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Sorry to ask this out of nowhere, but can anyone translate the Japanese words that label the different plot sections? JutAI, KikAI, etc?
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AweStriker posted:PSYNCIN’ IN THE SWaiN (Date->Ota): High average time cost per action (as a sign of Date and Ota’s poor compatibility) Also, all the good timies are picked up by interacting with Iris, indicating that Ota generally can't get anything done (or is uncooperative) unless it's something Iris asks him to do, in which case he'll do anything. Junpei posted:Sorry to ask this out of nowhere, but can anyone translate the Japanese words that label the different plot sections? JutAI, KikAI, etc? So the chapter titles are kinda weird and I'm not even 100% if they're meant to be Japanese (as opposed to Chinese or something). As Japanese, many of them use a bunch of outdated kanji and/or are just plain outdated words. They could also be puns I guess (I mean besides all having "ai" in them). Either way, I had to go look several of them up. shigai = 屍骸, "corpse", usually written 死骸 saikai = 再會, "reunion", usually written 再会 keitai (携帯) = "handheld", but typically is understood to mean "mobile phone" in modern Japanese and usually written ケイタイ then (the TOC has a typo in it, spelling it "kaitai") gyoukai (凝塊) = "clot", as in something congealed like a blood clot (although blood clot uses another kanji entirely) kyuusai (救濟) = "salvation", usually written 救済 shuurai (襲來) = "invasion", usually written 襲来 irai (依頼) = "request" or "entrust", as in to trust someone else with doing something for you dakkai (奪回) = "rescue" kekkai (決潰) = "breach", like a dam breaking kenzai (顕在) = "apparent", as in public, not hidden meikai (溟海) = "deep, dark ocean", but I don't think I've seen this in Japanese as such (there are other words for that concept) - a different word pronounced the same (冥界) means like, the mythological realm of the dead shokubai (觸媒) = "catalyst", usually written 触媒 rihai (離背) = "estrangement" youdai (容態) = "health", like your state of being shougai (傷害) = "wound" seisai (制裁) = "sanction" hiai (悲哀) = "grief" sanpai (参拝) = "shrine visit" jikai (自戒) = "self-caution" or something like that, the second kanji means to like, command or warn or rebuke or scold zugai (頭蓋) = "cranium" shokuzai (贖罪) = "atonement" gumai (愚昧) = "stupid" jukkai (述懐) = "reminisce" kikai (奇怪) = "strange" jutai (受胎) = "conception", as in to become pregnant Hyper Crab Tank fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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New video! This time, we have a more indepth chat with Hitomi and fill in a lot of blanks that have been building up throughout the game.
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I think you did something weird with the audio in this episode, though i can't quite place what. e: Going back and comparing, I think the previous episode (the psync) has that issue to, but the one before that does not. Admiral H. Curtiss fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jul 31, 2020 |
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Oh hello again Traitorous Pewter. Haven't seen you in a while. Shame we have to go back to Traitorous Boss timeline so soon 
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:I think you did something weird with the audio in this episode, though i can't quite place what. Well, those two episodes are one chunk of footage, so I believe whatever it is must've come from me changing computers and having to set up OBS again. I'll have to double check my recording settings before the next session.
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kokkai (告解) = "confession", but it's also pronounced the same as 国会, which is the National Diet of Japan (of which Sejima Sou is a member) - whether that's intentional, I don't know.
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I wonder if Hitomi and Falco bonded over being done horrifically dirty by the Kumakuras.
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So in case someone is wondering, I've been on a bit of a hiatus while I try and figure out this audio issue, because I can't seem to get a grip on it and it's annoying the poo poo out of me. I'll try again tomorrow, maybe something will work then and I can actually record something again.
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New video! I think I managed to get the audio problem fixed. If it is, it apparently was the fact that I was using my Bluetooth earphones instead of my wired set, and that hosed with OBS. Anyway, this time we'll go back to Hitomi's Somnium and see what we missed.
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What kind of animal would Animal Crossing Aiba be? My guess is a bear, because her eyeball form looks like a tardigrade.
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Hmm. A lot of interesting information from Hitomi. Let me draw together a few lines of speculation:Supersonic Shine posted:Well, things just got a whole lot trickier. This might explain why Date can't recall a thing past six years ago: maybe some of the egg white didn't make it inside his new head. Vil posted:- The killer is a third party who swapped with Shoko before the events of the game, and Shoko-in-another-body is most likely dead. I think these are both right. Moreover, I think Saito Sejima is the body-hopping murderer, that Saito was also Rohan's accomplice for the original Cyclops serial killings, and that Date's body was originally Saito's body. In the other branch, Pewter said that Rohan's accomplice was "born a murderous psychopath", which fits with a 12-year-old commiting a murder apparently for no reason. In Iris' Somnium in that branch (which was actually the killer's Somnium) we saw So Sejima with another person (who might have been Manaka Iwai) and we saw the original serial killings. Both of those fit with Saito being the killer, and the reason Date's face showed up in the Somnium is that it was in fact Saito's face. This also explains why the killer told Hitomi to bring Date with her to the abandoned factory: his goal is to get his body back. That same goal underlies the choice of Shoko Nadami as the first victim: the purpose of the killings is to get at Date, and the person closest to Date is Mizuki. Saito arranged for Mizuki to find Shoko's corpse because he wanted Date to take an immediate interest in the case. Date could've ended up in Saito's body if he Psynced with him six years ago, but there's no trace of Saito in the police records we've heard about. According to Pewter, Rohan's accomplice was Falco, not Saito. So how did this Psync happen? My guess would be that the police did investigate Saito Sejima, probably having learned of his involvement from Rohan after he was arrested for the attack on Hitomi. Date went against orders and stayed too long in Somnium, resulting in the switch. When covering up that mess, it was easier to not mention Saito Sejima at all, and So was probably also using his connections to push for this particular resolution. Pointing out Falco as Rohan's accomplice was just an easy and reasonably plausible way to tie up a loose end. Alternatively, So might've persuaded Falco to falsely confess to the killings, in exchange for a promise that he would protect Hitomi and Iris. On another note, it occured to me that in the branch we're going to, Boss might already be dead. We don't actually know whether Boss killed So because she wanted to close the case in a way that didn't expose the secrets of the Psync machine, or if the killer managed to pull off another switch.
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New video! Let's see what that locked path hid away from us.
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Aug 16, 2020 15:30
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The PORNO MAG strikes again. And Boss(?) is its latest victim.
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Jin'ai (塵埃) - dust, dirt. My dictionary suggests it has an alternate poetic use a description of the world as being filled with dusty, drab things. I kinda started posting these because someone asked, but is it too annoying?
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Oh hell no, please keep posting these if you want. I was wondering about their meaning when I was playing through the game myself and seeing them being collected here is great.
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Hyper Crab Tank posted:Jin'ai (塵埃) - dust, dirt. My dictionary suggests it has an alternate poetic use a description of the world as being filled with dusty, drab things. Also a character from Vampires Dawn 2. Hyper Crab Tank posted:I kinda started posting these because someone asked, but is it too annoying? It's not like the thread is bustling with activity anyway. 
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Knowing what we know now about psyncing, I can't help but wonder if someone pulled a quick switch on Boss and took that video. Does the timeframe even allow for that?
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Dang, I didn't manage to catch up with the LP in time to post my biggest theory before it got virtually confirmed. At this point it's pretty obvious that Date is Falco (e.g. Iris's "Uncle") with amnesia, #89 is Saito Sejima, and they're in each other's bodies as the result of a prolonged Psync—but Date's amnesia being the result of a longer-than-six-second Psync mind-meld with the culprit of the case six years ago was the very first theory I came up with as I watched the LP, about as soon as they mentioned the issues with Psyncing for too long, the case six years prior that Date wasn't supposed to know about, and Date's amnesia happening in the same year as the former. From Boss and Pewter's vague description of the dangers of Psyncing for too long, I figured that their memories/personalities bled into each other rather than full-on body switching. Consequently, learning about Falco from Hitomi and seeing Date's odd reaction to Iris on their first meeting (and his memories of Iris as a little kid) made me think that Date was the original Cyclops Killer, but with memories, feelings and personality traits from the detective who did the Psync with him. Pretty close for a theory made so early on, eh?  Dependent theories:
I mostly went along with the ride for the murders themselves, so most of my theories were small and quickly proven or disproven, but I do have one that's probably going to be confirmed once we get back to that locked branch: the victims have their left eyes removed because it's a side-effect of using the prototype Psync machine. Iris' left eye was suddenly missing after Date's last Psync with her during the Naix route—I remembered Pewter's (or was it Aiba's?) explanation of how the Psync machine connects to the people in the machine through nanothreads going into their eyeballs, and, well...unless somebody somehow pulled her eye out of its socket during the Psync, without interrupting it, the most plausible explanation is that a flaw in the prototype causes the Psyncee's left eye to get destroyed during the Psync process. Dependent theories:
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Bloody Emissary posted:Dang, I didn't manage to catch up with the LP in time to post my biggest theory before it got virtually confirmed. I had the exact same theory after Iris branch  We saw how Date got dragged more and more into Iris delusions in a positive feedback loop when he believed her, so I expected that even regular syncing can have problems with personality bleed-throughs, let alone staying past the limit. So I assumed that Date's lack of memories was due to a Psync that's gone wrong. In Mizuki's branch we both know that So has enough power to order the police and refers to Date as his son so So having enough power to cover up the original murders and what happened to Date afterwards is within his power. quote:Dependent theories: I think that Renju is already dead at the beginning of the story, if the killer always switches a body and then kills it to hide his secret then Renju was already taken over by Saito in either branch. The question is why he tried to get #89 out of prison, but I assume it's because he couldn't switch with Iris. Since in Iris' branch we know that Iris ditched 'Renju' rather than get in the old warehouse. Agreed on the brain medication. quote:I mostly went along with the ride for the murders themselves, so most of my theories were small and quickly proven or disproven, but I do have one that's probably going to be confirmed once we get back to that locked branch: the victims have their left eyes removed because it's a side-effect of using the prototype Psync machine. Iris' left eye was suddenly missing after Date's last Psync with her during the Naix route—I remembered Pewter's (or was it Aiba's?) explanation of how the Psync machine connects to the people in the machine through nanothreads going into their eyeballs, and, well...unless somebody somehow pulled her eye out of its socket during the Psync, without interrupting it, the most plausible explanation is that a flaw in the prototype causes the Psyncee's left eye to get destroyed during the Psync process. Plausible, especially since we know the person who carved the eyes was Rohan rather than Saito. So Saito has no real reason to carve out the eyes. quote:Dependent theories: On the third bullet point, we saw Hitomi meeting with So in the Iris dead end branch, and since 'Renju' was still alive at that branch I'm pretty sure it was Hitomi herself. Also in general Saito appears to try to get his original body back and tries to work a chain to make him Psync with Date (see Boss in the current route), So has power over the police and Iris is So's daughter so Saito probably tries to possess her to get at So probably*. But in Iris branch Date is already attached to Iris and Saito can leverage Date's attachment to lead him to where he could take over his body and kill him (And in the Iris branch, Pewter is an unwitting dupe who tries to help his lover that was already killed). One problem that I think of is that why did everything start to happen now and why was Saito outside prison since there's no way Shoko could psync with #89/Falco while he was in prison. My theory is that Rohan had Saito's will, Rohan and Saito were apparently pretty tight and that Shoko had connections to the Kumakura. If Rohan was the one who carried Saito's mind and then switched with Shoko then it would make sense for him to start outside prison and have the ability to actually do stuff. It also makes #89/Falco claim that he knows who the killer is ring true because if he spoke to Shoko after Saito possessed her he knew that the killer was body-switching around and since we saw Boss in his somnium I'd guess that he was also a psyncer (and we know that Date got his memories scrambled with #89/Falco, so #89/Falco should know it too). The big hole in this theory is that #89 is almost certainly in his original body (since his Somnium fitted perfectly), so who is Date? And where is Rohan's mind? * Saito also appears to have a tendency to incriminate his new body and then needing to quickly switch to a new one in Mizuki's branch. He switched to Iris and then was quickly implicated at the murder of Renju, then he switched to So but got wounded during his grandstanding so he needed to quickly switch bodies again. I'd guess that's why So's body was in pieces, to hide the fact that he had a leg wound.
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SITB posted:The big hole in this theory is that #89 is almost certainly in his original body (since his Somnium fitted perfectly), so who is Date? And where is Rohan's mind? In #89's Somnium, all of Falco's past is written down in books (which we're supposed to destroy to progress, natch) and not visually or metaphorically experienced like in other Somniums. The green curtain also obscures Falco until Rohan comes bursting into the room (I double-checked this; interestingly, the curtain disappears off-screen). I'm positive #89 is somebody other than Falco. I thought he was Saito at first, but looking back through that Somnium...maybe he's Rohan? As I said, Falco only becomes visible once Rohan enters the room, plus the big red eye outside the window belongs to Rohan, judging by the wrinkles. Hmm... Unrelatedly, another small detail that bugged me since it appeared: the video in serial-killer-"Iris"'s Somnium that showed a blue figure kissing So. The body shown as the camera pans up to So's face is clearly female. When we went through the other branch of that Somnium, I noticed that it was the body of the fourth victim of the Cyclops Serial Killings—the only one we see in that branch as a Somnium reenactment and not a video on a TV screen. We know now that the one actually doing the killings was Saito, and Rohan just took the eyes out of the corpses afterwards. So the red figure watching the murders would be Rohan and the blue figure would be Saito...why is not-Iris' memory of the fourth victim so much clearer than the others, and why was her body combined with So's face in the other branch? I can't see any reason why Rohan would make that association, but Saito overlaying the face of his father on one of his victims seems more plausible, so is not-Iris actually Saito?
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Bloody Emissary posted:In #89's Somnium, all of Falco's past is written down in books (which we're supposed to destroy to progress, natch) and not visually or metaphorically experienced like in other Somniums. The green curtain also obscures Falco until Rohan comes bursting into the room (I double-checked this; interestingly, the curtain disappears off-screen). I'm positive #89 is somebody other than Falco. I thought he was Saito at first, but looking back through that Somnium...maybe he's Rohan? As I said, Falco only becomes visible once Rohan enters the room, plus the big red eye outside the window belongs to Rohan, judging by the wrinkles. Hmm... An interesting detail here is that if Date is indeed Falco, he might have supplied some of the details in the Somnium. Date has amnesia, but he's remembered bits and pieces of his past occasionally. That might account for some of the oddities. quote:Unrelatedly, another small detail that bugged me since it appeared: the video in serial-killer-"Iris"'s Somnium that showed a blue figure kissing So. The body shown as the camera pans up to So's face is clearly female. When we went through the other branch of that Somnium, I noticed that it was the body of the fourth victim of the Cyclops Serial Killings—the only one we see in that branch as a Somnium reenactment and not a video on a TV screen. We know now that the one actually doing the killings was Saito, and Rohan just took the eyes out of the corpses afterwards. So the red figure watching the murders would be Rohan and the blue figure would be Saito...why is not-Iris' memory of the fourth victim so much clearer than the others, and why was her body combined with So's face in the other branch? I can't see any reason why Rohan would make that association, but Saito overlaying the face of his father on one of his victims seems more plausible, so is not-Iris actually Saito? Are you sure those two are the same woman? Supposing not-Iris is Saito, the first branch we saw could be showing his childhood. The way to progress in that branch was to violently destroy childish drawings of animals, which could correspond to Saito showing early tendencies to violence by harming or killing actual animals. The culmination of that development would be his murder of Manaka Iwai at the age of 12, and accordingly the memory we recover at the end is Manaka kissing So. Bloody Emissary posted:I do have one that's probably going to be confirmed once we get back to that locked branch: the victims have their left eyes removed because it's a side-effect of using the prototype Psync machine. Iris' left eye was suddenly missing after Date's last Psync with her during the Naix route. I remembered Pewter's (or was it Aiba's?) explanation of how the Psync machine connects to the people in the machine through nanothreads going into their eyeballs, and, well...unless somebody somehow pulled her eye out of its socket during the Psync, without interrupting it, the most plausible explanation is that a flaw in the prototype causes the Psyncee's left eye to get destroyed during the Psync process. Oh, good catch. I've been thinking along the same lines, but couldn't figure out how the machine could cause physical damage like that. Thanks for the reminder about the connection through the eye. This all fits together remarkably well, now. Suppose that Date is Falco, #89 is Rohan and the body-hopping killer is Saito. That would mean that Falco was an undercover police agent in the Kumakuras during Rohan's time. The recounting of Falco's backstory we get from #89 does not mention this, but that's because Rohan is telling the story, and he never learned that Falco was an agent. Thus he's playing the character of Falco to the best of his ability, but his story doesn't quite fit because he's missing a critical piece of information. We can also guess more precisely how Date lost his eye and his memory. The investigation six years ago started with the arrest of Rohan, as far as we know. Being a Yakuza boss, he might've been wanted for any number of reasons. But if the police connected him to the Cyclops killings, they would also be led towards Saito Sejima and his role in the killings. To protect his son, So Sejima used his influence to shut down the investigation into Saito. Date/Falco reacted to this by going renegade: he stole the prototype Psync machine and kidnapped Saito in an attempt to find clear evidence of his involvement. But he stayed too long in Somnium, because nobody had told him the reason for the time limit. That left him in Saito's body with one eye missing, and Saito in Falco's body. Not sure how we get from here to Rohan being in Falco's body, but the rest seems to fit.
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Tau Wedel posted:Are you sure those two are the same woman? Supposing not-Iris is Saito, the first branch we saw could be showing his childhood. The way to progress in that branch was to violently destroy childish drawings of animals, which could correspond to Saito showing early tendencies to violence by harming or killing actual animals. The culmination of that development would be his murder of Manaka Iwai at the age of 12, and accordingly the memory we recover at the end is Manaka kissing So. Positive; they have the same outfit. Check PSYNCIN' IN THE VaiN Part 1 at 13:40 and Part 2 at 12:03.
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Bloody Emissary posted:Unrelatedly, another small detail that bugged me since it appeared: the video in serial-killer-"Iris"'s Somnium that showed a blue figure kissing So. The body shown as the camera pans up to So's face is clearly female. When we went through the other branch of that Somnium, I noticed that it was the body of the fourth victim of the Cyclops Serial Killings—the only one we see in that branch as a Somnium reenactment and not a video on a TV screen. We know now that the one actually doing the killings was Saito, and Rohan just took the eyes out of the corpses afterwards. So the red figure watching the murders would be Rohan and the blue figure would be Saito...why is not-Iris' memory of the fourth victim so much clearer than the others, and why was her body combined with So's face in the other branch? I can't see any reason why Rohan would make that association, but Saito overlaying the face of his father on one of his victims seems more plausible, so is not-Iris actually Saito? If we take Pewter's assertion that Saito was only able to feel satisfaction by killing exceedingly literally, it may be a representation of Saito feeling 'love' by killing one of the victims. The mashing of So's face and kissing is an artifact of the fact that Saito just mashed together parental love and lust because he never felt either. It's a pretty big stretch admittedly.
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Bloody Emissary posted:Positive; they have the same outfit. Check PSYNCIN' IN THE VaiN Part 1 at 13:40 and Part 2 at 12:03. Huh, so they do. Interesting, though I can't think of what it might mean (other than not-Iris likely being Saito, as you said). Have we heard anything about the victims of the original Cyclops killings? I remember Boss and Pewter describing the overall pattern, but I don't think anything's been mentioned about the individual victims.
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Tau Wedel posted:Date/Falco reacted to this by going renegade: he stole the prototype Psync machine and kidnapped Saito in an attempt to find clear evidence of his involvement. But he stayed too long in Somnium, because nobody had told him the reason for the time limit. That left him in Saito's body with one eye missing, and Saito in Falco's body. Not sure how we get from here to Rohan being in Falco's body, but the rest seems to fit. That's the bit that's giving me the most trouble, yeah. It's probably related to Rohan's suicide one year ago and possibly his hospitalization six years ago (post-Psync amnesia?). The former detail hasn't been connected to anything else in the plot yet...although I can't imagine why there would be a five-year gap between that and #89 getting put in jail. If Rohan switched bodies with someone else back then, why wait five years before getting rid of the person who was moved into his body? SITB posted:If we take Pewter's assertion that Saito was only able to feel satisfaction by killing exceedingly literally, it may be a representation of Saito feeling 'love' by killing one of the victims. The mashing of So's face and kissing is an artifact of the fact that Saito just mashed together parental love and lust because he never felt either. That was my thinking, although I think Pewter might have said that Saito merely got an endorphin high from murder, not a dose of oxytocin. It's not a great explanation, but I can't think of a better one.  Tau Wedel posted:Huh, so they do. Interesting, though I can't think of what it might mean (other than not-Iris likely being Saito, as you said). Have we heard anything about the victims of the original Cyclops killings? I remember Boss and Pewter describing the overall pattern, but I don't think anything's been mentioned about the individual victims. I don't think so, no. The fourth murder might be exceptional in some way, though, since all the other victims were only shown as blank figures with a photo attached to their face...and if there was something unusual about it, that might be how the investigators linked Saito and Rohan to the crimes.
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Quick update on the update: I've now recorded everything up to the true ending. The only thing that remains is a few odds and ends that won't make for more than 15 minutes of video, and from then on it'll be all editing and subtitling. Which means that barring total disaster, the Crash Counter will finalize at... 4. The exact number it was at when I started the guessing contest. loving brilliant. By extension, that means our winner is: booksnake posted:Agreed on best character. Boss comes very close, though. ...I wonder if they're even still reading the thread.
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The crash counter winner is 225% off 
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New video! ...I don't like this Somnium.
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Oh, Date, no. We're in for some serious poo poo the next time this route continues.
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I like puzzles, so I like this somnium  . At the very least, it's less annoying than Hitomi's "I can't see poo poo" or 89's "GREEEEEEEENS".And you don't even show off the entrance door, with all choices needing 999 seconds and having x999 timies.
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Navigating the doors doesn't seem so bad. The pairs are clearly marked (A to A', B to B', etc.) so there's no trial-and-error involved, plus you can view the other floors on the map. While it undoubtedly involves a lot of flipping back and forth on the map page, finding the right path shouldn't require a lot of redos.
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Bloody Emissary posted:Navigating the doors doesn't seem so bad. The pairs are clearly marked (A to A', B to B', etc.) so there's no trial-and-error involved, plus you can view the other floors on the map. While it undoubtedly involves a lot of flipping back and forth on the map page, finding the right path shouldn't require a lot of redos. You'd think so! And yet. I also hated this Somnium.
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It does seem kinda designed to waste your time with repeated map checking and repeatedly having to go through doors, each having its own mini-scene. And since the timing seems strict you don't even get the ability to poke around experimentally and see what happens (and get goofy dialogue).
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I kinda liked this Somnium, I was up for one that pushed you to really min-max your time and the first time I got to the end I was down to 10 seconds or so with people yelling "almost out of time!" which felt very appropriate for its place in the story. That said, this Somnium also crashed on me twice, both times right before the end, extremely not fun.
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1234567890num posted:I like puzzles, so I like this somnium Well, like I said, I was just straight following a guide. Bloody Emissary posted:Navigating the doors doesn't seem so bad. The pairs are clearly marked (A to A', B to B', etc.) so there's no trial-and-error involved, plus you can view the other floors on the map. While it undoubtedly involves a lot of flipping back and forth on the map page, finding the right path shouldn't require a lot of redos. I think what also hurts the Somnium for me is that a lot of the dreamlike mystery that you have in the different ones isn't really there. You're just in a warehouse. There's magic doors, but all they do is throw you out in a different part of the warehouse. There's a weird shrinking and expanding walkway, and all it does is move a bit over and let you continue moving in the warehouse. Compare that to, like, Mizuki's, or So's, or Iris's different Somnia... there's just so much more going on than just "a warehouse with a bit of weird stuff". Even Ota's, which ostensibly is also just "a warehouse", has a lot more interesting stuff going on with Aiba being tiny, Ota playing hero and all that. I feel like the information they wanted to convey took precedence over an interesting environment, and I think that really hurt it in my eyes.
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Yeah, this somnium is the least dream-like, but in a way that reinforces its uniqueness By the way, I heard in the PS4 version saving here causes corrupted save files, kinda like PEC in VLR for 3DS. That's another mark against its favor  SITB posted:It does seem kinda designed to waste your time with repeated map checking and repeatedly having to go through doors, each having its own mini-scene. And since the timing seems strict you don't even get the ability to poke around experimentally and see what happens (and get goofy dialogue). The timing isn't actually strict here, provided you use the timies on the 999 second actions. There's plenty of time to do random stuff. That said, some of the wrong actions also require 999 seconds (like other actions for the ladder), so in that way it is really strict. You do have a leeway of one action though (since final actions can go past the time limit). 1234567890num fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Aug 27, 2020 |
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Aug 27, 2020 18:41
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Wow, starting right off with a 10x timie. Rude. Gameplay issues aside, I do like how adversarial this Somnium is. With pathways connecting in confusing and unpredictable ways and doors that require enormous effort to open, it really feels like the killer is doing their very best to prevent Date from discovering the truth. And the toppling line of mannequins at the end is a nice thematic detail.
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Aug 29, 2020 13:09
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New video! It's time for the game to talk. And it has a lot to say.
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I don't think they use the kanji in the titles in Japanese, so I'm not sure which it would be, but I got two results for Ihai: "ashes of the deceased, remains from cremation" and "violation, transgression".
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