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Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


Sampatrick posted:

I mean, the thesis that nationality is a relatively modern conception has never seemed particularly convincing to me. It's always seemed, much like the Rousseauian idea of societies moving from egalitarian hunter gatherers to authoritarian agrarian societies, to be mostly a thing people say is true but is mostly not the case based on actual evidence. I don't see why modern nationality is in any way distinct from tribal identities that existed beforehand. Maybe I just don't fully understand some essential distinctness between the two, but I've never really understood the idea.

Nationality does differ in some important ways from tribalism, in that the modern concept of geography has changed our concept of tribal membership. The borders of a country being a national boundary, and thusly, as a portion of nationalism is distinct from the basis of a tribal grouping. A nationalist grouping being geographic, and a tribal grouping being familial.

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