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KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

Willie Tomg posted:

The latter. Hegel's idealist (i.e. your brain creates reality, as distinct from the materialist conception where the world structures your thoughts) process stemmed from the idea that interior thought created reality ) through a process that was not so much thesis->antithesis->synthesis (which is a misattribution and also kind of sloppy rhetoric in general), but abstract->negation->concrete

I realize that summarizing Hegel’s philosophy in a few words is a losing battle, but your articulation is more the subjective idealism of Berkeley than it does do justice to the post-Kantian tradition of German idealism. What makes Hegel an idealist is his wager that the discursive process has the capacity to express the totality of reality in logical categories, as these logical categories are what constitutes reality at its foundations.

To Hegel, the only thought that creates reality is God’s.

KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Nov 19, 2019

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KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk
White supremacy is waning, white people going extinct and Trump is a fascist? Pretty intellectually lazy.

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

caps on caps on caps posted:

So you may disagree because capitalism, but everything we know indicates that people care a whole lot. Sociologists would also chuckle at the notion that social hierarchies are voluntary.

To say that it’s not feasible to tackle the concrete social hierarchies of today because there will always be some abstract form of social hierarchy is just a mask of cynicism.

Capitalism is historically unique here because the intersection of technology & current conceptions of property allows for extreme social hierarchies to find objective expression in ever escalating ways. The usage of all-encompassing language like bourgeoise & proletariat is to bring to the forefront of general consciousness a formalization of a caste system that was previously hidden informally, embedded in the everyday 'free' choices we make with the flow of capital. This is why the effort to teach these concepts isn't a form of condescension, as it's a critique of a form of thought as opposed to a lack of intellectual capacity.

We address these objective social hierarchies by dismantling the conditions that allow for extreme resource distributions, which can be done external to and supersedes any individual's psychology, as their preference for relative superiority will take on new meaning as it becomes tethered to something substantial (Leaving aside the questionable extension of the psychological profiles of particular subjects to humanity absolutely).

Obviously, this is easier said than done, as the extant conditions in the US are nowhere near bad enough to build a political movement necessary to achieve something so high-minded, as the inadequacy of the market can be continually obscured by locating problems in the individual through racism/sexism/etc., and exploitation & violence are effectively exported overseas; at least until further catastrophes.

KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jan 2, 2020

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk
How is Trump, with his disorganized collection of white supremacist groups, going to bring about fascism largely without the support of the military, ruling class, and his own political party?

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

Classon Ave. Robot posted:

I think they mean when Biden wins the election and all the liberals to back to brunch he's just going to start mass arresting and disappearing people or during live rounds into the crowd, nobody's going to report on it or give a poo poo lol

suck my woke dick posted:

Yeah pretty much. Decorum worshippers will just fold at the first sign of having to get off their asses and actually fight a power grab.

I don't think that's the case; not the liberals going back to brunch bit (Liberals have scorned left-wing activism since the beginning of time), but the idea that Trump would have free reign to take his right-wing strongman image to new heights is unfounded, as at this point, the benefits no longer outweighs the damage to the U.S.'s stability and image on the world stage as a beacon of freedom & democracy. It was Trump's ability to legitimately win the presidency that was worth anything, and once that's gone, then the headache of dealing with his extracurricular activities becomes entirely unnecessary.

KVeezy3 fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Nov 10, 2020

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KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk
Nah, like Obama said, the greatest danger to democracy is definitely the internet.

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