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Aphrodite posted:That’s not the original line. The 7th Kavalry have changed it from politicians. Ah I stand corrected. Interesting change.
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It’s not the first time racists take something and twist it for their own poo poo.
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The robot servants thing seemed pretty loving weird. Like you know he fucks them when the cameras aren't looking type thing.
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Rewatching first episode. Don Johnson's death may not be what it seems. His quote after the weapons release "it's my funeral," that was sneaky. 7th Cavalry was Custer's unit and responsible for wiping out the Indians, so ethnic cleansing. So going to guess that racism and alt right views are threatening to destabilize the world in some fashion. Given the one racist kid talked about "Redfordations" at the being of the episode, I'm going to guess Redford is a liberal president. That liberalism gained a solid footing after Nixon left office and with 30 years of liberal policies a lot of things can get addressed, things that will piss off people that are fellow travellers with the 7th Cav. Also I'm guessing liberalism is starting to wane and that the President being an older guy but powerful is essentially the last stop gap before some a bunch of stupid racists have their way. So something needs to happen that now takes the focus off race and makes alt right views moot. In the Watchmen it was the specter of mutually assured destruction, which was offset by the threat of inter-dimensional alien invasions. So now Veidt has something planned that involves Doctor Manhattan, who was the son of a watch maker, hence the title of the play. So perhaps Veidt plans to convince Dr. Manhattan that the only way to protect humanity is to make humanity like a will driven watch. So his robotic servants are the Adam and Eve of a hybrid humanity programmed to be mindless dipshits where conformity is achieved through brainless obedience. I'll see if the New Frontiersman will publish these findings. Edit: Listen to the radio right Don Johnson gets killed. They talk about all kinds of liberal policies that these assholes hate and some dystopian Alt Righter mounting a challenge for the White House. Alkabob fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Oct 21, 2019 03:50
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I loved this. Before I saw the ep, I knew it was set in Oklahoma but wasn’t sure why. I saw Bass Reeves and thought “that makes sense”. Then I saw the Black Wall Street massacre and Oklahoma as the setting made so much sense.
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Amateur Saboteur posted:i initially thought my boy was getting the top while at his type writer Pretty sure everybody did. lol Anyway the "it's my funeral" scene was just foreshadowing. Probably isn't some ultra secret sinister plan by Don Johnson. Who knows. Maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully. I like Don Johnson.
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7th Cavalry is certainly a logical endpoint for Rorschach’s ideology in the comic. It’s a much better reading than Snyder's worshipful lens of Rorschach in the movie.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:55
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Hey the russian guy is the russian guy from the Limitless movie. I have no idea what else he was been in.
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Revol posted:How so? I don't see it. I can't imagine how you could say the Cavalry is liberal. (The police force has to be conservative, right?) Their video to the police specifically said they were going to make the libs cry. They had a republican in the interrogation chamber asking if he agreed with taxation. He lied and said yes. It's some weird alternate dimension where democrats have driven republicans underground.
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Le Saboteur posted:7th Cavalry is certainly a logical endpoint for Rorschach’s ideology in the comic. It’s a much reading than Snyder worshipful lens of Rorschach in the movie. Alan Moore, when asked if he'd watch the movie, basically said "hell no, I saw 300 and that director is a loving fascist xenophobe. I don't want to have anything to do with it."
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I thought Looking Glass asked if they wanted to call the Red Knight in the hospital, but I guess he said 'Red and Night' or something.
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I can't tell if the woke liberal fascist state vs racist rednecks thing is supposed to be satire or not. On one hand it's based on an Alan Moore thing, on the other hand it's the perfect good vs evil template for a liberal audience.
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Mercrom posted:I can't tell if the woke liberal fascist state vs racist rednecks thing is supposed to be satire or not. On one hand it's based on an Alan Moore thing, on the other hand it's the perfect good vs evil template for a liberal audience. A lot of the reviews mentioned theres more depth to it than this in the first 6 episodes.
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Oct 21, 2019 04:14
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Don't you dare drop blood on it. Don't you dare drop blood on it. Oh my god this is so bad.
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*watches show* man...this sound track slaps! ~someone~ listened to a bunch of Trent Reznor... *reads credits* 
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Oct 21, 2019 04:24
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And then Trent Reznor listened to a bunch of John Carpenter.
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Aphrodite posted:I thought Looking Glass asked if they wanted to call the Red Knight in the hospital, but I guess he said 'Red and Night' or something. Red Scare and Sister Night
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Miching Mallecho posted:With a show like this, I want all the episodes NOW Considering it’s Lindelof if Manhattan does appear he will be played by Justin Theroux. Also, I’m not convinced we ever actually see Manhattan. The blue person we see shots of doesn’t glow. Also x2, “think I could lift 200 lbs?” MaoistBanker fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Oct 21, 2019 04:28
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bass reeves was a bad motherfucker
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I liked this. I think it does a good job of playing off the comic without being overly gratuitous and has enough hooks that makes me want to watch more (but I probably would anyway being a fan of the comic, but at least it's good to know it's a pretty nice quality). I wasn't completely blown away but I like the foundation it laid for the future eps. Also like that the good ol' Lindelof whatthefuckness is here in full force.
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Scooter_McCabe posted:Rewatching first episode. Don Johnson's death may not be what it seems. His quote after the weapons release "it's my funeral," that was sneaky. 7th Cavalry was Custer's unit and responsible for wiping out the Indians, so ethnic cleansing. So going to guess that racism and alt right views are threatening to destabilize the world in some fashion. Given the one racist kid talked about "Redfordations" at the being of the episode, I'm going to guess Redford is a liberal president. That liberalism gained a solid footing after Nixon left office and with 30 years of liberal policies a lot of things can get addressed, things that will piss off people that are fellow travellers with the 7th Cav. Also I'm guessing liberalism is starting to wane and that the President being an older guy but powerful is essentially the last stop gap before some a bunch of stupid racists have their way. So something needs to happen that now takes the focus off race and makes alt right views moot. I wouldn't be too hopeful about Don Johnson magically being alive. Between Hollywood Reporter's writeup, Vanity Fair confirming it, and Lindelof previously saying he wanted to do something in the Lost pilot (kill Jack) but the network wouldn't let him, I think it's safe to say Don's dead-dead
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Regina King does fine work here, but god drat every time she raises her voice, I hear nothing but Huey and Riley.
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LesterGroans posted:I've seen them. I believe it's "Redford-ations", as in "Reparations". Hence the specific anger at the kid insulting it, because it's not as broad as "welfare" and more specifically racist to call out.
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Chris James 2 posted:I wouldn't be too hopeful about Don Johnson magically being alive. Between Hollywood Reporter's writeup, Vanity Fair confirming it, and Lindelof previously saying he wanted to do something in the Lost pilot (kill Jack) but the network wouldn't let him, I think it's safe to say Don's dead-dead don is dead dead but his story isn’t over. “Think I could lift 200 lbs?” MaoistBanker fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Ross DaouThot posted:I believe it's "Redford-ations", as in "Reparations". Hence the specific anger at the kid insulting it, because it's not as broad as "welfare" and more specifically racist to call out. Yeah, it is. I just didn't really know how to type it out lol
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Oh hell it popped into my head as I went to sleep. The robot servants, the old lithium cancer causing batteries. Veidt is behind making a robotic Dr. Manhattan who is going to come and enforce a get-a-long gang world order. What makes everyone act nice and be constantly afraid? A big blue god that blasts you with cancer. Veidt has to make a robo-cop Manhattan because the real one is so disconnected from humanity he couldn't give two fucks to save it again. But the fun part is perhaps in making robo-Manhattan the real one notices a distortion blocking his sight into the future like the last time, and that causes him to come and correct the problem with less than stellar results. After all nothing ends.
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LesterGroans posted:Yeah, it is. I just didn't really know how to type it out lol still, such a cool world detail
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Scooter_McCabe posted:Oh hell it popped into my head as I went to sleep. The robot servants, the old lithium cancer causing batteries. Veidt is behind making a robotic Dr. Manhattan who is going to come and enforce a get-a-long gang world order. What makes everyone act nice and be constantly afraid? A big blue god that blasts you with cancer. Veidt has to make a robo-cop Manhattan because the real one is so disconnected from humanity he couldn't give two fucks to save it again. But the fun part is perhaps in making robo-Manhattan the real one notices a distortion blocking his sight into the future like the last time, and that causes him to come and correct the problem with less than stellar results. After all nothing ends. ok, if lindelof does that that's a pretty dope idea
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Ross DaouThot posted:still, such a cool world detail Yeah, it's some fantastic world-building.
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someone with the capability should take a look at the person carrying the "The Future Is Bright" sign in one of those early scenes, if they're doing so many references to the comic book they're not gonna have some nobody holding a sign like that considering who was holding a sign in the original
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Oct 21, 2019 05:32
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Philthy posted:Their video to the police specifically said they were going to make the libs cry. They had a republican in the interrogation chamber asking if he agreed with taxation. He lied and said yes. The question was should everyone pay taxes; I took him more as telling the truth, we should tax the poor, than lying and having the libertarian position
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Thranguy posted:The question was should everyone pay taxes; I took him more as telling the truth, we should tax the poor, than lying and having the libertarian position he lied about everything else why would he be telling the truth about that question
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Mercrom posted:I can't tell if the woke liberal fascist state vs racist rednecks thing is supposed to be satire or not. On one hand it's based on an Alan Moore thing, on the other hand it's the perfect good vs evil template for a liberal audience. There’s going to be a twist along the way
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I want Watchmen universe Alex Jones, who is basically right about everything.
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General Dog posted:I want Watchmen universe Alex Jones, who is basically right about everything. i would not be surprised if something like this appeared, but there will definitely be more to it than that. Like something like the Pizzagate/Jeffery Epstein thing in real life; a bunch of people who are probably right about some sort of large rich person child molestation ring but ascribe it to a crazy liberal conspiracy run by the clintons using witchcraft and poo poo instead of the more realistic scenario, that rich people are all horrible, have the resources to hide what they do, and suffer no consequences for their actions. there'll be some radio host who talks about the attack and how it wasn't really a giant alien squid thing, but it was as a secret conspiracy by Jane Fonda to bring the blacks into power over the whites, instead of the more realistic scenario, that noted rich person Adrian Veidt is horrible, had the resources to hide what he did, and suffered no consequences for his actions. edit: the music in this show is exquisite, both the score and the soundtrack. edit2: lol Jud played Curley in high school that's perfect. also perfect: "American Hero Story" DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Rorschach’s journal as the Turner Diaries of that world sounds like a nice touch. drat, I also thought of Turner Diaries as I was watching this. Pilot rocked, I can’t wait for the next one. I just finished binging through the Leftovers, so I guess Lindelof shows are my new obsession. I should re watch Lost sometime.
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Scooter_McCabe posted:Edit: Listen to the radio right Don Johnson gets killed. They talk about all kinds of liberal policies that these assholes hate and some dystopian Alt Righter mounting a challenge for the White House. The candidate mentioned on the radio is Keene Jr. - almost certainly the son of the Senator Keene mentioned in the comics that authored the bill outlawing masked vigilantes and establishing the Watchmen as a government organization.
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Philthy posted:They had a republican in the interrogation chamber asking if he agreed with taxation. He lied and said yes. The reason he answered yes (this is kind of a spoiler) In the world of the show, President Redford declared all ancestors of slaves in the US no longer have to pay taxes. This is what is known as Redford-ations. So white supremacists do believe that yes, everyone should pay taxes.
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