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Glad to see this start up. I attempted to play this game as a child, got nowhere really, then came back and abused save states on the 3DS VC. I used a pretty static deck because, well, the early TCG is pretty broken around certain deck types. Still, it was fun and a shame the sequel never came here. And it's even more of a shame they just never did one of these games again. There is a single player component of the official TCG Online but it's not quite the same and so far as I know hasn't been updated in years. Also bit of a crapshoot. I don't think the TCG Online is even out in Japan and the ability to buy packs within the client (rather than with the free coins or booster pack codes) is still in beta in canada. For years.
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I feel like Charizard, while probably the worst example, is a good showcase of an issue that's plagued the game since...wwell, always, but has only gotten worse over time. The evolution gimmick of the game is pretty intensive and the payoff is not necessarily better at all. There';s usually a suite of single stage Basics that take less deck space, get up faster and do better energy:damage:turn ratios while tytpically having more HP. Usually if you see evolutions, it'll be a few stage 1s to help support the better pokemon while a stage 2 will probably be a 2/2/1 one off (or whatever) to help support another pokemon (Venusaur/Exeggutor comes to mind immediately). Thankfully the cpus are dummies with purposely gimmicky decks so you can use about anything you want here but it's never not been A Thing in the game and it's even worse when we have oh say I don't know let me just dig around a few years ago  Like is it necessarily fair to compare one of the best EXes in the game as a pillar to the problems with the TCG? Probably not. But yet, here I am, 7 years later, still mad. Also a few fun facts: Hitmonchan was one of the "secret rare" reprints back in Platinum  Unlike the later anniversary set (evolutions) that reprinted and updated a ton of different Base Set cards, it wasn't changed at all Charizard was also reprinted, with new artwork by the same artist   But he was of course reprinted in the Evolutions set, this time given a slight touch up for hte modern era. I feel like you can kind of tell the level of power creep that happened in the intervening like 20 years helixchamber had a whole article on beta pokemon cards (https://helixchamber.com/2019/04/08/proto-tcg/ we've seen most of these by now) and i'll point out that Porygon was...always bad, sadly  60 HP originally and Converstion 2 was Tri Attack. Flip two (not three...) coins, 10x each. Evolutions decided to just merge the 2 effects and give it 60 HP. Sure
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FoolyCharged posted:Yes. If you go first it's only 60 damage on turn 2. See? Balanced. and they ketp reprinting this drat card so it never left rotation for years And I'm pretty sure when it did we got  The same attack but hey now you can't do SE damage then again  I haven't kept up with the meta in SM era so maybe this isn't as obnoxious as it was during the time I actively played, but causally Mewtwo was a nightmare and I'm pretty sure a number of competitive decks had it at least as a one-off
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Oct 27, 2019 17:29
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Yeah GX attacks are the one-move-per game super attack. Gotta choose carefully when and how you use it. Though I think there was some Item or Power that let you use two in a game. They are...wildly all over the place in terms of usefulness. Like Tapu Cure is pretty cool, but Mewtwo GX is just dealing 200 damage. Zoroark GX lets you use another opponent's attack (ignoring cost beyond the 2 dark to use the GX move). Promos in particular tend to have pretty poo poo GX moves. But most are pretty interesting. Oh but speaking of: remember the Computer Search that crosspiece is using in a few decks? Discard 2 cards and search out any card from your deck? That was brought back years later in the Gen 5 era with "Ace Specs"  These go beyond once per game, you can only have one Ace Spec in your deck. So not, say, 1 Computer Search, 1 Ice WAll, 1 Gold Potion etc in your deck. Just one, single ace spec.
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Oct 27, 2019 22:03
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Also set rotation is good, imo. Even ignoring power creep making old cards irrelevant, it's a good way to shuffle out the big powerful but not explicitly broken to be banned cards. & now new players can just focus on getting the X number of sets cards. That said if you have a bunch of older cards there is the "Expanded" ruleset. It was introduced in 2014 and allows for any cards made since Black & White to be legal. It's ruleset that sees use in actual tournaments. the TCG Online allows you to play in any of Standard, Expanded or Unlimited (literally everything not on the universal ban list is legal). Though, to use older stuff (ESPECIALY the stuff earlier than BW) there you need to buy the packs and such with the free currency.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Big numbers = best card, don't @ me. do i have the charizard for you 
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anilEhilated posted:What's that weakness, Fairy? I quit during Gen 2 so it's kind of interesting to see where the game went afterwards. Yeah. Dragon Type was finally introduced towards the end of Gen 5 (with the gimmick of: it doesnt have its own energy & always takes 2 different types) and Fairy was introduced with the first XY set. They also introduced vanilla, non-special Dark & Steel energy during gen 4's TCG
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Carbon dioxide posted:
The TCG is a little odd in places. Electric is "Lightning", Steel is "Metal", Dark is "Darkness". It isn't even a translation issue, either, japan calls the game type Electric and the TCG type Lightning too. And of course, instead of calling it "Normal", we have Colorless even though none of hte other types use color terminology. Not like it'd be confusing, even, Grass (& later, Poison) is used for Poison, Water is used for Ice, Fighting for Rock and Ground, etc
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Wait, why does the TCG call it Lightning type while literally all other media calls it Electric?
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I know it's been said before, but the game versions of the card artwork is really stellar. They manage to bring over the fairly detailed and colorful artwork without being all muddy and hard to make out. Things like that Lickitung in particular stand out. I feel like if there was a GBA game it'd be much more "we just digitized this" feeling and any DS titles would literally be the cards, if a little jaggier because of DS resolution and scaling. It's a very of-the-era kind of thing, adds a lot of charm to the game. ...actually there was a TCG game on the DS but it was purely as tutorial game that came with a special starter set in Japan 
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LiefKatano posted:why is Ronald the only one with a real life American card back in his art when everyone else has a more stylized version of the Japanese back if I had to guess, most of the official artwork never made it to America, and the ones that did had slight alterations. I have the Prime guide that I pulled out and they did edit the professor's heashot to use the correct card, and a headshot of the player holding a card though Prima doesn't have artwork of any other characters holding cards. Though they did miss one, a giant tutorial image, that didn't alter the cardbacks. Anyway if I had to guess Ronald probably had some featured images at some point, for nintendo power probably, so they altered the card backing. But the others didn't
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Crosspeice posted:
oh to be clear it didn't. The priam guide has no full body artwork. When I say head shots I mean literally just talking heads. The closest exceptions in the prima guide are: -there's an image of the player and some scientist or ronald fighting, to show how the table is set up. This one forgot ot edit the image and actualyl isnt on bulbapedia -a couple of different heads of hte professor with the arcd on his head edited -player showing some different expressions, one of them is holding an edited card -ronald, being smug in his headshots. -an imagine (in a totally different style, but not looking bad) of goldeen fighting machop -another image of a seaking fighting machop -seaking getting bit by a raticate -shocked rattata I still have the old manual and flipping through it seems that's where all the art originates. Though they did edit the table layout this time. There's several bust shots of Ronald with a Pikachu, but no full body shot. that's why I'm assuming a Nintendo Power guide mightve been different
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BlackPersona posted:I grew up with TCG1, so all these new or updated images for this very familiar game is really making me flip out. Like what the heck is that Squirtle and Wartortle art?? If you think the Intro Set has some wacky art wait until we see some of the Vending Machine cards in full
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Chamale posted:Poor Kadabra. Uri Geller, the spoon-bending "psychic" fraud, threatened to sue over Kadabra's design and as a result there have been no new Kadabra cards for over a decade. I wonder what the specifics to this whole thing was, exactly. It's basically banned from the card game, it hasn't shown up in the anime outside of a cameo in a World of Pokemon segment (even porygon gets in those) and it apparently missed out on a Rnager game that otherwise had Abra & Alakazam but it still shows up everywhere else. It even got some merch semi-recently. Even Jynx didn't get this soft-banned.
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Huh, that Mysterious Fossil has entirely different artwork, that's a bit weird for this game
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Man there's a surprising amount goign on in this casino, huh? TCG 2 makes TCG1 just feel less like a first game and more like a beta run, honestly, and we're not even in the second half of the game
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Mr. Fuji lets you keep the cards attached to the (benched only) pokemon since it sends everything to the deck, Scoop Up lets yo ugrab any pokemon but you have to discard the cards attached, including evolutions since it specifies "basic" Seems like the intent is you'd use it if you're worried about losing some energy, items or evolutionary stages. Since her whole shtick is limited energy to accomodate her big bench & Vileplume beater, makes sense to give her the "safer" alternative.
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Jan 11, 2020 04:25
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That Hypno gimmick is really cool and they should use it again in the modern era
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Feb 15, 2020 23:14
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Releasing a promo version of a released card with just a Sugimori artwork on it may in fact be the worst type of promo, even ignoring how absolutely aful dark persian is to play to begin with.
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I took it all as "they're CUH-RAZY" because they're in, like, a lava cavern base and talking about cooking while the other island hangs out at like a pool and just plays card games like normal people
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Mraagvpeine posted:I heard there's a real world worldwide TCG tournament. Maybe you can use the deck of the first winner or something. Yeah it runs alongside VGC every year, but the official worlds tournies didnt happen until the e reader sets in 2002 Though its not like no one played competitively https://jklaczpokemon.wordpress.com/2000-base-team-rocket/ of course
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The king's artwork looks like a completely different character from what his portrait shows
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This was fun, thank you. I always wondered about the second game and it was cool to see all the big content. I am shocked there wasn't a coin tied to the Sealed Fortress. Looking forward to black & White dungeon cousin posted:If you guys are interested in the history of the Pokemon TCG in Japan and how it came out there's this series detailing the history of TCGs in Japan. The first seven videos are just about Pokemon. It's pretty interesting. also this IS pretty neat, thanks for sharing
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