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i mean, it's just android
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The time has finally come: Meta is closing down App Lab https://developer.oculus.com/blog/a-more-open-ecosystem-for-developers/ in order to fold it into the store itself, so there's now one route for submissions and everyone can go straight to the main store
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Apr 22, 2024 17:32
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Al! posted:i mean, it's just android Meta's endgame's always been their own contained, and harvestable, ecosystem across all platforms in Horizon. That and they REALLY want it to be Internet Version 2, with people doing games/work/meetings/shopping/everything in Horizon. But nobody's buying in. Nobody's going to buy in. And that puts their whole project dead in the water. Opening up the platform is a tacit acknowledgement of that failure.
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Apr 22, 2024 17:43
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Meta's endgame's always been their own contained, and harvestable, ecosystem across all platforms in Horizon. That and they REALLY want it to be Internet Version 2, with people doing games/work/meetings/shopping/everything in Horizon. see this is where ive always been with the technology. if they can figure out how to make it a competitive gaming console (the only reason you can get most normal people to strap something to their heads just to try it) maybe then they can move on to the other stuff, but they havent even done that yet. maybe training in a specialized field or with specialized equipment. ive yet to see an example where vr could make someone more productive at work than a standard desktop and multimonitor setup
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Apr 22, 2024 17:52
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Lemming posted:The time has finally come: Meta is closing down App Lab Ohh, together the other announcement, big news today! (also, I was tempted to quote only the first sentence to make it bait worthy :P)
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Apr 22, 2024 18:00
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Idk Meta has put a lot of dev work into the quest software, doing a shitload of genuine advancement on things like tracking, etc. It's not the craziest idea that they've decided to open it up to third parties who want to make headsets but don't want to roll the software from scratch. E: it's "just" android but more importantly it's android on an available snapdragon chip with well known and well documented reference designs.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:35
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I imagine it's equal parts motivation from their whole-hog descent into AI, the poor direction they went with VR went over the last few years, and a need to bolster their image in a time where Google is fading and Microsoft is clawing back to the top of the top. So a fresh injection of life for a huge part of their company that's being 2nd-placed seems like a good idea despite a lessening of Apple-style hard gardening.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:47
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Von Linus posted:I imagine everyone has been breathlessly waiting for my vr updates: Pick up synth riders if you want a non beat saber game to play that can work you out, is fun, and has decent music. Audio trip is trash. Always has been always will be.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:59
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EbolaIvory posted:Pick up synth riders if you want a non beat saber game to play that can work you out, is fun, and has decent music. Seconded.
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Apr 22, 2024 20:00
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EbolaIvory posted:Pick up synth riders if you want a non beat saber game to play that can work you out, is fun, and has decent music. I had to give up on Audio Trip specifically because of the Quest 3's dismal controller tracking plus a forced level with "even more precise targeting" as a challenge lol. Synth Riders is one of the best rhythm games on the platform for sure and allows you to easily import custom tracks without jumping through any hardware-level hoops
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Apr 22, 2024 20:47
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I had to give up on Audio Trip specifically because of the Quest 3's dismal controller tracking plus a forced level with "even more precise targeting" as a challenge lol. Audio trip suffers from a lot of BS the devs just didn't listen to players about as well. It was a poo poo show when it was rave runners or whatever, its a poo poo show now.
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Apr 22, 2024 21:05
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Any recommended mappers or curators for Synth Riders custom tracks? Synthwave isn't really my genre so I don't love the built-in stuff.
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Thoom posted:Any recommended mappers or curators for Synth Riders custom tracks? Synthwave isn't really my genre so I don't love the built-in stuff. I just go here and sort by most downloaded and work my way down grabbing stuff that interests me, personally.
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Apr 22, 2024 21:43
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Teebo is a fave of mine, I'll have to check to see if any other names stand out in my custom playlist.
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Apr 22, 2024 21:44
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I had to give up on Audio Trip specifically because of the Quest 3's dismal controller tracking The Q3 has bad controller tracking? Haven't noticed this at all
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Apr 22, 2024 21:58
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AndrewP posted:The Q3 has bad controller tracking? Haven't noticed this at all It's not as good as 2, I think. The light bar over the 2'a controller really helped with tracking. Question 3 seems to lose it in the peripherals. I really can't play Beat Saber on it unless I'm in great lighting
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Apr 22, 2024 22:07
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I have heard that as well. Like the rings on the Q2 controllers, while bulbous, do actually provide better tracking due to not being blocked as much as the ones on the Q3 controllers.
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Apr 22, 2024 22:10
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Von Linus posted:22: Meta Horizon Worlds: I went to a virtual comedy club and it was bad then I went to a virtual haunted high school with 2 children playing and I left. It seems like a waste of time. Just stick to VRChat plus a group like Ancients of VRChat (18+ members only) if you want to do VR social stuff.
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Apr 22, 2024 22:20
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In a weird way VRChat is a lot like the old internet, it’s private and scattered enough that you need to hunt to find what’s good and then make friends with small crowds
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Apr 22, 2024 22:41
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explosivo posted:I have heard that as well. Like the rings on the Q2 controllers, while bulbous, do actually provide better tracking due to not being blocked as much as the ones on the Q3 controllers. I've noticed this with mini golf a lot, holding the controller pointing down doesn't give the headset much of a view without the ring. I also kind of miss hooking the ring with my pinkie when I need to use my hand for something, so the controller doesn't just swing around.
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Apr 22, 2024 23:00
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Let's be real, the Quest ecosystem is the largest VR market by far. Meta seems to have also given up on making any new premium headsets. If this results in a 3rd party making something as well made as the Rift CV1 or the Valve Index, but within the Quest ecosystem, that would be pretty great overall.
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Apr 22, 2024 23:26
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Anyone ever have an issue where the quest link app thinks your quest 3 is a Rift? Edit: also anyone have any recommendations for a better face pad? d0grent fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Apr 22, 2024 23:37
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Right now we've got Quest for Android and Steam/Rift for Windows, and given that everyone else has given up it's probably best that we stick with those for now and worry about a more diverse ecosystem when people are actually buying more games and headsets.
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diversifying your hardware seems, to me, to be problematic when devs are already saying theyre having a hard time justifying development for the vr platform. now youre adding a bunch of new configurations for them to have to support? at least on pc theres the openxr and openvr api standards
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Al! posted:diversifying your hardware seems, to me, to be problematic when devs are already saying theyre having a hard time justifying development for the vr platform. now youre adding a bunch of new configurations for them to have to support? at least on pc theres the openxr and openvr api standards I would not complain if more headsets were sold
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Al! posted:diversifying your hardware seems, to me, to be problematic when devs are already saying theyre having a hard time justifying development for the vr platform. now youre adding a bunch of new configurations for them to have to support? at least on pc theres the openxr and openvr api standards I won't be surprised if all these other manufacturer's headsets have basically identical hardware to the quest 3 and quest 3 lite and they only differentiate on overall headset design
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Meta's endgame's always been their own contained, and harvestable, ecosystem across all platforms in Horizon. That and they REALLY want it to be Internet Version 2, with people doing games/work/meetings/shopping/everything in Horizon. At least they faced reality, it only took 10 years!
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TIP posted:I won't be surprised if all these other manufacturer's headsets have basically identical hardware to the quest 3 and quest 3 lite and they only differentiate on overall headset design Yeah, there's a shitload of tradeoffs in headset design and I'm sure there's room in the market for different configurations with essentially the same low-level design underneath it all.
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the asus one is for sure going to fill the niche of having RGB esports lighting all over it
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explosivo posted:I have heard that as well. Like the rings on the Q2 controllers, while bulbous, do actually provide better tracking due to not being blocked as much as the ones on the Q3 controllers. I never had a problem with the rings, personally. Except when I smacked a wall with one playing Gorn
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I hope licensing out the Quest ecosystem is part of some behind closed doors quid pro quo with Google to bring over full fat Android (Boz has said they’ve been trying to do so, but Google wanted too much in return). Otherwise this sounds an awful lot like PR speak for “the VR pivot failed”.
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Just curious but is the install for new software incredibly slow in the quest 2 for anyone else? I've been downloading walkabout golf (5gb) for about 4 hours now. It's connected to wifi, it's just taking forever to download and install. Just wondering if it's me or something weird with them.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Just curious but is the install for new software incredibly slow in the quest 2 for anyone else? That doesn't seem normal,no. Reboot it. And the router just in case. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Meta's endgame's always been their own contained, and harvestable, ecosystem across all platforms in Horizon. That and they REALLY want it to be Internet Version 2, with people doing games/work/meetings/shopping/everything in Horizon. I said it the past year. After three years with a headset, I think VR will be a niche. Once the hardware*/software platform improves it will be a bigger niche, mind you, but I don't think it will ever be something mainstream. Few people are interested in TOTAL IMMERSION. I think it's more something that 1 in 15 will dig. They wasted billions and billions on research/whoknowswhat that they will never recoup. The initial wow effect of VR disappears after some months. It happened to me. And even with that initial 'wow effect', lots of people are not interested, I showed it to the family once, and yeah no one was interested in buying one. *Comfort imo is still a big issue. 500 grams on your face is too much.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I had to give up on Audio Trip specifically because of the Quest 3's dismal controller tracking plus a forced level with "even more precise targeting" as a challenge lol. I did that tiny hands one. loving shite, that was. But I enjoyed the game anyway.
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Apr 23, 2024 09:39
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https://gizmodo.com/apple-vision-pro-already-forgotten-about-1851426564 Not that Apple is dong better!
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Its going to be ok. VR is fun, cool even.
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Turin Turambar posted:https://gizmodo.com/apple-vision-pro-already-forgotten-about-1851426564 I like how this article says it's considered a failure that some stores are only selling a couple $3,000 VR headsets per week. Like I'm sure they aren't moving as many as they thought they might but it's not like something that people will be clamoring into a store to buy regularly.
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PSA: I requested a refund for Umurangi Generation. It seemed kinda buggy, and it used retroprojection, despite having primitive graphics (even more primitive than the already primitive graphics of the pc version lol).
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AccountSupervisor posted:Its going to be ok. VR is fun, cool even. yeah good luck to anyone who wants to turn vr into more than what the tech can handle at this point but as an entertainment console the tech is more or less there and it makes a great case for itself as doing something other consoles cant
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