmeric
1 tablespoon coriander powder
1 tablespoon green chilli paste - more if needed!
½ -1 teaspoon salt
600g potatoes, skin on, washed and chopped into bite size pieces
1 bunch methi (150g) - wash and use leaves only
2 tablespoons kasoori methi (dried methi)
Fresh coriander (for garnish) – small handful of leaves and stem, roughly chopped

Heat the oil. Add mustard seeds and pop. Spoon in the cumin seeds, brown for a few seconds. Add the garlic+ginger paste and cook until the sting of garlic has gone. Add the chilli paste, turmeric and coriander powders, and salt and mix well.

Pour in the potatoes and mix thoroughly. Cover and cook on a low heat for up to 15 minutes until potatoes are ¾ cooked, stirring occasionally. Uncover and cook for a few minutes until potatoes are practically done. Fold in the fresh fenugreek leaves and sprinkle over with the dried. Mix well and check for seasoning before serving. Garnish with the fresh coriander.

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TychoCelchuuu
Jan 2, 2012

This space for Rent.
My favorite aloo methi is this one because it has the last amount of poo poo to bother with. One of my favorite dishes. I like versions of aloo methi made with dried methi too but the fresh one is the classic one.

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