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AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Ok, so is there like a Complete Idiot's Guide To Society Under Socialism? Because I consider myself to be a smart guy and all the terms in this thread make my head spin.

Maybe this could be an effective propaganda tool. Answer some questions like "Can I choose my job?", "Will my current quality of life be the same?" "Will everyone be paid the same? If so, what is stopping everyone from becoming janitors leaving us without doctors?", Etc.

So far whenever I ask any of these questions I get either a "We don't know", "We will figure it out as we go", or get accused of asking them in bad faith. I don't think that is very productive for trying to sell people on this.

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AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Tias posted:

Still chewing on replies, but this approach has actually been done in depth by libertarian socialists in the so-called Anarchy FAQ, that also deals a lot with socialist questions in general, like private enterprise, property conceptions etc.

Latest edition can be found here: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq

E: Particularly this bit, I think: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq-10-17

Holy crap, maybe I am truly hopeless because this sounds positively exhausting. I feel utterly overwhelmed and panicky at my workplace due to the fact that I'm supposed to pretty much manage myself only to receive a vague mediocre performance review. This sounds like it would extend that to my entire life.

I just don't understand the idea of being responsible for its own sake. If you want me to do something, reward me for it. I don't feel rewarded for my work, I only go because I am paid and I can use that money to avoid doing other things, like cooking or cleaning. I do acknowledge that this is not normal and is likely depression (or maybe because the last time I felt truly happy was when I did well at grade school and everyone would constantly praise me for how smart I was for getting good grades with so little effort) but as it stands right now, this is no way I would like to live. Would most people want this?

AceOfFlames fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Feb 29, 2020

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

OwlFancier posted:

If being given a job in exchange for money is unfulfilling and the opportunity to develop your own meaning is also terrible sounding then I think what you want is either a cult or a dominatrix.

If I believed in God, I'd definitely join a monastery. Unfortunately I think religion is just another way for people to abuse and bully each other.

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